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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2007, 07:28:50 AM »
I guess I will answer your question this way. My latest client was Betty Pariso. I trained her for the Ms. International. Now, whether you like womens BB or not is beside the point. I am using this as an example of how I diet people and get them into shape. I started working with Betty 8 weeks out. I put her on zero to low carb (she had some veggies daily). She weighed 166 when we started and she weighed 157 5 days out. She had a total of 7 carb days in those 8 weeks. When she stepped on stage she had not had any carbs in her diet for 6 days. I did not carb her up, I did not restrict water and I did not use diuretics. She came in the best shape of her life. Although I did not keep track of her lean body mass she most likey gained a pounds or two of muscle. It is a total myth that your body prefers muscle to fat when you diet CORRECTLY! Betty did nothing different this year other than the diet she followed. So, now everyone can chime in and tell me why what I do is wrong and will not work.  ;D Even though I have been doing this on people for years with great success and even when people swear to me that it will not work for them.  ::)
Betty listened to me 100% and had total faith. She is a machine and is a very disciplined person and I am still amazed that she can look like that for 51.

so disqusted, you basically recommend what duchaine did, which was super low to no carbs for 5 or 6 days and then a "carb loading day" to keep the metabolism guessing? 
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2007, 10:00:17 AM »

 Hey DISGUSTED,

 What's up? Watcha doin? It's me...BlockHead. Hey man...

 Can you speak on the 'Palumbo Diet' which is basically 6 days of zero carbs and increased fat(s) with one day of a very high carby/shit meal to kickstart the diet all over again?

 What's your stance on it as it seems to be gaining lots of popularity as of late.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2007, 10:18:25 AM »
Hey DISGUSTED,

 What's up? Watcha doin? It's me...BlockHead. Hey man...

 Can you speak on the 'Palumbo Diet' which is basically 6 days of zero carbs and increased fat(s) with one day of a very high carby/shit meal to kickstart the diet all over again?

 What's your stance on it as it seems to be gaining lots of popularity as of late.



this is pretty much what BodyOpus is, except duchaine takes it really far if I remember right.   He doesn't pull any punches in that book at all, talks alot about gear and what compounds are gonna get you ripped asap.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #78 on: March 15, 2007, 12:43:58 PM »
Hey DISGUSTED,

 What's up? Watcha doin? It's me...BlockHead. Hey man...

 Can you speak on the 'Palumbo Diet' which is basically 6 days of zero carbs and increased fat(s) with one day of a very high carby/shit meal to kickstart the diet all over again?

 What's your stance on it as it seems to be gaining lots of popularity as of late.


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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #79 on: March 15, 2007, 12:46:42 PM »
as i said before
why dont you go and buy yourself a nice stack of bronkaid and use according to your bodyweight,,2-3 times a day,,add some caffeine and aspirin and see what happens within 30-60 days

if you want to keep all the muscle add: eq,,primobolan, trenbolone enanthate, masteron enanthate, and some testosterone so you are happy happy and dont lose even 1/10 of muscle tissue,,i suggest LONG ESTERS ON ALL.

try it and you will see that its not a rocket science,,also i suggest for a complete ripped down to the 5-6% zone you play with the carbs as in minimal carbs 4-5 days then 1 day high carbs

the bronkaid by itself with some caffeine will get the typical bodybuilder that starts with 12% down to 8% in no time,,rest is up to diet and hormones

we all work this way,,,you are no diff my friend

ZERO CARDIO NEEDED,,unless you like doing cardio,,then you wil get there even faster

GH, why long esters, as opposed to like tren acetate? And how does one incorporate anavar with ECA, or should it be done at all? Thanks
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2007, 01:23:54 PM »
this is pretty much what BodyOpus is, except duchaine takes it really far if I remember right.   He doesn't pull any punches in that book at all, talks alot about gear and what compounds are gonna get you ripped asap.

