Author Topic: locking out vs not locking out which is harder (Read 6329 times)

The Squadfather · « **Reply #25 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:02:24 AM »

Quote from: sgt. d on April 08, 2007, 09:00:43 AM

So you dont think squadfather is fat? Be honest
Dont give me that lame bullshit that he is lean.

i never said i was lean dummy, i'm far from lean but i'm bigger than "mesomorph", let's see your pics, "sgt. D".

sgt. d · « **Reply #26 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:02:40 AM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on April 08, 2007, 07:30:51 AM

you just stick up for "meso" because you're skinny and black like him.

Yeah that must be it

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #27 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:03:35 AM »

on some excersises i think it actually more harmful than good when you lock oit..
ie behind the neck two arm dumbell extensions..... puts a lot of strain on the elbows..
.. but on the flip side i have seen a few bbing videos where i personally this the range of motion is questionable..
ie johnnie and branch... chest work out bfto 2005.. when they were were doing dumbell presses

JCL · « **Reply #28 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:10:18 AM »

You look very bad squatfather.....nothinug resembling a bodybuilder.
u resemble..a guy who drinks beers and orders pizza and watches movies at 11pm.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:15:56 AM »

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #30 on:** April 08, 2007, 10:43:43 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 08, 2007, 10:15:56 AM

Meso, what is your height and weight?

based on the pic in your avatar 315 for 8-10 seems unlikely
no need to bet..if you can, post a vid and it won't be a topic of discussion

on topic, one execise you can lock out in is tricep pressdown/extention.

finurface · « **Reply #31 on:** April 08, 2007, 11:12:20 AM »

is this a joke.... mesomorph posted his pics months (years?) ago and he absolutely burries fartfather ...

nodeal · « **Reply #32 on:** April 08, 2007, 11:36:21 AM »

yeah i really dont care how strong squadfather is he looks like shit his physique is awful. i dont think anybody would aim to look like that.

dragonheart · « **Reply #33 on:** April 08, 2007, 11:42:35 AM »

All SF needs to do is diet down for about 12 weeks and he'll look pretty good. Hes got the muscle, just needs to lose some fat.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 08, 2007, 08:52:08 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 08, 2007, 10:43:43 AM

Meso, what is your height and weight?

based on the pic in your avatar 315 for 8-10 seems unlikely
no need to bet..if you can, post a vid and it won't be a topic of discussion

on topic, one execise you can lock out in is tricep pressdown/extention.

the pic in my avatar...?
i have no avatar
its easy to talk for talkin sake..
i have no incenticvet to post any videos.. beause i have nothing to prove... to anyone...
i will put the videos up if i dont i am a liar
put the money up.. if i dont bench 315 for between 8 to 10 reps.. i will pay up..
if i do the money goes to charity..
...

and to add t that mix 145 dumbells presses...
.. what say you?

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #35 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:04:37 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 08, 2007, 08:52:08 PM

the pic in my avatar...?
i have no avatar
its easy to talk for talkin sake..
i have no incenticvet to post any videos.. beause i have nothing to prove... to anyone...
i will put the videos up if i dont i am a liar
put the money up.. if i dont bench 315 for between 8 to 10 reps.. i will pay up..
if i do the money goes to charity..
...

and to add t that mix 145 dumbells presses...
.. what say you?

what do you call that image under your name? I call it an avatar

you claimed to bench 315 for 8-10, I say that you can't

around here people claim many things which turn out not to be true..ok fine I will take your word for it..you are the man
we will also take adonis 225 for 125 reps and his physics degree claims also

from now on everyone is on the honor system

on a side note, why make claims if you have nothing to prove? attention?

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #36 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:09:08 PM »

also 145 DB press is not impressive..I have done DBs in a couple of months but I left off at 150s

tweaked my shoulder so I switched to pre-exhaution before lifting..shoulder feeling better..I think that I will start back on the DBs again

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #37 on:** April 08, 2007, 09:16:26 PM »

people keep phrasing this all wrong. everyone says not locking out is harder because it keeps constant tension on the muscle. well that's only true if you assume that locking out also means pausing.

here's a challenge for all of you "don't lock out" guys. lock out all your reps but continue the non-stop rep rhythm of not locking out. simple physics will tell you that since you're moving the bar further you'll do more work. more than that, you don't have to do any guesswork on whether or not you're going far enough.

that's why any time you have lifters coaching football players in preparation for the 225 rep-out they explain not to lock out and pause until you absolutely have to. the extra ROM tires you out more quickly.

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #38 on:** April 09, 2007, 05:16:50 AM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 08, 2007, 09:09:08 PM

also 145 DB press is not impressive..I have done DBs in a couple of months but I left off at 150s

tweaked my shoulder so I switched to pre-exhaution before lifting..shoulder feeling better..I think that I will start back on the DBs again

so u can do a 150 db press and i cant press 315 8 to 10 reps...
and why because 150 isnt inpressiive because YOU said so..
hahha ur funny i have posted vids onf me doin various lifts on here... those who have seen me lift know that 315 for 8 to 10 isnt a far stretch for me....
also those who have my hotmail messenger.. know the deal.... until you put some green up.... you have no talk... have u ever posted anythimng here
you are just like sarcasm.. and see what happened when he eventually posted his pics
..

