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Im debating this with a friend of mine.

Whats the best possible method of going about this.

Heres the scenario :

I have 6 weeks to lose 12 lbs of FAT. I am 5'8 195lbs with 12-13% bodyfat. I have a fast metabolism but have most of my fat around my abdominal region.

My solution was a under low carb approach (under 50 a day) with one carb up meal a week, high protein, and high fat.

His solution is a super caloric restricted diet with low fat and low carbs, but super high protein.

What would ur solution be?????

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 12:14:26 PM »
cue up tA with the following response:

eat whatever you want just make sure you're in a caloric defecit.  Don't bother doing cardio just eat 300 calories less a day.  Buy a pullup bar and do pull ups through out the day, this will burn a ton of calories.  Look up the glycemic index...blah, blah, blah.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 12:19:17 PM »
Im debating this with a friend of mine.

Whats the best possible method of going about this.

Heres the scenario :

I have 6 weeks to lose 12 lbs of FAT. I am 5'8 195lbs with 12-13% bodyfat. I have a fast metabolism but have most of my fat around my abdominal region.

My solution was a under low carb approach (under 50 a day) with one carb up meal a week, high protein, and high fat.

His solution is a super caloric restricted diet with low fat and low carbs, but super high protein.

What would ur solution be?????


Clenbuterol.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 12:23:51 PM »
And what would u do N. Al?

cue up tA with the following response:

eat whatever you want just make sure you're in a caloric defecit.  Don't bother doing cardio just eat 300 calories less a day.  Buy a pullup bar and do pull ups through out the day, this will burn a ton of calories.  Look up the glycemic index...blah, blah, blah.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2007, 12:26:27 PM »

 Clen.

 Two days ON at 3 tabs a day which will be 60mcg daily and Two days OFF. On your OFF days substitue clen with ECA twice a day.

 Run that the entire 6 weeks. You'll lose about 15lbs of bodyfat.

 Trust me.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2007, 12:31:06 PM »
Im debating this with a friend of mine.

Whats the best possible method of going about this.

Heres the scenario :

I have 6 weeks to lose 12 lbs of FAT. I am 5'8 195lbs with 12-13% bodyfat. I have a fast metabolism but have most of my fat around my abdominal region.

My solution was a under low carb approach (under 50 a day) with one carb up meal a week, high protein, and high fat.

His solution is a super caloric restricted diet with low fat and low carbs, but super high protein.

What would ur solution be?????


In this particualr situation, I agree with your friend.  Read Lyle McDonald's "Rapid Fat Loss Handbook" for the scientific rationale behind this:

http://www.amazon.com/Rapid-Fat-Loss-Handbook-Scientific/dp/0967145643/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-5094630-4878319?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173900583&sr=8-1
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2007, 12:46:26 PM »
I think you must post your pic. Its depend on your bodytype.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2007, 12:53:37 PM »
And what would u do N. Al?


6 weeks ot loose 12lbs of fat?  AM cardio on an empty stomach, maybe mix in some BCAA's if you feel like it before hand, only if you're worried that you're loosing muscle.  I'd go have my LBM checked to make sure you really need to loose 12lbs then I'd start the AM cardio.  Get your hands on some ephedra over the net and do the old ephedra/caffine stack 2-3 times a day.  Low carbs, drink at least a gallon of water a day.

I'd read Dan Duchaine's book on getting ripped-can't remember the name but he lays it on the line in that.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 12:56:49 PM »
Body Opus?
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 01:01:35 PM »
Body Opus?

yes.  I was talking doing it "naturally", block suggested clen but I don't know anything about that.  I'd also really think of doing the LBM, how much is fat and how much is water weight? 

If things are slow do an AM cardio session with an empty stomach and do a PM session also.  I'd also look at only taking in carbs post workout.

this is for the timeframe laid out originally, if you had longer I might rethink everything I just suggested.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2007, 01:04:45 PM »
this is for the timeframe laid out originally, if you had longer I might rethink everything I just suggested.


