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re: newbie needs help, please.
« on: March 15, 2007, 06:52:03 PM »

 

In 2003 I weighed 282lbs and 12 oz (I got on one of those scales that the GNC store had and it gave me a print out) and I vauguely remember my body fat being at 33.6% (perhaps more, that percentage was taken in 2001 at a gym fitness orientation, I just rememebr that number)
In August 2005 I finally got the desire to make the change and by August of '06 was down to 175lbs

I'm 27 5'6 (maybe 5'7 or 5'8  in a good shoe) 176lbs, 15.7% bodyfat (I took it with an Omrons Electronic Body Fat Percentage Analyzer in August of 2006). I did it all through nutriton, no excercise. I had 3 meals a day, no sugar, no white flour, low carbs.

I heavily resricted my food from September to November of 2006 and got down to 160lb and was wearing a loose size 32 waist (in european cuts)
I shot back up to my current weight of 176 lbs. in Febuary as a result of greedy food restrction (I learned my lesson).


Here's a sample of my food as it stands t oday, its not strict, and I'm being intutive about it, in other words  I'm not planning the night before, like i had when I lost the bulk of my weight.

Not to  say that I 'm against pre-planning. I just feel lost as to how I need to progress. My fat friends say I look good, but when I look in the mirror, I look fat because of muffin top mid section and breasts-like things called my chest. A foremer fat friend said he takes gamma-o to boast his testerone and it helped him. He suggest I get my hormones tested, because obseity produces more estragen in t he body. Is that true? Anyway, here's my sample food:

#1 @ 9:40am

1 whole egg + 2 white
(1slice) canadian bacon, oinion, bell pepper


Snack # 1 @ 1pm
1/2 cup oatmeal
fist of raisons

Snack # 2 @ 2:20pm (preworkout)
1 banana

3-4pm Upper body workout

Meal # 2 @ 5pm

1 protein shake (1/4 cup bluberry, 1 cup unsweetend soy milk, 1 TB
super greens drink powder, 1 scoop choclate whey protein (stevia
sweetned))
2 whole eggs, 2 white w/ onion
1 cup qunoia
1 banana
1 slice wheat toast w/country crock smear

Meal # 3 @ 8:30pm

3.5 oz mahi
3 slices canadian bacon
2 TB evo
1/2 cup salsa
1/4 cup qunoia


I joined a 24-hour (so I can't have an excuse to not work out), I hired a trainer this week and bought a 20-pack (i'm a novice and don't know shit about lifting with technique). My trainer says I have good genetics but my body is weak. What changes do I have to make to cut body fat. The area that I really need to focus on is upper body. I have all this belly fat and pectoral fat. What do I need to do to go to the next level?

Phatnomore (but still fat)




 

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2007, 03:14:47 AM »
Get serious with your diet and learn the calories etc.

Find out your basal metabolic rate and play around with that and see what works. - Possibly get some accumeasure calipers and record your weight/bodyfat % on a consistent weekly basis with consistent variables.

Cardio (in the AM before breaky , HIIT , long duration 45 mins , intervals , etc etc etc) , Experiment

Serious weight lifting routine focusing on heavy compound lifts , and progressive resistence (trying to increase the weight or reps each time) and recording your lifts.

Caffiene , green tea , asprin ...... But only use before cardio.

That might help?  :)  Best of luck anyhow , oh and sleep 8 solid hours a night if possible.






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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2007, 04:24:04 AM »
Tier

Thanks for the reply. I have a few questions?

When it comes to calipers, analog or digital? Does it matter?

While we are on measuring tools, are there any good scales that give consistent weigh-ins you could recommend?

Besides the list below are there any other compound excercises?

(1) Bench Press
(2) Military Press
(3) Deadlift
(4) Bent-Over Row
(5) Pull Up
(6) Dip
(7) Squat

Caffiene , green tea , asprin ...... But only use before cardio--Do i need to take all 3? And what does asprin do?what exactly is the reason behind this, is one more effective than the other? In other words, would this be  a good reason for me to shell out money for that espresso machine?

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 04:59:50 AM »
Water.  Lots.

For caffeine just buy some freeze dried coffee and eat it, but only if you're hardcore.  ;)

Nah, I've got an espresso machine... love it.

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 08:57:49 AM »
Caffiene , green tea , asprin ...... But only use before cardio--Do i need to take all 3? And what does aspirin do?what exactly is the reason behind this, is one more effective than the other? In other words, would this be  a good reason for me to shell out money for that espresso machine?

I wouldn't waste your time with the aspirin. It'll probably just upset your stomach. I also wouldn't waste your time with a fat burners (yet). An espresso machine would probably be a waste money & their messy (or at least mine was).

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2007, 08:30:47 PM »
I've got a DeLonghi "Magnifica" Rim.  Wasn't cheap but cleaning isn't an issue.

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2007, 10:23:54 PM »
Phat:

I say take the asprin with the caffeine.  100's of studys say it helps burn fat.  I don't know how a nuclear bomb works, but I know it does.  So I say for a buck fity, throw it in.

