Milos Sarcev's Seminar: May 19 2007: 11am sharp

[knny187]

So Shawn won 2 shows and I won one...He got me . Should I also mentioned that he turned pro 4 years before me?

Lets not forget that you were pretty lucky to get your card   

If you didn't get it when you did....you most likely never would

 

Olympia placing is already discussed...you (and more notably Shawn) never seem to respond to my question why didn't he EVER get the courage to compete in Europe (somewhat my home turf).
Plus - would you want to predict that would have happened if I competed with Shawn in Yugoslavia...with Yugoslavian judges (or now in Serbia with Serbian judges?)...

Let's see....I think that I mentioned that 'maybe' he preferred taking breaks between contests.....maybe your "brilliance" is making it difficult to remember that.

 

As far as lack of brain cells - I am all up for yet another challenge - from you (or Shawn ) - intellectually...(as this time physical challenge wouldn't prove a thing...)
Up for it?

Sure...try remembering what I post...then maybe I will accept an intellectual challenge

 

 

Come to my seminar - and we can do that right before or after...

would that be...before or after the insulin treatment?

 
 

As far as Shawn NOT doing the shows...taking a breaks...etc - tells you how "professional" he truly is...
As I mentioned - EVERY year after the Olympia it was European Grand Prix tour where top guy could possibly make 100K in prize money... 

Well let's see....Arnold Schwarzenegger, Frank Zane & Franco Columbo...are 3 guys that once became Mr Olympia...only did Olympia's.  Why is that?  Unless I'm wrong...there was 'other' contests they could have done...but didn't.  I guess they weren't "professional".


 

Shawn NEVER took the chance...
Do you wander why?  

Wander?

 

Even great Lee Haney did European show POST Olympia...and Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates also wasn't afraid to enter numerous times - and put his title on line...
Ronnie did God knows how many times...and they made great amount of prize money...just because they are CONFIDENT enough to accept the challenges...unlike our honorable and courageous Sugar Shawn... 

Until Lee Haney...most Pro's didn't.  Samir did & so did Dickerson for 1 or 2 shows...but that was it before Lee.  I don't see where Shawn did anything out of the ordinary.

 

And let's not even mention the true fans...
His European fans would certainly like to have the opportunity to see him compete...but AMEN...balls don't grow on the tree...(last time I checked)...

And as you believe that in 20 years people are going to talk about how great Shawn was...I highly doubt that...Few people talk about it even now...
But - in my case they will not need to talk in "past tense"...as I will still be just as good as I was...or am - every day of my life... 

I will bet any amount of money....that Shawn will be inducted in Weider's Body Building Hall of Fame....

but unfortunately...you won't.


 

I am a bodybuilder by choice...and that is the biggest difference...between me and Shawn.

Funny part is....Shawn didn't have to be...& he still was more succesful than you....that must burn you up.

 

[Shawn Ray]

Jealousy, is truly a Bitch huh Milos.
I didn't "Have" to compete for Prize money in Europe to beat guys I was beating regularly in the Mr. Olympia.
I went on TOUR each and every year I competed in the Olympia "Natural" enjoying my fans, the world and making money "CASH MONEY"
I never competed on the Pro Tour because I didnt have to and I still got mine, while representing 7 companies at one time most of those years and that is reallly what kills you.
72 shows, a $10,000.00 victory and not much else except to show for your efforts but scars on both biceps from your Synthol injections
Last Rights being read to you by a Priest from the shot your wife gave you in the triceps
Insulin shock and shot receptors from drug abuse.
Please, stop the comparisions with me regarding competitions.
Enjoy your suspension and failing gym business while you can.
You sound like a lost puppy howling in the wind about someone you could never be  and never will be:-*
As for your Seminar, I'll pass the same song and dance, remember I trained with you and learned nothing except that you can talk a hell of a lot more than I can and that is saying something!
Kick out of your gym.........Yea Ok, you can fool your Internet boys but the Truth will set you free! D'oh

[sgt. d]

ahahaha knny is "owning" milos badly in this thread.


also what is max rep whining about

[Sir William Idol]

as far as records and physique wise, yes shawn was better


however...


that was then, this is now.  what matters to us on getbig is what information we can get out of pros to improve our own physiques, and so far shawn hasnt given us shit. he bitches like a little fucking girl. milos, on the other hand, is putting on a seminar for free.  thats all i care about. 

both took their own genetics to the limit, and the placings fell where they did.  milos, however, isnt an arrogant prick and is opening his gym to anyone...providing them free advice...free supplements...a chance to meet and talk to other pros...


shawn what have you done for us lately?


THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Milos_Sarcev]

Lets not forget that you were pretty lucky to get your card   

If you didn't get it when you did....you most likely never would

 
Let's see....I think that I mentioned that 'maybe' he preferred taking breaks between contests.....maybe your "brilliance" is making it difficult to remember that.

 
Sure...try remembering what I post...then maybe I will accept an intellectual challenge...

 

 
would that be...before or after the insulin treatment?

 
 
Well let's see....Arnold Schwarzenegger, Frank Zane & Franco Columbo...are 3 guys that once became Mr Olympia...only did Olympia's.  Why is that?  Unless I'm wrong...there was 'other' contests they could have done...but didn't.  I guess they weren't "professional".


 
Wander?

 
Until Lee Haney...most Pro's didn't.  Samir did & so did Dickerson for 1 or 2 shows...but that was it before Lee.  I don't see where Shawn did anything out of the ordinary.

 

I will bet any amount of money....that Shawn will be inducted in Weider's Body Building Hall of Fame....

but unfortunately...you won't.


 
Funny part is....Shawn didn't have to be...& he still was more succesful than you....that must burn you up.

 

Good one Knny...I simply don't know what to answer first...

But let me try...

1) Lucky to get a pro card?
Lucky to qualify for Olympia 10 consecutive years since I turn pro?
Lucky to beat just about everyone at one time or another...(for granted - I never managed to beat Shawn...but it is kind of hard when I had to deal with his house guests as the Olympia judges - don't you think?
Lucky is my middle name - BTW...as I must say - I am the luckiest guy on Earth...and loving - every day of my life...


2) Oh yes...I heard you that Shawn was "taking the breaks" between the shows...But, what happens only days AFTER the Olympia - when he is still in shape and all of us are going to new challenges...new competitions...In need for a break...after working a FULL DAY (I guess 1 in 365 days is enough...After all - who needs to work more than that?)

He would rather ask Dorian to pay him $1000.00 for the guest posing at the British Grand Prix - than taking the chance to win MORE in the prize money? He was already in England...at the show...but 5 extra days of dieting was...Oh yeah...we've just established: TOO MUCH...

Certainly he was never afraid to be challenged...Never...not once in his 15 years as a pro...

Both, you and Shawn can hide behind "taking the break" theory...or should I call it:EXCUSE...
Among other pros he was laughing stock as "chicken" who would be so loud and proud when Mr. Kentacky Fry is around (read: his personall friends who just happen to be Olympia judges...)
And when Mr. Kentacky is not around...well - what do they say: chicken is what chicken does... oh yeah...you called it a "taking a break" as over $100000.00 in prize money is just not enough to get chicken's interest...

3) I will try to remember your posts...after all how could I ever forget so much sense and brilliance in such a short time?
Now...are you coming to my seminar?

We can organize little intellectual challenge for you...But first, you must surpass my 9 year old daughter...
She'll have few tests with you...unless you will follow example of your idol by "taking a break" and avoiding the obvious (read: embarrassment... )

4) As far as "insulin" I really don't know where are you heading with that...but sure it sounds like "you got me again " (like Shawn does - every time...Sadly - only in his own mind...)

5) "Well let's see....Arnold Schwarzenegger, Frank Zane & Franco Columbo...are 3 guys that once became Mr Olympia...only did Olympia's.  Why is that?"   - You got some great examples... ...Go to their and than IFBB contest history statistics...and than say again what you meant by that

6)  "Wander?"
Oh my...You got me again .
I guess I better use SPELL CHECK next time around...otherwise I might look...stupid ...

