Gen. Pace calls homosexuality immoral

[militarymuscle69]

Are you calling yourself a bigger man?

Bigger than you. I dont' attack your moral goodness like you did mine

[Camel Jockey]

I wouldn't call the fact homosexual sex is crime in the military irrelevant at all.  Although I don't know the origins of this prohibition in the military, I would imagine morality was part of the discussion when they enacted this law.  

What about heterosexual sex? Is that illegal in the military?

[militarymuscle69]

A homosexual who doesn't have homosexual sex?  C'mon.  That is unrealistic.  A homosexual defines himself by who he is physically attracted to and who he has sex with.  

I wouldn't call the fact homosexual sex is crime in the military irrelevant at all.  Although I don't know the origins of this prohibition in the military, I would imagine morality was part of the discussion when they enacted this law.  

The UCMJ was enacted by Eisenhower in either '51 or '55.

[militarymuscle69]

What about heterosexual sex? Is that illegal in the military?

if it is sodomy it is. But like anything it isn't illegal until you get caught

[OzmO]

Bigger than you. I dont' attack your moral goodness like you did mine

I didn't attack your moral goodness,  I attacked the fact of your admission that you let a general dictate your morals.

[Dos Equis]

What about heterosexual sex? Is that illegal in the military?

I believe some of it is.  Like sex between officers and enlisted, unless they're married?  Militarymuscle would know better than me.   

[militarymuscle69]

I didn't attack your moral goodness,  I attacked the fact of your admission that you let a general dictate your morals.

It isn't the general fool. It is the UCMJ. The leadership just enforces the UCMJ.

[militarymuscle69]

I believe some of it is.  Like sex between officers and enlisted, unless they're married?  Militarymuscle would know better than me.   

Good catch BB. I missed that. It is also illegal during deployments, and several other times.

[OzmO]

It isn't the general fool. It is the UCMJ. The leadership just enforces the UCMJ.

we were doing so well.   

Ok, sorry the UCMJ.

[militarymuscle69]

we were doing so well.   

Ok, sorry the UCMJ.

Exactly the UCMJ guides my morals in the exact same way the laws where you live guide yours. so how are we different again?

[OzmO]

Exactly the UCMJ guides my morals in the exact same way the laws where you live guide yours. so how are we different again?

The difference is in other moral issues outside of the basics, murder, rape, etc...


You let the UCMJ tell you what to think even though you don;t actually follow it 100% by not blowing the whistle on your gay co-worker.

I have my own moral code that isn't governed by anyone but myself.

[militarymuscle69]

The difference is in other moral issues outside of the basics, murder, rape, etc...


You let the UCMJ tell you what to think even though you don;t actually follow it 100% by not blowing the whistle on your gay co-worker.

I have my own moral code that isn't governed by anyone but myself.

So like you just said I have the ability to think for myslef. Thanks for pointing that out

[OzmO]

So like you just said I have the ability to think for myslef. Thanks for pointing that out