Author Topic: Bill Grant @ 60 years young (Read 14277 times)

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 09, 2007, 06:08:50 AM »

Quote from: LoveTheSport on March 09, 2007, 06:03:38 AM

chest/back/shoulders is one hell of a workout, if he's doing 3 exercises at 4 sets per exercise. I was pretty tired doing back after hitting chest.

true but you can get your body used to it if you increase volume gradually. also not sure he does 3 exercises....maybe only 2 per body part.

remember he is working bodyparts twice a week. also he used lots of super sets.

GoneAway · « **Reply #51 on:** March 09, 2007, 06:22:23 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on March 09, 2007, 06:08:50 AM

true but you can get your body used to it if you increase volume gradually. also not sure he does 3 exercises....maybe only 2 per body part.

remember he is working bodyparts twice a week. also he used lots of super sets.

Supersetting would make it worse. Just gets you tired more quickly. But I guess if it works for him, that's cool. He probably knows exactly what to do to grow.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 09, 2007, 06:43:53 AM »

Bill looks incredible!

Good genetics + proper eating + years of lifting to build a solid base + perhaps a bit of gear could definitely equate to that physique. I doubt he is on high amounts of anything. Test replacement at his age is safe in low dosages. You don't see any bloating, just hard earned lean muscle.

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #53 on:** March 09, 2007, 07:00:16 AM »

Ohhhh brother give me a fuggin' break! This guy looks every inch as big at 60 as he did when he was 30 and he "may" be taking "hrt"? If you truly believe that then you should go to Betty Ford and get off the crack you are on! I'm sure his diet is on, i'm sure his genetics are superior, i'm sure after 40 yrs of training he knows what he's doing but jesus fellas own up to it! I'm also sure that Cormiers, Levrones, Arnolds and any other pro who came truly off's genetics are every bit as good as his! The guy is on a good amount of gear to look what he looked like 30 yrs ago when guys were gobbling 20-30 dbol (not mgs) a day along with tons of deca & primo. It's no secret what they took back then, plain jane dbol/deca cycles and primo to harden up for a show. Ok, maybe taking 100mg/day of dbol and 600mg/wk of Deca is considered "hormone replacement therapy" now days so I retract my statement sorry guys...

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 09, 2007, 07:53:23 AM »

Quote from: bigbalddaddy on March 09, 2007, 07:00:16 AM

Ohhhh brother give me a fuggin' break! This guy looks every inch as big at 60 as he did when he was 30 and he "may" be taking "hrt"? If you truly believe that then you should go to Betty Ford and get off the crack you are on! I'm sure his diet is on, i'm sure his genetics are superior, i'm sure after 40 yrs of training he knows what he's doing but jesus fellas own up to it! I'm also sure that Cormiers, Levrones, Arnolds and any other pro who came truly off's genetics are every bit as good as his! The guy is on a good amount of gear to look what he looked like 30 yrs ago when guys were gobbling 20-30 dbol (not mgs) a day along with tons of deca & primo. It's no secret what they took back then, plain jane dbol/deca cycles and primo to harden up for a show. Ok, maybe taking 100mg/day of dbol and 600mg/wk of Deca is considered "hormone replacement therapy" now days so I retract my statement sorry guys...

haha, i never talked about him jucing..of course he is on (easy to see if you compare with pics from 2-3 years ago)

what i was commenting was that you said he had no life...

im sure he does as working out doesnt take 15 hours per day.

i find it funny when you have all these obsessed guys who think bodybuilding has to be a 24/7 activity. it doesnt.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:38:32 AM »

Sorry to hear you think everyone that is muscular is on a shitload of gear. Don't make assumptions on other people's genetics. Plus, when you have built the base of muscle (assisted or not) its easier to get it back. Even doubling your testosterone will allow you to make gains. Normal young adults produce the equivalent of about 80-90mg of test per week so if someone was doing 200mg per week (very high range of HRT) they would have more than double their typical test levels. Being 60, he's probably producing half the test he did in his 20s so supplementing a small amount will make a big difference. Its futile arguing how much he is on, my arguement is that he can look like that on small amounts of gear with hard training and proper nutrition because of his base and his genetics.

Guys that are abusing gear do not look like Bill Grant. Additionally, we see his arms, not the rest of his body. His arms have always been big so its a genetic strongpoint.

VGalanti · « **Reply #56 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:43:21 AM »

bill MC'd my first open show in 89.....a great guy, and a fan of bodybuilding in general...very positive, and motivating person.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:46:43 AM »

Quote from: VGalanti on March 09, 2007, 08:43:21 AM

bill MC'd my first open show in 89.....a great guy, and a fan of bodybuilding in general...very positive, and motivating person.

bill is a great guy no doubt

Dingleberry · « **Reply #58 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:52:27 AM »

I guess Vince's "wait til you get old" comment just got tossed out the window....

donrhummy · « **Reply #59 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:58:05 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on March 08, 2007, 11:23:14 PM

Easily better than any IFBB Pro today.

Agreed, but I thought you were against steroids. Grant had to be on them then.

pumpster · « **Reply #60 on:** March 09, 2007, 08:58:58 AM »

Quote from: Dingleberry on March 09, 2007, 08:52:27 AM

I guess Vince's "wait til you get old" comment just got tossed out the window....

Not really; Bill's the exception. A lot more impressive than guys like "Sly", etc.

donrhummy · « **Reply #61 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:03:11 AM »

Bill's upper body reminds me of a more recent pro (I think 1990's but not sure) but I can't think of who. Can anyone think of who it might be?

Dingleberry · « **Reply #62 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:18:50 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 09, 2007, 08:58:58 AM

Not really; Bill's the exception. A lot more impressive than guys like "Sly", etc.