7) "Until Lee Haney...most Pro's didn't.  Samir did & so did Dickerson for 1 or 2 shows...but that was it before Lee.  I don't see where Shawn did anything out of the ordinary"
But - off course...you don't see any of Shawn's faults...do you?
Samir did...Dickerson did...Lee Haney did...Dorian did...Ronnie Coleman did...Jay Cutler did...Oh wait...these guys do have one thing in common...something that Shawn certainly didn't...a SANDOW... ...SELF ESTEEM...CONFIDENCE...BA LLS...COURAGE...COMMON SENSE...Should I continue ?....But than again - you said "anything out of the ordinary"... Sorry...you did make another STRONG POINT ...Don't you think?

OK...Let's see if you are "man of your word" - I'll take you up on your offer ("I will bet any amount of money....that Shawn will be inducted in Weider's Body Building Hall of Fame....but unfortunately...you won't.")

How does 50 grand sounds to you?
Or should we go for a cool 100?
I'll bet you ANYTIME...or..this is just another oneof your typical: "I have all the balls in the world as I am hiding BEHIND my "USER NAME"..."

Milos and others that post with their REAL NAME are cowards...contrary to me... ...

[Milos_Sarcev]

Jealousy, is truly a Bitch huh Milos.
I didn't "Have" to compete for Prize money in Europe to beat guys I was beating regularly in the Mr. Olympia.
I went on TOUR each and every year I competed in the Olympia "Natural" enjoying my fans, the world and making money "CASH MONEY"
I never competed on the Pro Tour because I didnt have to and I still got mine, while representing 7 companies at one time most of those years and that is reallly what kills you.
72 shows, a $10,000.00 victory and not much else except to show for your efforts but scars on both biceps from your Synthol injections
Last Rights being read to you by a Priest from the shot your wife gave you in the triceps
Insulin shock and shot receptors from drug abuse.
Please, stop the comparisions with me regarding competitions.
Enjoy your suspension and failing gym business while you can.
You sound like a lost puppy howling in the wind about someone you could never be  and never will be:-*
As for your Seminar, I'll pass the same song and dance, remember I trained with you and learned nothing except that you can talk a hell of a lot more than I can and that is saying something!
Kick out of your gym.........Yea Ok, you can fool your Internet boys but the Truth will set you free! D'oh

Jealousy, is truly a Bitch huh Milos.

Is this what you call it?
Now, who would know that better than you Shawn?
Jealousy is your first name (Shawn, Jealousy...you see the difference?)...and Envy is your last name...and everything you do is stamped with your signature (first and last name)...

I, on another hand don't even have a "jealous gene"...and if that is not apparent from my posts (and everything that I say or do) than I don't have anything else to say .

One thing that you should have realized by now is: I love people...
Yes, even you...
Just because you are jealous, arrogant, selfish, disrespectful, greedy, narcissistic, attention-seeking ....etc ....etc ....etc ....etc - prick doesn't mean I want anything bad to happen to you...

Contrary to you - (as I said only a million times) I am inspired with SUCCESS stories and not with missfortunes, tragedies...and things that make you (and people alike) happy...

Passing of my neighboors cow is just as sad day in my household as it is in my neighboor's...in comparison to you - who would celebrate "the saint beef day" while asking your neighboor if he could spare some steaks...

While I don't see any changes in you even remotely possible for a long while...I am convinced that sooner or later you WILL understand the meaning of life...and ONLY than you might even recognize what I am doing - for quite some time now...

As your Lord would only whisper in your ears (as is it's afraid to just bluntly tell you - in fear that you would not listen...hence possibly NOT be Lord's follower as you like to claim...after your "born again" episode...): life is about giving...("give and you shall receive" - truth of life which is exactly my way of living...and I truly enjoy EVERY SINGLE DAY...hence - try not to even sleep - just NOT to miss anything life has to offer...)

I think I don't really need to say anything else to your "oh so beautiful expose above"...but to point out your NATURAL comment (I competed in the Olympia "Natural" enjoying my fans, the world and making money "CASH MONEY")...

Enough said...

The shame is - you keep repeating this for quite some time and I had so many people asking me if that could be a truth...and I would only tell them: CONSIDER THE SOURCE...

One day Shawn...when you find out what HONOR, STRENGTH, PRIDE...and YOUR WORD  should mean...you will realize how to respect me and people like me...Until than - continue with your "best shots" mentioning synthol...and my jealousy...