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #39 on:** April 09, 2007, 05:22:36 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 09, 2007, 05:16:50 AM

so u can do a 150 db press and i cant press 315 8 to 10 reps...
and why because 150 isnt inpressiive because YOU said so..
hahha ur funny i have posted vids onf me doin various lifts on here... those who have seen me lift know that 315 for 8 to 10 isnt a far stretch for me....
also those who have my hotmail messenger.. know the deal.... until you put some green up.... you have no talk... have u ever posted anythimng here
you are just like sarcasm.. and see what happened when he eventually posted his pics
..

flat bench was never my strongest lifts. I never claimed anything about my build..I love food too much

why I am like sarcasm? I have never talk bad about your build. I think that you have a good one, lean with good good definition. I am sure that you are strong. but it is wrong for me to have doubts about your 315 for 8-10 reps?

once again I am not bashing you, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe everything does it?

forgive me for not wanting my pics on the web

Old_Rooster · « **Reply #40 on:** April 09, 2007, 05:38:19 AM »

Quote from: dragonheart on April 07, 2007, 02:52:27 PM

Why lockout and wear your joints out faster? Also it takes the tension off the muscle you are trying to work. I never do it. I also think its harder to not lockout because your muscles never get a rest

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #41 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:24:32 AM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 09, 2007, 05:22:36 AM

flat bench was never my strongest lifts. I never claimed anything about my build..I love food too much

why I am like sarcasm? I have never talk bad about your build. I think that you have a good one, lean with good good definition. I am sure that you are strong. but it is wrong for me to have doubts about your 315 for 8-10 reps?

once again I am not bashing you, but that doesn't mean that I have to believe everything does it?

forgive me for not wanting my pics on the web

.. ok fine i can respect that....
i just find it bizarre someone callin bullshit to a 315 bench???
anyway i will be puttin up stuff from time to time.. and yes i agree i love my food ay too much to diet as well...

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #42 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:31:22 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 09, 2007, 07:24:32 AM

.. ok fine i can respect that....
i just find it bizarre someone callin bullshit to a 315 bench???
anyway i will be puttin up stuff from time to time.. and yes i agree i love my food ay too much to diet as well...

where do you live? I am in the heart of carribean "heavy" food

I haven't DBd in a while but I sure that I can back to 150 pretty quickly..if you are in area let me, would make for a cool work out

Playboy · « **Reply #43 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:34:17 AM »

Locking out fully will only ruin your joints in time and will take the stress off the body part working.

PB

affy · « **Reply #44 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:35:16 AM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 08, 2007, 09:09:08 PM

also 145 DB press is not impressive..I have done DBs in a couple of months but I left off at 150s

tweaked my shoulder so I switched to pre-exhaution before lifting..shoulder feeling better..I think that I will start back on the DBs again

wtf you're calling bullshit on 315 flat bench, but say 145db presses are not impressive?

how does that work...I've seen a guy use 150lb db for 6 reps and his max bench is 405, and does 315 for a clean 12 reps

315 is impressive for a natural and its not impossible. I just find it funny that you think 315 for 8 reps is impossible but 145lb db isn't impressive

meso you look good man, and i dont doubt your lifts. But i DO however doubt that you only eat 2 meals a day with no breakfast. What exactly do these two meals consist of?

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:37:40 AM »

mmmright now i am in london man.. but i will be in miami later on down this year....
i actually thing dumbell pressing 145 or 150.. is harder than repping 315....
also when i firsted started working out i used to love barbell presses but as i got more exprerienced training wise i have come to respect and like dumbells more.. i havent maxed on a benchpress in like a yr and a hald.. back then i maxed 374. as u get holder answering the how much u bench uestion gets less and less important.. only thing i max on is deads nowadays

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:40:49 AM »

Quote from: affy on April 09, 2007, 07:35:16 AM

wtf you're calling bullshit on 315 flat bench, but say 145db presses are not impressive?

how does that work...I've seen a guy use 150lb db for 6 reps and his max bench is 405, and does 315 for a clean 12 reps

315 is impressive for a natural and its not impossible. I just find it funny that you think 315 for 8 reps is impossible but 145lb db isn't impressive

meso you look good man, and i dont doubt your lifts. But i DO however doubt that you only eat 2 meals a day with no breakfast. What exactly do these two meals consist of?

... wsup man thx...
i swear to u to meals a day.. on weekdays.. no breakfast..
the 2 meals are..
chicken and fries.. for lunch from a chicken hjoint close by..
then in the night after training...
caribean food...
rice and peas and chicken...
or ackee and saltfish with hard food like yams dumplins..
..

Tapeworm · « **Reply #47 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:47:16 AM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 09, 2007, 07:31:22 AM

where do you live? I am in the heart of carribean "heavy" food

Looks like Harlesden to me!

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #48 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:49:31 AM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 09, 2007, 07:40:49 AM

... wsup man thx...
i swear to u to meals a day.. on weekdays.. no breakfast..
the 2 meals are..
chicken and fries.. for lunch from a chicken hjoint close by..
then in the night after training...
caribean food...
rice and peas and chicken...
or ackee and saltfish with hard food like yams dumplins..
..

personally I think that ackee is the nastiest thing god ever invented. My girl and her family loves it (you must be part Jamaican)

lol, that food is so heavy that I have no doubts that you are getting enough calories

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #49 on:** April 09, 2007, 07:52:26 AM »

Meso, tell you what if I send you a vid a of me pressing 150 for a couple of reps. Will you promise to not post it and also send me a vid of you pressing 315 for 8-10

a gentlemens agreement?