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Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« on: March 20, 2007, 04:27:16 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8O06EU80&show_article=1

    
Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings    
Mar 20 05:59 PM US/Eastern
By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer    
                  




      WASHINGTON (AP) - A defiant President Bush warned Democrats Tuesday to accept his offer to have top aides testify about the firings of federal prosecutors only privately and not under oath or risk a constitutional showdown from which he would not back down.

Democrats' response to his proposal was swift and firm: They said they would start authorizing subpoenas as soon as Wednesday for the White House aides.

"Testimony should be on the record and under oath. That's the formula for true accountability," said Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Bush, in a late-afternoon statement at the White House, said, "We will not go along with a partisan fishing expedition aimed at honorable public servants. ... I have proposed a reasonable way to avoid an impasse."

He added that federal prosecutors work for him and it is natural to consider replacing them. "There is no indication that anybody did anything improper," the president said.

Bush gave his embattled attorney general, Alberto Gonzales, a boost during an early morning call and ended the day with a public statement repeating it. "He's got support with me," Bush said.

The Senate, meanwhile, voted to strip Gonzales of his authority to fill U.S. attorney vacancies without Senate confirmation. Democrats contend the Justice Department and White House purged eight federal prosecutors, some of whom were leading political corruption investigations, after a change in the Patriot Act gave Gonzales the new authority.

Several Democrats, including presidential hopefuls Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden and John Edwards, have called for Gonzales' ouster or resignation. So have a handful of Republican lawmakers.

"What happened in this case sends a signal really through intimidation by purge: 'Don't quarrel with us any longer,'" said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., a former U.S. attorney who spent much of Monday evening paging through 3,000 documents released by the Justice Department.

Bush said his White House counsel, Fred Fielding, told lawmakers they could interview presidential counselor Karl Rove, former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and their deputies—but only on the president's terms: in private, "without the need for an oath" and without a transcript.

The president cast the offer as virtually unprecedented and a reasonable way for Congress to get all the information it needs about the matter.

"If the Democrats truly do want to move forward and find the right information, they ought to accept what I proposed," Bush said. "If scoring political points is the desire, then the rejection of this reasonable proposal will really be evident for the American people to see."

Bush said he would aggressively fight in court any attempt to subpoena White House aides.

"If the staff of a president operated in constant fear of being hauled before various committees to discuss internal deliberations, the president would not receive candid advice and the American people would be ill-served," he said. "I'm sorry the situation has gotten to where it's got, but that's Washington, D.C., for you. You know there's a lot of politics in this town."

Sen. Chuck Schumer, who is leading the Senate probe into the firings, spoke dismissively of the deal offered by the White House:

"It's sort of giving us the opportunity to talk to them, but not giving us the opportunity to get to the bottom of what really happened here."

Even without oaths, Bush aides would be legally required to tell the truth to Congress. But without a transcript of their comments, "it would be almost meaningless to say that they would be under some kind of legal sanction," Schumer complained.

Fielding's meeting on Capitol Hill came a few hours after Bush spoke with Gonzales in an early morning phone call—their first conversation since the president had acknowledged mistakes by his longtime friend and lawmakers of both parties had called for Gonzales' ouster.

The White House offered to arrange interviews with Rove, Miers, deputy White House counsel William Kelley and J. Scott Jennings, a deputy to White House political director Sara Taylor, who works for Rove.

"Such interviews would be private and conducted without the need for an oath, transcript, subsequent testimony or the subsequent issuance of subpoenas," Fielding said in a letter to the Senate and House Judiciary committees and their ranking Republicans.

He said documents released by the Justice Department "do not reflect that any U.S. attorney was replaced to interfere with a pending or future criminal investigation or for any other improper reason."

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Associated Press writer Jennifer Loven contributed to this report.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 04:28:50 PM »
This is going to be fun.  ;D


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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 04:30:43 PM »
This is going to be fun.  ;D



 ;D

yep

I hope it get s real ugly.  I'm not sure why..... ::)

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 04:39:28 PM »
;D

yep

I hope it get s real ugly.  I'm not sure why..... ::)

it would be great to have that fat fuck Rove under oath

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2007, 04:46:39 PM »
it would be great to have that fat fuck Rove under oath

If he's got nothing to hide then why is Bush so opposed to him under oath?  ::) btw, I just saw Bush speaking on CNN and he looked flustered.  ;D Think he knows it'll be hard to bullshit out of this one.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 05:18:29 PM »
If he's got nothing to hide then why is Bush so opposed to him under oath?  ::) btw, I just saw Bush speaking on CNN and he looked flustered.  ;D Think he knows it'll be hard to bullshit out of this one.

