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Drinking.. how much is too much?
« on: March 19, 2007, 04:39:42 PM »
I was wondering what you guys consider excessive daily consumption of alcohol?

Have any of you had alcohol related problems?

And is consuming about 300 ml of 40% alcohol by volume daily harmful? Can it cause problems in the near future other then addiction.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2007, 04:54:51 PM »
To much is when you've puked your guts up in the toilet to the point where nothing comes up and it starts to hurt.

You then you collapse on the floor, pressing your head against the base of the toilet 'cos it feels nice and cool and makes you feel a little better.

Eventually (if you're lucky) you manage to crawl to the bedroom and drag yourself on to the bed, and as the room spins around and around you promise yourself 'never again'

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2007, 05:03:00 PM »


Eventually (if you're lucky) you manage to crawl to the bedroom and drag yourself on to the bed, and as the room spins around and around you promise yourself 'never again'

Usually when I drink that much I feel really shitty the next day and don't drink for a few days before starting up again.

Seriously, will health problems result from having about 6 drinks a night? I feel nothing in the morning afterwards unless I have about 8+ drinks within 2-3 hours a night.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2007, 05:04:13 PM »
i have wine prolly 4 to 5 nights a week


some nights only a glass with din din


other nights i do a bottle or two


some nights i tap the cabinet and hit my scotch or rye



tonight i am feelin a little christmasy and i made a few brandy alexanders
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2007, 05:31:14 PM »
Usually when I drink that much I feel really shitty the next day and don't drink for a few days before starting up again.

Seriously, will health problems result from having about 6 drinks a night? I feel nothing in the morning afterwards unless I have about 8+ drinks within 2-3 hours a night.

I suppose it depends on what ypou are drinking. I'd imagine that, that amount of drinking every night you'll eventually end up with liver problems.

Me, I like to have a can of stella a night or a couple of glasses of wine. I don't get hammered any more but I can easily put away a couple of bottles of wine on the occasional weekend or 7-8 pints down the pub.



Alcohol: How Much Is Too Much?




The recommended weekly alcohol limit is:

3-4 units per day for men and
2-3 units per day for women.

One unit of alcohol is roughly equivalent to half a pint of normal strength beer, or a small glass of wine, or one pub measure of spirits. Check the bottle or can to see how many units there are in it. All this should be spread out over the week, so don't kid yourself that sticking to the limit but drinking it all in one go is somehow being healthy!

Similarly, if you regularly go over this amount, then you should think about cutting down your alcohol intake. Apart from all the things you can get up to when you're drunk, your body will suffer long-term if you put too much alcohol in it. Your liver, stomach, throat, kidneys and heart can all suffer from long term alcohol use (or abuse).

Binge drinking (downing twice the recommended daily intake in one session) is a growing problem, and according to a survey by Communities that Care, over a quarter of 15 and 16 year olds (male and female) binge three or more times a month.

We know the health risks, but it still doesn't stop us. Why? The experts say there are two reasons:

The British attitude towards booze is that, because it's a forbidden fruit when we're young, we associate it with being 'grown up', cool or rebellious. We carry that belief with us even when we're legally old enough to drink.


British pub opening hours give us a desperate need to cram in as much as we can before being turfed out just after 11pm.
The government hopes it has the solution. In 2003, they're trying to push through new legislation that allows pubs, clubs and bars to open 24 hours a day. The longer licensing hours, they believe, should allow us to drink at a more leisurely pace and reduce binge drinking.

Regularly Overdoing It
 Of course at Christmas, or around a birthday, everyone overdoes it a bit and it's kind of expected. Going over the recommended limit occasionally does not mean you are an alcoholic or that you have a drink problem.

But if you find it hard or impossible to stick to the recommended level, if you're drinking too much too often, or if you regularly feel you really need a drink, that's when you should think about asking for help.

Ask yourself these questions:

Have you ever felt you should cut down on your drinking?


Have people annoyed you by criticising your drinking?


Have you ever felt guilty about your drinking?


Have you ever had a drink first thing in the morning to steady your nerves or to get rid of a hangover?
Answering 'yes' to two or more of them means you may have an alcohol-related problem and that you should cut down. Your drinking could start to control you rather than the other way round.

Think you're overdoing it, or are you worried about someone else? Read on for more info about alcohol addiction.