Get rid of the bacon, eat some chicken breast, as far as the banana, I would eat half of one.  See you're progress, when you get more muscle, you're body can handle more calories.  I'd eat as low fat as possible as someone said previously, to measure you're progress, then add after that.  Find you're goal, and get in the mindset to attain it no matter what.  if you have to really cut back for 3 day's and eat 2 slices of pizza on the 4th oto boost the metabolism, do it.  an egg only has 7 grams of protein, depending on the size, I can and sometimes do eat a dozen whites a day, like on leg day. 

Blast them legs, biggest body part that demands a secretion of gh and testosterone every time you do it.  Make a date with the squat rack, do 8-10 sets, even if they are not all heavy, get them hormones going, hormones are key.  For cardio, try sprints for a minute then walk for 1 sprint for 1 walk for 1 for 20 minutes.  look at sprinters, look at long distance runners, huge physique difference.  Use whatever you can to you're advantage.

You can do it, take a little advice from everyone, mine is by no means the only way, but it is 1 that will get you progressl.  PM me for any other tips.  I've been ripped and skinny, and huge and ripped, a runner, and a bodybuilder, I relied on my physique for $$$ at chippendales and the entertainment industry.  I know alot of tricks that I personally haven't done, but for other body types worked for others.

Mainly keep consistent, but keep you're body guessing as well.

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2007, 06:20:04 AM »
Here's my Food from Fri 3.17. I tried to eat cleaner. And in more frequency. I carried my digital scale with me so the measure are on point. What's the deal with salt in your diet, why is that bad for you? Also really tried to clean up the carbs. Oh and I didn't work out today. Here are my excuses: I went to the gym the night before from 11pm-11:45pm to do some upper body (after a full day of classes at 9am and then worked tilled 10pm). Fri, same schedule, class at 9am - 2pm. Had to work at 3pm-10pm. On top of that, there was a fucking snow storm in NYC, I'm talking about fucking wind and hail and ice. Yeah, yeah I already beat myself up for being a wimp for not sucking it up and going to any lengths to reach my goal...But here I am reading and posting to the board. its about 9:20am (NYC time) and I just had 8oz of caffeine and feeling kinda nauseous. So do I wait about an hour after I take the caffeine to do HITT cardio?


(1)   Breakfast #1 @ 7:45am

     1 whole egg + 2 white, 1.5 TB oyster sauce
     1 slice man's bread, smear of country crock
     1 banana

(2)   Snack # 1

     1 can swanson chunk chicken (4oz)

(3)   Lunch # 2 @ 2:45pm

     4.3 oz chicken breast
     9 oz veg mix from whole foods (roasted egg plant, zucchini, shaved
     fennel, hummas)

(4)    Snack # 2

     8 oz non-fat yogurt
     1 oz walnuts

(5)  Mini Meal @ 9:40pm

     2 oz  chicken breast
     4 oz veg (roasted zucchini, hummus)

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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2007, 08:48:03 PM »
Today was the best I have ever eatten, interms of frequency and quality. Is avacado a safe food to be had in a daily diet?


Meal # 1 @ 8:40pm

1 whole egg + 2 whites, w/oyster sauce
1 slice man's bread w/scraped out soynut butter, perhaps slightly over 1 TB
 and scraped from the jar sugar free raspberry preserve maybe 2 TB

Snack # 1 @ 10:30
4.5 oz yogurt

Snack # 2 @ 12:30pm
1/4 cup oatmeal, 1/2 apple, 2 TB non dairy creamer

Meal # 2 @ 2pm
4oz broiled bbq marinated skinless/boneless chicken breast
1 cup salsa

Snack # 3 @ 4pm
1/4 cup oatmeal, 1/2 apple, 2 TB non dairy creamer

Snack # 4 @ 7:30pm
2 oz chicken
4.5 oz yougurt

Meal # 3 @ 10:30pm
4.5 oz broil/boneless/skinless bbq marinated chciken thighs
1 small avacado, w/red onion
1 have hot house cucumber w/dressing (white vinegar, seasoned salt,
splenda, black pepper)


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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2007, 09:57:02 PM »
Fat loss is the goal right?

Eating healthy wont mean shit in achieving Fat Loss IF your eating too many calories over what you need daily for maintenence.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

http://www.thecaloriecounter.com/

Try and get an idea of how many calories your eating , invest in a kitchen scale (cheap normal one)


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Re: re: newbie needs help, please.
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2007, 10:01:03 PM »

When it comes to calipers, analog or digital? Does it matter?

While we are on measuring tools, are there any good scales that give consistent weigh-ins you could recommend?


Caffiene , green tea , asprin ...... But only use before cardio--Do i need to take all 3? And what does asprin do?what exactly is the reason behind this, is one more effective than the other? In other words, would this be  a good reason for me to shell out money for that espresso machine?

Analog (god knows if it matters)

Digital scales on a consistent surface and same variables (no clothes , after toilet , 1st thing in morn , once a week , same day , blah blah blah)

Just drink the horrid shit before cardio , dont worry about the reasons , if it makes u more energised and you work harder then thats more calories burned  ;D

Practice makes perfect dude , just try and get better at every aspect of fat loss and weight training over time and you can only improve...right?