Maybe he can hire George Steph-a-what-ever to spin his way out of this   8)

Yeah,  it looks bad,  it looks like we have some things to hide.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 05:36:16 PM »
I hope it get s real ugly.  I'm not sure why..... ::)

I know why it's so satisfying to me...

Glenn Greenwald has been pointing out for years now that the neofascists' claims of unlimited Presidential power have long since put us in the midst of a Constitutional crisis - even if we have preferred not to acknowledge it. This press conference is the Naked Lunch moment for this administration - "when everyone sees what is on the end of every fork".

Bush has just effectively told 94 senators - all the ones who voted to take away the shiny new toy they gave him in the PATRIOT Act, but which he wouldn't play with responsibly - to go fuck themselves. This must be disquieting even for Republicans - who would certainly prefer it if he would just throw the goddamned spic overboard already so they can go back to corruption-as-usual. Expect to see more senators with an (R) after their name call for Seedy Gonzales to step down - starting as early as tomorrow.

Presumably Bush is counting on his Supreme Court appointments to deliver the quid pro quo when the inevitable executive privilege claim goes in front of them. But that's the tricky thing about lifetime appointments. It makes it much harder to make sure they stay bought.  :) Whatever the odds, it's a huge bet. If he loses and defies the Supreme Court, that's an open declaration of dictatorship. Immediately following will be financial turmoil that will make the 1987 crash seem like a slow day at the office.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2007, 06:09:46 PM »
"Evidently, the President wants to shield virtually any communications that take place within the White House compound on the theory that all such talk contributes in some way, shape or form to the continuing success and harmony of an administration. Taken to its logical extreme, that position would make it impossible for citizens to hold a chief executive accountable for anything. He would have a constitutional right to cover up.... Most of us want no part of a president who is cynical enough to use the majesty of his office to evade the one thing he is sworn to uphold -- the rule of law."

Tony Snow - Op-Ed - St. Louis Post-Dispatch, March 29, 1998

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2007, 06:12:38 PM »
"The President's need for complete candor and objectivity from advisers calls for great deference from the court. However, when the privilege depends solely on the broad, undifferentiated claim of public interest in the confidentiality of such conversations, a confrontation with other values arises. Absent a claim of need to protect military, diplomatic, or sensitive national security secrets, we find it difficult to accept the argument that even the very important interest in confidentiality of Presidential communications is significantly diminished by production of such material for in camera inspection with all the protection that a district court will be obliged to provide."

The Supreme Court - ruling against Nixon's claim of executive privilege in U.S. v Nixon (1974)

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2007, 10:07:14 PM »
whose suggestion was it to fire the attorneys?

Tony Snow "Does it matter"?

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2007, 07:29:54 AM »
whose suggestion was it to fire the attorneys?

Tony Snow "Does it matter"?


When some reporter asks Snow why executive privilege was scoundrel time for Clinton but A-OK for George, it should be the tap-dancing performance of a lifetime.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2007, 05:35:00 PM »
whose suggestion was it to fire the attorneys?

Tony Snow "Does it matter"?


Typical current W.H. answer.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2007, 05:44:09 PM »
When some reporter asks Snow why executive privilege was scoundrel time for Clinton but A-OK for George, it should be the tap-dancing performance of a lifetime.

Tony Snow was a columnist who ripped Clinton a new one during the 1998 fiasco for it.

Seems he's changed his mind since then.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2007, 06:06:56 PM »
Tony Snow was a columnist who ripped Clinton a new one during the 1998 fiasco for it.

Seems he's changed his mind since then.

To be perfectly truthful, I hated Clinton when he was Pres. Looking back, compared to this MORON (Bush) Clinton looks like the Pope.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2007, 06:08:48 PM »
Clinton was a selfish pig who did some shady shit.

But he avoided big wars.

Cheney and company were negotiating with the Taleban from way back in 1996 for afghan oil pipeline/access.  What's happening 11 years later was started back then.

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Re: Bush Warns Dems to Take Offer in Firings
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2007, 06:17:09 PM »
Clinton was a selfish pig who did some shady shit.

But he avoided big wars.

Cheney and company were negotiating with the Taleban from way back in 1996 for afghan oil pipeline/access.  What's happening 11 years later was started back then.

I agree.

I'm NOT a Michael Moore fan, but recently viewed his 9-11 movie.

Incredibily accurate looking back.

Looks like he had Bush nailed from the beginning.