Related Links
For a list of useful links, contacts and resources see the Further Information - Alcohol section.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2007, 05:38:18 PM »
before i put a serious crimp on it..i ws buzzing during the whole damn day..i ws teaching buzzed..

i'd wake up..have breakfast..have a scotch neat..go to work..have a ciggy on the drive over..

1 hour lunch me and another cisco guy would go pound shots and beer at a local bar...show back up..teaxch..then hit the bar after class..

then i'd go home drink and watch TV..i ws hardly eating..not being buzzed seemed wayy 2 boring

when it got to with me waking up and puking everymorning in the shower.from last days drinking and walking with a limp cause my sides hurt..twas time to leave the party..

i still have problems sleeping ..i dont know how unless i'm drunk..and here n there i slip up and go buy me a pint just so i can sleep..

but for the most part ..my training now puts me to sleep..thankgod..its one helluva shaky slow start..but its a start..
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2007, 05:45:01 PM »
I usually drink at night, about 6 drinks roughly 250 ml of vodka or red label.

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i still have problems sleeping ..i dont know how unless i'm drunk..and here n there i slip up and go buy me a pint just so i can sleep..

I do too. Unless I'm tired I have trouble falling asleep without marijuana or alcohol. I think alcohol has even overtaken weed as my drug of choice which is pretty akward.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2007, 06:22:15 PM »
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2007, 06:26:32 PM »
one HUGE red flag is having trouble falling asleep with no booze in your system.  That is when you know physical dependency is beginning.  From then on the next step of making an "eye-opener" before work is not as far off as you think.  Be careful.

I only drink on the weekends, mainly because I can't function at work hungover.   If you can, good for you. But it is also good in that keeping it on the weekends limits potential dependency (at least physically)

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2007, 06:46:46 PM »
one HUGE red flag is having trouble falling asleep with no booze in your system.  That is when you know physical dependency is beginning.  From then on the next step of making an "eye-opener" before work is not as far off as you think.  Be careful.

I only drink on the weekends, mainly because I can't function at work hungover.   If you can, good for you. But it is also good in that keeping it on the weekends limits potential dependency (at least physically)


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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2007, 07:00:21 PM »
I was wondering what you guys consider excessive daily consumption of alcohol?


For a bodybuilder?


"Daily" consumption of alcohol is excessive.

Unless you're only having one glass of wine or one beer, but what the hell's the point of that?


IMO, if you're drinking more than one or two days a week at most, you've got a problem.
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2007, 07:11:08 PM »
I usually drink at night, about 6 drinks roughly 250 ml of vodka or red label.

I do too. Unless I'm tired I have trouble falling asleep without marijuana or alcohol. I think alcohol has even overtaken weed as my drug of choice which is pretty akward.

as much as i dont really like ya..i'll give u some sound advice..

its a VERY slippery slope..1 day/week/year you r convincing yourself thats its just there to help ya fall asleep..and the next..life seems soo fucking boring that everything needs to be seen from rose coloured glasses..

i'm pretty sure...you r buzzed as ya typed that..STOP NOW..i had my parents $ to fallback on...you dont..soo i'm being a friend here..cut it out..cold turkey..tell yourself you aren't gonna drink for 5 months and stick to it..
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2007, 10:57:05 PM »
as much as i dont really like ya..i'll give u some sound advice..

its a VERY slippery slope..1 day/week/year you r convincing yourself thats its just there to help ya fall asleep..and the next..life seems soo fucking boring that everything needs to be seen from rose coloured glasses..

i'm pretty sure...you r buzzed as ya typed that..STOP NOW..i had my parents $ to fallback on...you dont..soo i'm being a friend here..cut it out..cold turkey..tell yourself you aren't gonna drink for 5 months and stick to it..

Wow, an alcoholic, coke snorting, shoot steroids, delusional story teller is going to give us some advice.  ::)


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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2007, 11:00:42 PM »
I am drunk 4-5 nights a week...

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2007, 08:41:42 AM »
I've had about 2 glasses of wine per night for about 15 years, never interfeared with my training or dieting!

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2007, 11:01:24 AM »
as much as i dont really like ya..i'll give u some sound advice..

its a VERY slippery slope..1 day/week/year you r convincing yourself thats its just there to help ya fall asleep..and the next..life seems soo fucking boring that everything needs to be seen from rose coloured glasses..

i'm pretty sure...you r buzzed as ya typed that..STOP NOW..i had my parents $ to fallback on...you dont..soo i'm being a friend here..cut it out..cold turkey..tell yourself you aren't gonna drink for 5 months and stick to it..