I already told you that it is kind of ridiculous suggesting that LION KING (me ) wishes to be stinky RAT (you  )...thus: "You sound like a lost puppy howling in the wind about someone you could never be  and never will be" is kind of comical...don't you think...

It really "kills me" that you were (PAST TENSE) supposedly representing 7 companies...All for a chump change contract - LONG EXPIRED, canceled...etc...

Is it maybe my success that kills you  now as "what goes around comes around" came to materialize?
I have 7 companies  and REPRESENT myself...contrary to your LIFELONG "about to be dumped" employee status...

And as far as: "Kick out of your gym.........Yea Ok, you can fool your Internet boys but the Truth will set you free! D'oh"...
my Internet boys already know that you are kicked out TWICE by me...and second time for good...as after first time I did want to give you a second chance (fool me once...fool me twice...)...
Besides, I think I was much nicer than Greg Reed - who knocked you out  :'(in the same gym - as he couldn't stand your arrogant "I am God's gift to Humanity" attitude you were presenting on the day to day bases - until he took you down from the cloud nine...and got you back to reality...

Your reality is quite sad...but that is not my thing to say...It is your thing to realize (which I am sure you will...if you already didn't...)

Now - try to answer EVERYTHING as I do every time...
It will make our conversation so much more interesting for a listeners...

[sgt. d]

I've never seen anybody that talks as much as Milos.

[knny187]

Good one Knny...I simply don't know what to answer first...

You got quite the meltdown brewing....I hope you're atleast not holding your breathe when you type all of this out.

 

But let me try...

1) Lucky to get a pro card?
Lucky to qualify for Olympia 10 consecutive years since I turn pro?
Lucky to beat just about everyone at one time or another...(for granted - I never managed to beat Shawn...but it is kind of hard when I had to deal with his house guests as the Olympia judges - don't you think?
Lucky is my middle name - BTW...as I must say - I am the luckiest guy on Earth...and loving - every day of my life...

Yes...you heard me correct & you're not as dumb as you look....I said "Lucky".

Your old pals from San Diego all said one word after you won...."lucky"

2) Oh yes...I heard you that Shawn was "taking the breaks" between the shows...But, what happens only days AFTER the Olympia - when he is still in shape and all of us are going to new challenges...new competitions...In need for a break...after working a FULL DAY (I guess 1 in 365 days is enough...After all - who needs to work more than that?)

Well lets see...most every Pro that has done the GP's all say the same thing...."It takes ALOT out of you...especially the traveling, maintaining diet/training & sleep".

I guess since you've done sooo many....you're Superman.

He would rather ask Dorian to pay him $1000.00 for the guest posing at the British Grand Prix - than taking the chance to win MORE in the prize money? He was already in England...at the show...but 5 extra days of dieting was...Oh yeah...we've just established: TOO MUCH...

No different than your old bud Vic Richards.  He didn't have to make money competing....he did it with guest appearances.  Back in the day....he was making more money than you...& he wasn't even competing.  That must make you jealous...especially coming from someone that is a bodybuilder by choice.

 

Certainly he was never afraid to be challenged...Never...not once in his 15 years as a pro...

Both, you and Shawn can hide behind "taking the break" theory...or should I call it:EXCUSE...
Among other pros he was laughing stock as "chicken" who would be so loud and proud when Mr. Kentacky Fry is around (read: his personall friends who just happen to be Olympia judges...)
And when Mr. Kentacky is not around...well - what do they say: chicken is what chicken does... oh yeah...you called it a "taking a break" as over $100000.00 in prize money is just not enough to get chicken's interest...

I think it's called Kentucky Mr "Brilliant Wonder"

 

Not that it matters to me....but you just made yourself look like a Kentucky Fried Idiot

 

3) I will try to remember your posts...after all how could I ever forget so much sense and brilliance in such a short time?
Now...are you coming to my seminar?

No...why would I want to?

Are you passing out insulin?  Then maybe I might reconsider.

