Author Topic: Bob Paris: Wise words of a visionary/NEW PICS on p.2 and p.6 (Read 34149 times)

MindSpin · « **Reply #50 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:45:36 PM »

Quote from: ~salmon~ on March 15, 2007, 03:53:57 PM

A getbig love connection!!!!!!!!

ha! Salmon - you've been dormant lately. Hopefully you're back to put the "ownings" on some of the tiny-tits that are plagueing this board

Mr. Zimbabwe · « **Reply #51 on:** March 15, 2007, 04:46:41 PM »

Quote from: The Enigma on March 15, 2007, 04:24:48 PM

Great Post Grant.....tell it like it is.

Thanks! I'll always be honest and direct. I like Matt C ...waiting for his reply.

Eric2 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 15, 2007, 05:45:31 PM »

that guy puts warm cock into his mouth..................a nd his ass

Anabolic Outlaw · « **Reply #53 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:31:28 PM »

“Without making it a dictation of morals whatsoever because that’s not…uhh…the way I operate.”
-Bob Paris comments on YouTube Video: Olympians - Bob Paris Pt. 2

Paris appears to be boasting about his lack of morality on the cover of his book:

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #54 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:37:45 PM »

Quote from: timfogarty on March 15, 2007, 03:43:59 PM

I'd still do ya.

would you do bob paris?

njflex · « **Reply #55 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:45:04 PM »

his still had full crazy calves in the one pic,he was the epitome of the pretty body look of the eighties with demelo,mendenhall,and had more mag's cover's than the mr o himself ,which in a way is a slap in the face of title holder,haney,yates.coleman were the biggest of their era's but not prettiest hence they got their olympia cover's and then rest of year went to the contender's or up and coming one.

donrhummy · « **Reply #56 on:** March 15, 2007, 09:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 15, 2007, 04:01:50 PM

How do you mean? Wouldn't preserving your symmetry just mean not growing muscle beyond a particular level? E.g., as a natural I can now juice up on GH and insulin to 220 and be the same 220 on lots of sauce right? The point is not to go beyond that point, but how you do it would seem irrelevant.

Yes, exactly. GH15 you're wrong here. Except fo a few muscles (forearms, lats) Bob Paris was pretty much perfect. Adding more muscle would ruin the overall look. There IS a point at which, even if added symmetrically, it's too much muscle and would look ridiculous or un-aesthetic.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:40:32 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 15, 2007, 09:41:50 PM

And hence the fallacy in ironage thinking - that bodybuilders today look so terrible due to issues of shape of the physique rather than size. Truth be told, if Haney kept all of his lines and competed at 300 pounds and hard, he would simply be TOO muscular, and that in itself would detract from his symmetry.

Too much muscle is a flaw in and of itself. Rather than complaining about guts and poor lines, just acknowledge that bodybuilders today have simply packed on too much mass on their frames.

true and several of the top pros would have better than ironage physiques at lighter bodyweights!

well atleast in the 90s lol.

crownshep · « **Reply #58 on:** March 16, 2007, 05:18:32 AM »

Perfection.

crownshep · « **Reply #59 on:** March 16, 2007, 05:24:20 AM »

The screencap is from the 83 Nationals.

nycbull · « **Reply #60 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:57:46 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on March 15, 2007, 04:17:56 PM

actually he's 48. and while everyone ages differently, I think part of the reason why he looks the way he looks today is that he was a white boy who spent a lot of time in a tanning booth.

true, the results of a generation that worshiped the sun and frequented tanning booths. YOu see it more and more. Go to Southern California, even with all the plastic surgery, anyone over 40 has skin like leather, dry, wrinkled and grayish in color. You can even see sun damage in people under 40, even in their 20's. Ironic that the most vain will look the worst when the get older.

Also the extreme low bodyfat that people obsess over actually makes them look years older. It does somehting weird to the skin. And it never looks the same, same as with people that have stretched their skin out.

donrhummy · « **Reply #61 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:24:06 AM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 15, 2007, 09:41:50 PM

And hence the fallacy in ironage thinking - that bodybuilders today look so terrible due to issues of shape of the physique rather than size. Truth be told, if Haney kept all of his lines and competed at 300 pounds and hard, he would simply be TOO muscular, and that in itself would detract from his symmetry.