Well alcohol is stress relief for me. I work hard through the day, study and then after 8 pm I start drinking. it's like the alcohol is a reward for all my hard work. I've been doing this for over half a year now and usually I'm up the next morning somtimes at 5 am for work, or usually later for school. Sometimes I consume over 6 shots and that's when it becomes a problem with hangovers on the next morning. If I'm at 6 or under then I have no problem during the next day. Alcohol hasn't messed with school or anything as of yet.

I'm not gonna drink tonight because it's a really bad habit I've built up and I'm sick of it.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2007, 01:46:01 PM »
Wow, an alcoholic, coke snorting, shoot steroids, delusional story teller is going to give us some advice.  ::)



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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2007, 09:21:18 PM »
i love drinking as much as anyone but you have to at some point draw the line and get real with yourself, keep it all in perspective.
yes its extremely liberating and entertaining while your doing it, but realistically its fucking with your body and mind.

it makes your body soft and your mind weak, so that your mind begins craving for the escape it provides at any little hint of stress or boredom.

thats what bothers me the most about my drinking,even more than the softening effect it has on my physique...its the knowledge that everytime i start up i know im 'giving in' and didnt have the mental strength to resist it. knowing ive opted for the escape. it makes me feel like a pussy.

bottom line i used to drink 3-4 days a week, now i stick to once a week.

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2007, 04:29:05 AM »
If you're at home who cares, but if you're leaving a bar or party, TOO MUCH is when you're over the legal limit. Of course there are fools here that say they can drive fine over double the legal limit.  ::)

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2007, 05:05:23 AM »
i am definately what is known as a binge drinker. I wont touch a drop all week then go out and get f kin sh it faced most saturdays - although recently i have been smiking a bit more weed and this has helped to stop the binge drinking - i dont know which is worse for you though !!  :'(

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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2007, 09:38:01 AM »
Wow, an alcoholic, coke snorting, shoot steroids, delusional story teller is going to give us some advice.  ::)



and u r? hardly a blip on me radar mate..  :)
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2007, 09:43:57 AM »
Well alcohol is stress relief for me. I work hard through the day, study and then after 8 pm I start drinking. it's like the alcohol is a reward for all my hard work. I've been doing this for over half a year now and usually I'm up the next morning somtimes at 5 am for work, or usually later for school. Sometimes I consume over 6 shots and that's when it becomes a problem with hangovers

thats what i used to tell myself....then there ws a point where i'd hit up half a pint of jonny black at home..orr in the car driving to my dive....then  ..a pitcher of some crap beer (bud)...about 6 shots or yager..at a dive bar.and then i'd be REALLY ready to go out and party...and i'd then drive home..if i let about 20 mins go between drinks i'd lose my buzz..as long as i drank plenty of water i NEVER got hangover..in my 10 yrs of drinking..i can maybe remember 2 hangovers..and the anount i put away woulda killed most..

anyhow..the wakeup call began when i started to retrain..to get back in the gym and it ws shocking how weak i had become..in my mind..i ws still strong..and posting on getbig like it ws still 6 yrs ago and i ws still strong..


keep it to one day/week..


personally..unless i slip..i dont drink..its for special ocassions only..like vacations..
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Re: Drinking.. how much is too much?
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2007, 12:13:28 PM »
i didn't drink last night. I felt great this morning! Got up at 8 and went for a jog, then ate breakfast, then went to class felling like a million bucks! We'll have to see how I can hold up without touching alcohol.

Thank you guys! I'm glad you guys shared your experiences and talked about your problems.

I'm not gonna give up drinking because I honestly can't kick the habit. But I'm only gonna drink twice a week from now on.

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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2007, 06:23:47 PM »
i didn't drink last night. I felt great this morning! Got up at 8 and went for a jog, then ate breakfast, then went to class felling like a million bucks! We'll have to see how I can hold up without touching alcohol.

Thank you guys! I'm glad you guys shared your experiences and talked about your problems.

I'm not gonna give up drinking because I honestly can't kick the habit. But I'm only gonna drink twice a week from now on.
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2007, 06:24:38 PM »
If you're at home who cares, but if you're leaving a bar or party, TOO MUCH is when you're over the legal limit. Of course there are fools here that say they can drive fine over double the legal limit.  ::)
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