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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2007, 09:41:38 AM »
im sorry loco but everything your saying sounds like a man not a GOD. jealous? vengeful? has wants? the god your describing sounds like a human. and GOD is not a human, the bible is doing a good job at humanizing god.

im sorry but PURE LOVE doesnt condem or even judge if he is pure love. everything your saying is contradictory. how can pure love have anger? a negative emotion. and how can god even be emotional? that is a human aspect. there are many more things but i will stop there.

you'd have to throw reason out the door to beleive the above.

It's okay.   ;D

See, that is exactly what I'm trying to show with this thread, that God, though not a human, is a very personable God.  It's not that we are making him like us.  God made us like Him:

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness"

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil."

You are correct.  God is not a human, but He is a person.  God is spirit, and He does have emotions.  Why is that bad?  Are you saying that God should not have emotions or are you saying that He should, but just not negative emotions?  I just explained that jealousy in itself is not a negative emotion.  Anger in itself is not a negative emotion either.  Why you get jealous and why you get angry, and what you do with your jealousy and what you do with your anger is what makes the difference.

I honestly don't see the contradiction.  Can you not have a loving judge?  Is tolerance of crime a virtue?  Oh, and God is not vengeful.

I guess you are as confused about what I see as I am confused about what you see.  I really don't see the contradiction or the problem.  Do you have kids?  Do you love them?  Do you not correct and punish them?  Do you spoil them rotten and let them do as they please, and give them every single thing they want?

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2007, 09:44:39 AM »
god cant be perfect and jealous. that indicates that he is missing something, somehting to be jealous of. a want or need .


again this is illogical. the bible is wrong.


god will not punish you, he cant, hes pure love remember. how can pure love do something negative? he cant, that is unless that isnt god.

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2007, 09:46:16 AM »
i would also agree with OZMO. i know god through reason, soul and logic. he gave me those things to use(not really). GOD can be found within and without. theres alot more bullshit to plough through without though.

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2007, 09:52:00 AM »
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Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness"

I've always found that contradicting to the one GOD mantra preached through out the BIBLE.

shouldn't he have said:

I will make man in my image in my likeness.

In that sentence he suggests he had help in making man.....So angels have the power to create?  A power only GOd is supposed to have?

So then Satan can create men too?


hmmmmmmm

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2007, 09:53:09 AM »
No, what i was saying was those people he killed were being insecure.

So you can't answer can you?  You can't explain this hypocritical behavior?  You just say i'm insulting GOD?

See that's the difference here loco, with all due respect to you, and i mean it, I don't know GOD from the words in the Bible,  i know GOD from my heart and my relationship with him and my soul.  Not solely from some book. 

And because i fear him....i'm supposed to not question and be obedient?  Control through fear?  com on dude.
 

Yeah,  GOD is setting a great example there isn't he?  kind of contradicts Jesus's teaching doesn't it?

DO AS I SAY OR I WILL KILL YOU.  WORSHIP ME OR I WILL KILL YOU.   yeah great stuff.  I'm going to apply that to regular life because this is the example GOD has set for me, so when you read in the paper next week about some BIBLE THUMPING SELF RIGHTEOUS religious zealot who killed 3 people in a subway because they wouldn't accept Jesus as their savior you'll know who it is and you'll i'll have a place in heaven!

OH,  so we are justified in killing anyone who is not Christian?  I'm buying a machine gun right now and killing anyone not in church this Sunday!  GOD has set the example for me to follow.  FEAR HIM!

GOD allows sins to go unpunished all the time dude, what world do you live in?  you atone for your sins when you die.

Yeah i can't see that, the blood of 3000 people who didn't do what god said to do is blocking my vision and i'm confused.  I'm getting my gun and killing some sinners.   ::)

the righteous shall inherit the earth.......FEAR GOD!

 

Ozmo,
I respect your beliefs.  If I ask you questions about your beliefs is because I am really trying to understand, not to mock you or anything like that.

It does not make me angry that you insult my God.  I was saying that for your own good.  He loves you and protects you even if you don't believe in Him, and God is worthy of your respect and reverence.

You do not have to exaggerate to make your point.  "KILL ALL NON-CHRISTIANS"?  Come on, you know Christianity is not a religion of violence.  I'll prove it to you.  See how Christianity is attacked and mocked daily in the media, and even on this board.  We Christians just sit here and take it, without retaliating, without threatening, without "KILLING".  You can't do that with certain other religions, can you?  Insulting and mocking certain other religions equates to putting a bounty on your own head.  

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2007, 09:54:26 AM »
I've always found that contradicting to the one GOD mantra preached through out the BIBLE.

shouldn't he have said:

I will make man in my image in my likeness.

In that sentence he suggests he had help in making man.....So angels have the power to create?  A power only GOd is supposed to have?

So then Satan can create men too?


hmmmmmmm

God is one in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2007, 10:00:02 AM »
Ozmo,
I respect your beliefs.  If I ask you questions about your beliefs is because I am really trying to understand, not to mock you or anything like that.

It does not make me angry that you insult my God.  I was saying that for your own good.  He loves you and protects you even if you don't believe in Him, and God is worthy of your respect and reverence.

You do not have to exaggerate to make your point.  "KILL ALL NON-CHRISTIANS"?  Come on, you know Christianity is not a religion of violence.  I'll prove it to you.  See how Christianity is attacked and mocked daily in the media, and even on this board.  We Christians just sit here and take it, without retaliating, without threatening, without "KILLING".  You can't do that with certain other religions, can you?  Insulting and mocking certain other religions equates to putting a bounty on your own head. 

I'm not mocking them, i'm only pointing out that condemning others based on your religion is wrong.

Plus you haven't addressed the points, i made about fear based control and killing people.   In today's age, moses would be up for war crimes.

Loco,  i have the up most respect for your commitment to your faith.   I was just drama-tizing my points.

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2007, 10:11:20 AM »
I'm not mocking them, i'm only pointing out that condemning others based on your religion is wrong.

Plus you haven't addressed the points, i made about fear based control and killing people.   In today's age, moses would be up for war crimes.

Loco,  i have the up most respect for your commitment to your faith.   I was just drama-tizing my points.

Thanks Ozmo!  I wasn't sure if you were angry and I wanted you to calm down before addressing your points.

Plus you haven't addressed the points, i made about fear based control and killing people.   In today's age, moses would be up for war crimes.

Perhaps you are correct.  And this takes us to the subject of "Dispensations", something I will explain in a new thread, but not today.  That will address your points.

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Re: God's Attributes according to the Bible
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2007, 10:22:52 AM »
god cant be perfect and jealous. that indicates that he is missing something, somehting to be jealous of. a want or need .

God is jealous only of what is His, worship, praise and service.  Look at the alternative of those times.  Other religions of the time said their gods required human sacrifice, orgies, etc.  They feared the rain, they feared the sun, the moon, etc.  God wanted to pull humanity out of that.  God is not missing anything, and God needs nothing. 

He doesn't even need our worship and praise.  We owe it to Him and it is for our own benefit.  We will always worship or praise something or someone, movie stars, pro athletes, famous scientists, millionaires, etc.  As we worship and praise these people, in the back of our heads we want to be in their shoes, we want to be them, we want to become more like them. 

The more we worship, praise and serve God, the more we become like Him, just, loving, slow to anger, etc.  God needs nothing from us.  We need God

again this is illogical. the bible is wrong.

I know you believe that the Bible is wrong, but I believe that it is right and that it is the word of God.

god will not punish you, he cant, hes pure love remember. how can pure love do something negative? he cant, that is unless that isnt god.

Why not?  I don't have a problem with that.

Hebrews 12:6
"because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son"