Too much muscle is a flaw in and of itself. Rather than complaining about guts and poor lines, just acknowledge that bodybuilders today have simply packed on too much mass on their frames.

Well...yes and no. The guts and expanding waistlines are ALSO a factor in ruining the physiques of today. It's NOT one or the other, it's both: the guts/waistlines AND too much muscle. Just look at some of the amateurs coming up who don't have a lot of muscle yet for some reason have guts!

If you took Ronnie today and kept the gut but removed 40 lbs of muscle he STILL wouldn't have a good physique. The same holds true for Cutler and now sadly, Dexter.

timfogarty · « **Reply #62 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:24:57 AM »

Quote from: donrhummy on March 16, 2007, 08:24:06 AM

Just look at some of the amateurs coming up who don't have a lot of muscle yet for some reason have guts!

the reason is the increase in adipose (intra adbominal fat) caused by gh and insulin

donrhummy · « **Reply #63 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:39:52 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on March 16, 2007, 10:24:57 AM

the reason is the increase in adipose (intra adbominal fat) caused by gh and insulin

And I give you the ironage physique updated to today's "drugs":

donrhummy · « **Reply #64 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:17:43 PM »

Remember when BB's and BB magazines looked like this:

donrhummy · « **Reply #65 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:22:53 PM »

I think, one of the best BB mag covers ever:

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #66 on:** March 16, 2007, 01:48:52 PM »

Matt C, are you friggin blind? You mean to say you don't see the beauty and pulchritude staring you in the face right here?

Matt C · « **Reply #67 on:** March 16, 2007, 03:59:29 PM »

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #68 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:57:24 PM »

I posted that clip earlier in this thread. Very good! No one looks or poses like that any more...

ribonucleic · « **Reply #69 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:57:18 PM »

The racist jokes you see around here are really tedious.

But I have to say: everytime I see that picture of Ronnie with a huge belly and his arms over his head, he reminds me of a gorilla.

Figo · « **Reply #70 on:** March 17, 2007, 09:33:34 AM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on March 16, 2007, 07:57:18 PM

The racist jokes you see around here are really tedious.

But I have to say: everytime I see that picture of Ronnie with a huge belly and his arms over his head, he reminds me of a gorilla.

That guy has some mean traps. But Ronnie has him on chest.

arce377 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:05:55 AM »

Bob, Grant and Spin are cool guys...

Mr. Zimbabwe · « **Reply #72 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:35:39 AM »

Quote from: arce377 on March 17, 2007, 10:05:55 AM

Bob, Grant and Spin are cool guys...

Arce, thanks for your compliment. Are you still working with Karo? I hope he has a comeback.

PS -- found this old pic of me at 18... my very first show. I wish my waist was still that small! There were no "guts" on the Pro's I aspired to in the 80's.

donrhummy · « **Reply #73 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:41:14 AM »

Quote from: Grant_Michaels on March 17, 2007, 10:35:39 AM

Arce, thanks for your compliment. Are you still working with Karo? I hope he has a comeback.

PS -- found this old pic of me at 18... my very first show. I wish my waist was still that small! There were no "guts" on the Pro's I aspired to in the 80's.

Seriously, why'd you give up competitive BB?

Mr. Zimbabwe · « **Reply #74 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:03:22 AM »

Quote from: donrhummy on March 17, 2007, 10:41:14 AM

Seriously, why'd you give up competitive BB?

Many reasons. I simply didn't like the direction is was going in ... the drug issue been the main one. Years later the proof was in the pudding with names like Munzer, Beniziza, Sonny Schimdt, Don Youngblood, Tom Prince, Flex Wheeler, Mike Francois, MIke Matarrazzo, Orville Burke ... man I could keep going and going. And those are just the Pro's....

I didn't like the way the IFBB ran a mafia-type domination of politics on the sport and prevented any chance of mainstream sponsors ever coming in and helping the sport to grow. Giving any mainstream sponsors a chance would have meant sacrificing the tight power hold that they had on the sport. They chose to keep a dictatorship control on the sport instead. Bad choice really .... because the sport is dying a slow death now in my opinion.

What a different place we might be in today if we had seen ad's with marketable young guys, like Bob Paris or Shawn Ray, flashing his smile after a work-out on TV saying... "When I'm dieting for the Mr. Olympia ... it's only the classic taste of Diet Pepsi that keeps me focused and smiling everyday!"