 

We can organize little intellectual challenge for you...But first, you must surpass my 9 year old daughter...
She'll have few tests with you...unless you will follow example of your idol by "taking a break" and avoiding the obvious (read: embarrassment... )

Sure...I'll take the intellectual challenge of surpassing your 9 year old daughter....

if you'll take up the intellectual challenge against my 1 year old Rottweiler.  I will bet by the time he makes you look foolish & silly, he'll bend you over & grasp the back of your neck with his teeth & hump your brains out & show you complete domination.

but then again....

you might actually enjoy that sort of thing.

 

4) As far as "insulin" I really don't know where are you heading with that...but sure it sounds like "you got me again " (like Shawn does - every time...Sadly - only in his own mind...)

What ever do you mean?

 

5) "Well let's see....Arnold Schwarzenegger, Frank Zane & Franco Columbo...are 3 guys that once became Mr Olympia...only did Olympia's.  Why is that?"   - You got some great examples... ...Go to their and than IFBB contest history statistics...and than say again what you meant by that

So wait....are you saying there was NO other contest they could have entered?  Look back in the history books Mishko.  You will find that it didn't stop Sergio from doing 'other contests'.  How about Ken Waller?  He didn't win the overall, but he did win the Heavy Weight class & went on to other shows besides the Olympia.  Are you telling me that Frank Zane couldn't have done other shows?  How about Franco Columbo?  All 3 guys (Zane, Arnold, & Franco) had the ability to do an IFBB Grand Prix.  They were all competing while those shows were in existence.  Hell even Larry Scott, Mike Mentzer, & Ed Corney did GP's or other Pro Shows beside the Olympia.  I guess Lou Ferrigno is another Chicken...because he wouldn't do other shows besides the Olympia or Masters Olympia? 

Funny part is...Lou made more money "not competing" & doing guest appearances than you ever will competing with your "72 Pro Shows".

6)  "Wander?"
Oh my...You got me again .
I guess I better use SPELL CHECK next time around...otherwise I might look...stupid ...

I don't think any amount of spell check is going to help you look or appear smarter....

but it's worth a try.

 

7) "Until Lee Haney...most Pro's didn't.  Samir did & so did Dickerson for 1 or 2 shows...but that was it before Lee.  I don't see where Shawn did anything out of the ordinary"
But - off course...you don't see any of Shawn's faults...do you?
Samir did...Dickerson did...Lee Haney did...Dorian did...Ronnie Coleman did...Jay Cutler did...Oh wait...these guys do have one thing in common...something that Shawn certainly didn't...a SANDOW... ...SELF ESTEEM...CONFIDENCE...BA LLS...COURAGE...COMMON SENSE...Should I continue ?....But than again - you said "anything out of the ordinary"... Sorry...you did make another STRONG POINT ...Don't you think?

So Frank Zane had no balls?  3 time Mr Olympia & IFBB Hall of Fame inductee?

I guess your right....he sucked

OK...Let's see if you are "man of your word" - I'll take you up on your offer ("I will bet any amount of money....that Shawn will be inducted in Weider's Body Building Hall of Fame....but unfortunately...you won't.")

How does 50 grand sounds to you?
Or should we go for a cool 100?
I'll bet you ANYTIME...or..this is just another oneof your typical: "I have all the balls in the world as I am hiding BEHIND my "USER NAME"..."

Milos and others that post with their REAL NAME are cowards...contrary to me... ...

Even if I saw you in Person Mishko....I still would say this stuff to your face.

Why wouldn't I otherwise?

[Shawn Ray]

EPIC Milos Meltdown, can you say, "Back off the TEST?"

[knny187]

EPIC Milos Meltdown, can you say, "Back off the TEST?"

easy.....we don't want to set him in a rage

[The Squadfather]

as far as records and physique wise, yes shawn was better


however...


that was then, this is now.  what matters to us on getbig is what information we can get out of pros to improve our own physiques, and so far shawn hasnt given us shit. he bitches like a little fucking girl. milos, on the other hand, is putting on a seminar for free.  thats all i care about. 

both took their own genetics to the limit, and the placings fell where they did.  milos, however, isnt an arrogant prick and is opening his gym to anyone...providing them free advice...free supplements...a chance to meet and talk to other pros...


shawn what have you done for us lately?


THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

BINGO!!!!

[Stavios]

Come on guys, Shawn gave us a lot of good advices !