Duchaine did not advocate a shit meal really, he wanted bodybuilders to carb up with a dextrose/maltodextrin drink god awful tasting cause you were packing 300 grams of carbs in 15-20 oz. He suggested the cereal route for the joe blows reading the book or if you wanted to mess with it. Chubby chicks can suck a golf ball through a water hose, they really suck not just some slober oral action, friends may give you some shit, but you will catch em with her sooner or later

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2007, 01:48:38 PM »
Duchaine did not advocate a shit meal really, he wanted bodybuilders to carb up with a dextrose/maltodextrin drink god awful tasting cause you were packing 300 grams of carbs in 15-20 oz. He suggested the cereal route for the joe blows reading the book or if you wanted to mess with it. Chubby chicks can suck a golf ball through a water hose, they really suck not just some slober oral action, friends may give you some shit, but you will catch em with her sooner or later

mmmmmkay.  I read the book or parts of it about 3 years ago, I'm natty so alot of it was drug related which I don't have a problem with but it really didn't apply to me, I don't remember everything all that well that's why I'm asking.

the bolded part of your response is a little odd......but hey, it's all good.  Don't know how it applies to this but whatever. :D
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« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2007, 02:11:24 PM »
Haha yeah it's in response to GH15's post.

Yeah I've read the book a few times, he tossed the idea of cereal out there. I tried the diet but workouts sucked, energy was always to low and I could not stomach the food. The weekend glycogen load sucked for me, I felt so sick. Good information but now it's dated.

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« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2007, 02:17:22 PM »
So are ketones, which the body will not produce in the presence of carbs.

The body wont need to produce them in the presence of carbs.. .and leptin levels wont plummit either.

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« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2007, 02:22:17 PM »
eh, 24%

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« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2007, 02:39:52 PM »
GH, why long esters, as opposed to like tren acetate? And how does one incorporate anavar with ECA, or should it be done at all? Thanks


because your ass is no pillow,,you want 2 injection days a week not 7,,long easter will do the job better,,especially if not competing

anavar at 80-100mg a day devided into 3 doses through out the day,,make sure the anavar is legit because it is one of the top drugs that scammers love to play with
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2007, 07:43:36 PM »
Hey DISGUSTED,

 What's up? Watcha doin? It's me...BlockHead. Hey man...

 Can you speak on the 'Palumbo Diet' which is basically 6 days of zero carbs and increased fat(s) with one day of a very high carby/shit meal to kickstart the diet all over again?

 What's your stance on it as it seems to be gaining lots of popularity as of late.



I am familiar with his diet and he has had great success with it. I was not aware that he used a carb up meal with it. This "type" if diet has been around for many years. I was and still am doing this type of diet since the early 80's although I have modified it, but it was around way before that. People ask me all the time what makes my diet so succesfull and the main reason I would have to say is knowing when to change the diet around. When to lower or raise calories and when to add some carbs in and how many. Everyone is different so it really would not matter if I laid out someone's diet for people to see. When I train someone I train them as an idividual. Also, you need to remember something else. You can have two guys on stage with both the same level of BF and one can look ripped and the other soft. This has to do with water and other things. This is a whole other subject.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2007, 08:05:55 PM »
So disgusted. I was right and my friend was wrong???

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« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2007, 08:20:04 PM »
hahahaha, exactly, it always makes me laugh when these clowns think the answer is to totally eliminate a macronutrient like carbs but then defeat the whole purpose by eating twice as much protein thus leaving the total caloric intake exactly the same, morons.

The answer is not so easy. Both diets could work to lose 12 pounds of fat. The question is which one would be the most efficient as far as losing BF and gaining or atleast maintaining muscle. Yours would be the better choice although not ideal imo.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2007, 12:04:59 AM »
You can have two guys on stage with both the same level of BF and one can look ripped and the other soft. This has to do with water and other things. This is a whole other subject.

Can you elaborate more on that Tom?

Did I say Tom? I meant 'Disgusted'.


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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2007, 10:12:47 AM »
Can you elaborate more on that Tom?

Did I say Tom? I meant 'Disgusted'.



Actually it's Jim.  :) Can you be more specific on what you are asking?

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2007, 03:53:50 PM »
yes i dont quite understand either
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