Arnold is runs California, and Vince runs a gym. I'd say Arnold has a wee bit less time on his hands to workout.

pumpster · « **Reply #63 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:22:57 AM »

Quote from: Dingleberry on March 09, 2007, 09:18:50 AM

Arnold is runs California, and Vince runs a gym. I'd say Arnold has a wee bit less time on his hands to workout.

Nice try; Arnold's first 9-5 job started about 2 years ago.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:46:52 AM »

Why do some of you continue to post that picture of Arnold right after his heart surgery? Christ, you can't do shit for weeks after a heart valve replacement. He got back into much better shape after that. Posting that picture is like tabloid shit.

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #65 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:57:25 AM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on March 09, 2007, 08:38:32 AM

Sorry to hear you think everyone that is muscular is on a shitload of gear. Don't make assumptions on other people's genetics. Plus, when you have built the base of muscle (assisted or not) its easier to get it back. Even doubling your testosterone will allow you to make gains. Normal young adults produce the equivalent of about 80-90mg of test per week so if someone was doing 200mg per week (very high range of HRT) they would have more than double their typical test levels. Being 60, he's probably producing half the test he did in his 20s so supplementing a small amount will make a big difference. Its futile arguing how much he is on, my arguement is that he can look like that on small amounts of gear with hard training and proper nutrition because of his base and his genetics.

Guys that are abusing gear do not look like Bill Grant. Additionally, we see his arms, not the rest of his body. His arms have always been big so its a genetic strongpoint.

This post I will 100% agree with in every aspect so I will shut my trap on this subject now since you explained it properly.

Dingleberry · « **Reply #66 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:10:52 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 09, 2007, 09:22:57 AM

Nice try; Arnold's first 9-5 job started about 2 years ago.

Yeah, all the stuff he did before becoming governer was just part time. He wasn't busy at all

http://www.who2.com/arnoldschwarzenegger.html
http://www.guy.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger

Then again, maybe it's because he doesn't have a bowflex at his house like you?

pumpster · « **Reply #67 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:28:45 AM »

Quote from: Dingleberry on March 09, 2007, 10:10:52 AM

Yeah, all the stuff he did before becoming governer was just part time. He wasn't busy at all

Predictable defensiveness from an Arnold groupie. Deal with it, he wasn't that busy AND Grant looks better and gets a lot less credit. Try sucking on his balls for a while as a change-up.

Schwarzenegger had no full-time job until 2 years ago, genius. Actors are out of work most of their careers you idiot. LOL

Here's another pic, since you're into Bows hahahaahahahahhah..

Dingleberry · « **Reply #68 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:36:18 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 09, 2007, 10:28:45 AM

Very predictable defensiveness from yet another Arnold groupie. Deal with it, Grant looks better and gets a lot less credit. Try sucking on his balls for a while as a change-up.

Schwarzenegger had no full-time job until 2 years ago, genius. LOL

Here's another pic, since you're into Bows hahahaahahahahhah..

This retaliation to my post is like using your last bit of energy, right before you die, to throw a stone at a tank that just ran you over. Because I'm in a good mood, I’ll let you have your last glorious moment.

pumpster · « **Reply #69 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:37:52 AM »

Quote from: Dingleberry on March 09, 2007, 10:36:18 AM

This retaliation to my post is like using your last bit of energy, right before you die, to throw a stone at a tank that just ran you over. I’ll let you have your last glorious moment.

Enjoy, Arnold guy & appropriately named "dingleberry" hahaahahahahahah

Dingleberry · « **Reply #70 on:** March 09, 2007, 10:39:21 AM »

Ok, two stones. Sleep tight little fella.

Max_Rep · « **Reply #71 on:** March 09, 2007, 11:25:27 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on March 09, 2007, 06:08:50 AM

true but you can get your body used to it if you increase volume gradually. also not sure he does 3 exercises....maybe only 2 per body part.

remember he is working bodyparts twice a week. also he used lots of super sets.

No he uses three exercises. I trained with him for two months in 1980 when I first moved to CA.

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #72 on:** March 09, 2007, 11:31:16 AM »

Quote from: bigbalddaddy on March 09, 2007, 09:57:25 AM

This post I will 100% agree with in every aspect so I will shut my trap on this subject now since you explained it properly.

Since you agreed with this post, can you tell me what part DID YOU NOT understand of my previous ones?

Mr. Michael Moore · « **Reply #73 on:** March 09, 2007, 11:32:30 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Michael Moore on March 08, 2007, 08:03:42 PM

What if the guy is on maintenance doses of juice prescribed by an endocrinologist because of all those years he juiced regularly as in comp bbing and because of that his own test levels are down?
He seems to be the kind of guy that kept training all those years, never stoped (pretty much like his buddy Robby Robinson) and for that reason, he doesn't need a whole lot of gear to look the way he does, now. When you are a bodybuilder at heart and soul training is your second nature, you never stop doing it. Add to that philosophy a good diet and a little amount of gear on maintenance doses and you probably have what you see in the pics , here.

You are a real Einstein, aren't you? $:-\$ Did it ever crossed your mind about what I said before jumping like an enraged beast and attack me? Probably you are another moron like Adonis who thinks this is another guy who's all drugs....

Sad to see how ascetic you guys are...nobody believes in training and dieting with little juice, anymore.

Just outta curiosity: how can you be so sure Bill is 'juiced to gills'? Are you related to him in any shape or form?

Moron...

See above post....

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 09, 2007, 11:38:14 AM »

Michael Moore, its just that I'm better looking

In any event, hats off to Bill. Not many BBers still look as good as him at 60! Great to see the old champions still living the classic BBing lifestyle. Makes you wonder how many of our pros today will be as healthy and look as good as Bill when they are 60....my guess is not that many.