I remember great posts from Shawn where he was helping a lot of getbiggers

posts such as:

" Shawn, what was you favorite exercises to bring those deep cuts in your back ? "

and Shawn then replied:

" You can find everything you want to know in : THE FINAL COUNTDOWN  Yo !!!!
you can buy it on ShawnRay.com

if you don't wanna buy it, than you can go fuck yourself !
CASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NNG !!!!!! $$$$$  "

Shawn gives back a lot to the fans
he isn't here to promote his shits like most of the other pros

[The Squadfather]

Come on guys, Shawn gave us a lot of good advices !

I remember great posts from Shawn where he was helping a lot of getbiggers

posts such as:

" Shawn, what was you favorite exercises to bring those deep cuts in your back ? "

and Shawn then replied:

" You can find everything you want to know in : THE FINAL COUNTDOWN  Yo !!!!
you can buy it on ShawnRay.com

if you don't wanna buy it, than you can go fuck yourself !
CASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NNG !!!!!! $$$$$

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Stavios]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

hey what can you say, "Strength & Honor" is his motto !

[The Squadfather]

hey what can you say, "Strength & Honor" is his motto !

do you think Shawn ended his letters "strength and honor' to his mom in prison, Staveeeeeee?

[Stavios]

do you think Shawn ended his letters "strength and honor' to his mom in prison, Staveeeeeee?

LMAO !!!

I am sure it was a mistake and she really didn't deserve to be there tho.
Shawn and his family are too honest to to things like that 

in fact I am sure that it was a settup made by Milos 

[The Squadfather]

LMAO !!!

I am sure it was a mistake and she really didn't deserve to be there tho.
Shawn and his family are too honest to to things like that 

in fact I am sure that it was a settup made by Milos 

hahahahaha, maybe Shawn told the DEA about his mom while they had tea and crumpets together.

[Stavios]

hahahahaha, maybe Shawn told the DEA about his mom while they had tea and crumpets together.

HAHAHAHA YES !!!!

The agent was like: " Mr.Ray, where is the coke "

Shawn: "Well.... maybe if you give me 20 bucks..... I could tell you that everything is in the trunk of my mom's car! "

[chaos]

Stavi, Squad..............


Goddamn you guys are funny

[Stavios]

Hey God forgive everything ! 

[Max_Rep]

Come on guys, Shawn gave us a lot of good advices !

I remember great posts from Shawn where he was helping a lot of getbiggers

posts such as:

" Shawn, what was you favorite exercises to bring those deep cuts in your back ? "

and Shawn then replied:

" You can find everything you want to know in : THE FINAL COUNTDOWN  Yo !!!!
you can buy it on ShawnRay.com

if you don't wanna buy it, than you can go fuck yourself !
CASHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII NNG !!!!!! $$$$$  "

Shawn gives back a lot to the fans
he isn't here to promote his shits like most of the other pros

I remember hearing about him telling Chick and Tom Prince to move away from his booth because people couldn't see him to pay $20 for his pictures. 

[The Squadfather]

I remember hearing about him telling Chick and Tom Prince to move away from his booth because people couldn't see him to pay $20 for his pictures. 

if i just happened to take a picture of Shawn that Lou Ferrigno happened to be in just by coincidence do you think i would be out 40 bucks, Max?

[Stavios]

I remember hearing about him telling Chick and Tom Prince to move away from his booth because people couldn't see him to pay $20 for his pictures. 

you must be wrong !
Shawn would never do that, he doesn't care about the money

his priority is his fans  

[The Squadfather]

you must be wrong !
Shawn would never do that, he doesn't care about the money

his priority is his fans  

if i was Lou Ferrigno i would call Shawn and find out what his schedule is for guest appearances and then show up and stick to Shawn like glue so everybody who snaps a picture of them would be out 40 bucks, then Shawn could get a cut of Lou's profits.

[chaos]

if i just happened to take a picture of Shawn that Lou Ferrigno happened to be in just by coincidence do you think i would be out 40 bucks, Max?

nah, only 20 bucks Squad, Sean Rey would be too busy snitching to Lou about drugs in someones trunk. Lou on the other hand would be chasing you down for his $20!!