Want to COMPETE!

[Lugar]

I;m fucking seeking help already for the 10,00000 time....just sometimes I still get depressed....listen dude, I've followed what a few guys have said to a tee....I'm lamming every bit of 4k in cals, doing no cardio, training my ass off....so when the abs fade, or look coverered up in the om, tats gotta be normal to feel that way, agreed?

[trulytoned]

no its not normal to feel that way, if you already feel this depressed a couple days into wait for a month down the road when you have a little bit of bloat.
You sound almost suicidal the way you talk.

[Lugar]

Suicidal?  Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention? 

[Luv2Hurt]

Suicidal?  Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention? 

No I think it is probally just fat starting to acumulate, you better be careful.

[Lugar]

sorta funny......see everyone smile....

[Arnold jr]

Suicidal?  Hardly.....just depressing when you look at your aabs flxed and they are crisp in the am, then the night comes around and they are vanished......wwater retention? 

It should not be depressing, you should be happy about it. Why? It takes solid weight gain to gain muscle...if you're not gaining weight, then you're not gaining muscle...some fat comes with it. How much fat is determined by how you do things as well as your genetic makeup, but at some level it is inevitable. In your case, I don't think "too much fat" is going to be a problem.

Now, post any questions you want, but in the name of sanity, stop talking and worrying about your abs.

[Lugar]

just depressing tolose your abs when youve had em and this deisease for 5 years.........My face looks fuller......the only thing is I'm REALLY not eating that much, it's 100% clean, and my strength is weel, weak but improving......it would be a whole different story if

#1 I was eating swhit..........all day fast food, pizza etc.........
#2 my strength was going through the roof

The only good thing is I'm doing NO cardio and till holding on to a faded 4 pack.......plus I eat really late, my bars, and snacks, which I could do if I was cutting....but really, the scale is moving, and I'm only getting in 4 good meals...........tell, me....looking at what Ive eaten every day since we first spoke, should the scale really be soaring???
730          PRO        CARB        FAT       
1/2 CUP OATS          5.00        27.00        3.00        150.00
1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS           18.00        -          -          225.00
2 EGG WHITES          6.00        1.00        1.00        80.00
1 banana          1.50        30.00        1.40        125.00
2 pcs toast or englis muffin          4.00        30.00        3.00        160.00
                                     
          34.50        88.00        8.40        740.00
                           
10                           
3oz Flank Steak          21.00        -          3.75        135.00
4oz Buffalo         36                 3.00       180   
1  brown rice          3.00        45.00        3.00        210.00
          60.00        45.00        9.75        525.00
                           
1pm                           
5oz chicken          33.75        -          3.13        162.50
1 CUP OATS          10.00        54.00        6.00        300.00
          43.75        54.00        9.13        462.50

[Lugar]

2 PCS TOAST          3.00        30.00        3.00        125.00
SALAD          2.00        30.00        3.00        150.00
can on tuna          43.00        -          2.00        150.00
                           
          45.00    0    30.00          5.00    0    300.00


1/2 CUP EGG BEATERS          12.00        1.00        -          65.00
20 almonds          10.00        10.00        18.00        200.00
1 SCOOPS BLEND          20.00        5.00        2.00        120.00
          42.00        16.00    0    20.00    0    385.00

[Lugar]

See, so if I'm gonna lose some cuts, so be it, just want to be strong!   I want weight gain = strength gain!!!

[Selene]

good luck to you in attaining your goals

[Lugar]

text msg warning.......im amazed how quickly  abs gone   I look   like 12 %172lbs........gotta   cheat sll werkend     need some pushing

[Lugar]

I was jsut thinking, no cardio is a step (even though I feel like a slg without it) I'll save it for when I cut...I need 50lbs over these next 2 years....going to start having to eat whatever doesnt move.....I also need my cheat meals for the extra cals...suppose to get in 1 a week......meals, not days........help me betwwen a box of fig newtons, oreos and chock. strawberry qucik (1 liter).........I'm just in the mood for salty and or sweet....no wings or fast food...I want a good pm, post training, prebed snack......a thick casein shake and some quick?   Anyone in?  I need the cals, just dont want them to be sloppy cals!!

[Lugar]

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[Lugar]

Amazing what 3,.500 cals can do in one week...I look like (abs anyway) that I'm 12%, skinny fat look sucks!  174, highest I've been in ahwile.....gues I have to let it go and finally do as you guys say and cheat this weekend.....pound hard.

[mavsluva]

Amazing what 3,.500 cals can do in one week...I look like (abs anyway) that I'm 12%, skinny fat look sucks!  174, highest I've been in ahwile.....gues I have to let it go and finally do as you guys say and cheat this weekend.....pound hard.

You posted this yesterday on another board:

"4,000 cals a day for 3 weeks now man........hardly something to laugh at......although I still have those  figs and oreos.........just dont get really hunfry till after training then its too late......."

Do you eat more on other boards than you do on this one?

[Lugar]

I never count cals Mav......its an approx.  a minimum of 3500k and a max of 4k......somedays I may not get all my night meals in (80% of my food consumption comes post training, prebed from 5pm to 1am.....sometimes, like after heavy deads, I lose the urge to eat.......

[mavsluva]

I never count cals Mav......its an approx.  a minimum of 3500k and a max of 4k......somedays I may not get all my night meals in (80% of my food consumption comes post training, prebed from 5pm to 1am.....sometimes, like after heavy deads, I lose the urge to eat.......

If you do not count calories, then why do you post your daily diet that includes a daily caloric value.  Ironically, you will then question those daily calories and ask for feedback from the boards as to whether or not you should increase or decrease your calories, (total calories, individual meal calories, etc.).

But then again, you don't count calories...

[Lugar]

WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED..........

[mavsluva]

Okay. 

By the way:  I challenge you to post some new pictures.  Good pictures.  Not little thumbnails.  I, including most everyone on this board, want to see what the mirror says.  Because the mirror doesn't lie!