Exactly.  Trying to lose 12 lbs of fat in 6 weeks doesn't really allow time to do things "right".
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2007, 01:10:18 PM »
get on the next survivor series and live on a tropical island, eat half of a little fish every day. Do a challenge every day....easy

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2007, 01:11:24 PM »
its called bronkaid in the usa and its what any bodybuilder use to lose bodyfat,,add caffeine to it with  some chweable aspirin
clenbuterol is good but not as good as ephedra,,never was as good as ephedra and never  will be as good as ephedra

amazon.com should have it for you ready to ship

good luck
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2007, 01:11:42 PM »
6 WEEKS IS MORE than enough to lose 12 lbs of fat.

You just need to create enough deficit.

Simple as can be.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2007, 01:11:46 PM »
cue up tA with the following response:

eat whatever you want just make sure you're in a caloric defecit.  Don't bother doing cardio just eat 300 calories less a day.  Buy a pullup bar and do pull ups through out the day, this will burn a ton of calories.  Look up the glycemic index...blah, blah, blah.
just curious.. who's provoking who at this point?

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2007, 01:12:20 PM »
Its just a hypothetical situation fellas. Myself and a buddy of mine were having a friendly debate about this.

And I just wanted to see what the getbiggers had to say!

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2007, 01:16:46 PM »

 12 weeks is plenty of time to lose even 20lbs of pure fat.

 Try the clen/ECA outline I posted and with cardio in the AM before your first meal for at least 30-40 minutes...watch the carbs and you'll be money.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2007, 01:18:22 PM »
Oh.

and Cardio is Not neccesary and you can eat whatever you like.

Just make sure the deficit is there.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2007, 01:21:04 PM »
6 WEEKS IS MORE than enough to lose 12 lbs of fat.

You just need to create enough deficit.

Simple as can be.

Yeah, just like in the Nazi concentration camps.  ::) 

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2007, 01:24:46 PM »
Yeah, just like in the Nazi concentration camps.  ::) 

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2007, 01:25:37 PM »
Yeah, just like in the Nazi concentration camps.  ::) 

that's a myth and you know it.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2007, 02:09:22 PM »
12 weeks is plenty of time to lose even 20lbs of pure fat.

 Try the clen/ECA outline I posted and with cardio in the AM before your first meal for at least 30-40 minutes...watch the carbs and you'll be money.

If you are natural, and are doing morning empty stomach cardio, you'll most likely burn a lot of muscle as well.

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2007, 02:14:34 PM »

 Maybe but there are way to combat that. Perhaps a spoon full of BCAA powder and even a little glutamine in a water bottle to be sipped on during cardio?

 Maybe a serving of PS before hand as well.

 As long as his cardio is moderate and not for any more than 40 minutes or so he should be fine. If he's weight training at a respectively intense way in the evening then he shouldnt lose muscle.

 Perhaps drop down to ECA once daily before morning cardio. I'd still have him use clen like I outlined...watch the carbs and keep them very minimal and up the good fat(s) and he should be good.
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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2007, 02:17:05 PM »
Im debating this with a friend of mine.

Whats the best possible method of going about this.

Heres the scenario :

I have 6 weeks to lose 12 lbs of FAT. I am 5'8 195lbs with 12-13% bodyfat. I have a fast metabolism but have most of my fat around my abdominal region.

My solution was a under low carb approach (under 50 a day) with one carb up meal a week, high protein, and high fat.

His solution is a super caloric restricted diet with low fat and low carbs, but super high protein.

What would ur solution be?????

Why six weeks, what are you doing this for?

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Re: DISGUSTED!!! Whats your solution ( or anyone else can answer)
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2007, 02:19:27 PM »
Why six weeks, what are you doing this for?
hahahaha, exactly, it always makes me laugh when these clowns think the answer is to totally eliminate a macronutrient like carbs but then defeat the whole purpose by eating twice as much protein thus leaving the total caloric intake exactly the same, morons.