Author Topic: The worlds best lifter ever in any strength sport or BB (Read 14218 times)

OneManGang · « **on:** April 12, 2007, 01:52:40 AM »

His name is:

Vasily Alexeev (Vasily Alekseyev)

Holder of 80 world records!!!! Drug free. Best strength athlete ever. Period.

More info:

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/l_athleteResult.asp?a_id=5

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/l_galleryResult.asp?a_id=5

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&mode=related&search= (A must view!!)

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2007, 01:58:25 AM »

Best ever ? Don't you think your being a little presumptuous ?

On a side note, I always think it's funny that people refer to certain athletes as the " Best Ever ". Instead of referring to somebody as the " Best Ever " I think it would be more Politically correct to refer to them as " Best Known ".

Jesus, i'm weird. But do any of you agree with me ?

OneManGang · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2007, 02:05:55 AM »

Name one strength athlete with more than 80 world records in a legit sport?

Smanjh · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2007, 02:06:33 AM »

Quote from: The_Iron_Disciple on April 12, 2007, 01:58:25 AM

Best ever ? Don't you think your being a little presumptuous ?

On a side note, I always think it's funny that people refer to certain athletes as the " Best Ever ". Instead of referring to somebody as the " Best Ever " I think it would be more Politically correct to refer to them as " Best Known ".

Jesus, i'm weird. But do any of you agree with me ?

Yes, because best ever implys there will be no better. Records are made to be broken, just ask Barry Bonds. Somewhere there is a guy a few cycles away from being the new best ever.

OneManGang · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2007, 02:12:26 AM »

Quote from: Smanjh on April 12, 2007, 02:06:33 AM

Yes, because best ever implys there will be no better. Records are made to be broken, just ask Barry Bonds. Somewhere there is a guy a few cycles away from being the new best ever.

Nonsense! Best ever means best there ever was. When someone else comes near breaking 80 world records, then we can talk. However it is not likely that there will be such person ever.

OneManGang · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2007, 04:43:29 AM »

Here are some pics of the great man. More pics coming later. Ok, he does not look like a bodybuilder, but he reigned longer in his sport than Yates and Coleman together (no disrespect intended)

bigbobs · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:03:25 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 04:43:29 AM

Here are some pics of the great man. More pics coming later. Ok, he does not look like a bodybuilder, but he reigned longer in his sport than Yates and Coleman together (no disrespect intended)

It doesn't make sense to be grouping "strength sport or BB" together in the same question. Looking at his physique there is no justification to even put his name in the same sentence as Yates or Coleman.

OneManGang · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:09:31 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 12, 2007, 05:03:25 AM

It doesn't make sense to be grouping "strength sport or BB" together in the same question. Looking at his physique there is no justification to even put his name in the same sentence as Yates or Coleman.

I am not comparing his physique with Yates or Coleman, but his merits. 2 olympic golds, 10 world championships, 9 european titles and 80 world records. Those merits beats anyone in BB or strength sport....and most other athletes too

MAXX · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:09:41 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 04:43:29 AM

Here are some pics of the great man. More pics coming later. Ok, he does not look like a bodybuilder, but he reigned longer in his sport than Yates and Coleman together (no disrespect intended)

pfffft

Matt Duvall can shoulder can shoulder press that for reps...

hazbin · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:09:54 AM »

Ed Coan broke over 100 powerlifting world records. at 240 lbs. he had the highest total of any man in history; the 3 men who held the highest total previous to him were 330-420 lbs. he beat his weight class records by 14.5 percent ( over 300 lbs. ). he could also be a possible candidate for the best lifter.

OneManGang · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:15:23 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on April 12, 2007, 05:09:41 AM

pfffft

Matt Duvall can shoulder can shoulder press that for reps...

Bullshxx! And even if he could, he would not be able to get the weight up from the floor to his shoulders.

PS! Alexeev's best clean and jerk was 256kg in 1977. Only 7.5kg behind the current world record by Iranian Hossein Rezazadeh from 2004 Athens olympics.

chris_mason · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:16:45 AM »

Alexeyev was a BEAST!

I agree that Ed Coan is in the same league in terms of dominance of his sport.

ButtonMan · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:17:54 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 05:15:23 AM

Bullshxx! And even if he could, he would not be able to get the weight up from the floor to his shoulders.

PS! Alexeev's best clean and jerk was 256kg in 1977. Only 7.5kg behind the current world record by Iranian Hossein Rezazadeh from 2004 Athens olympics.

Leonid Taranenko was robbed , his C&J is still the heaviest ever ..............

MAXX · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:20:28 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 05:15:23 AM

Bullshxx! And even if he could, he would not be able to get the weight up from the floor to his shoulders.

PS! Alexeev's best clean and jerk was 256kg in 1977. Only 7.5kg behind the current world record by Iranian Hossein Rezazadeh from 2004 Athens olympics.

OneManGang · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:24:28 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on April 12, 2007, 05:09:54 AM

Ed Coan broke over 100 powerlifting world records. at 240 lbs. he had the highest total of any man in history; the 3 men who held the highest total previous to him were 330-420 lbs. he beat his weight class records by 14.5 percent ( over 300 lbs. ). he could also be a possible candidate for the best lifter.

I have Coan at #3 after Alexeev and Naim Suleymanoglu (3 straight olympic golds and 68 world records). As #4, I have Leonid Taranenko, because of his 26 world records, olympic medals, world championships AND the heaviest clean&jerk ever at 266kg, and that for a guy who did not even start up as a superheavyweight.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:25:13 AM »

Quote from: hazbin on April 12, 2007, 05:09:54 AM

Ed Coan broke over 100 powerlifting world records. at 240 lbs. he had the highest total of any man in history; the 3 men who held the highest total previous to him were 330-420 lbs. he beat his weight class records by 14.5 percent ( over 300 lbs. ). he could also be a possible candidate for the best lifter.

Ed Coan was rightfully banned from the IPF for life, after failing drug tests not once, not twice, but three times.

Good lifter? Yeah. But he cheated, and got caught.

How many records would he have beaten had he played by the rules?

IMO, Ed Coan cannot be considered as the greatest lifter, since he broke records in a drug-tested federation while using drugs.

-Hedge

OneManGang · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:40:39 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on April 12, 2007, 05:25:13 AM

Ed Coan was rightfully banned from the IPF for life, after failing drug tests not once, not twice, but three times.

Good lifter? Yeah. But he cheated, and got caught.

How many records would he have beaten had he played by the rules?

IMO, Ed Coan cannot be considered as the greatest lifter, since he broke records in a drug-tested federation while using drugs.

-Hedge

You are absolutely right, but Coan was a great lifter regardless .....and most likely his competitors did the same.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:47:10 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 05:40:39 AM

You are absolutely right, but Coan was a great lifter regardless .....and most likely his competitors did the same.

No doubt. Most of them did. But there were probably some lifters, who squatted 100-200lbs less than Coan, who were clean. That guy may have ended up in the 8th or 10th place. But he, unknown to us unfortunately, is the better lifter IMO.

Why? Because he wouldn't cheat.

I recently listened to Coan on some PodRadiocast. I like his views on squatting depth and equipment.

-Hedge

bigbobs · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:56:34 AM »

Quote from: OneManGang on April 12, 2007, 05:09:31 AM

I am not comparing his physique with Yates or Coleman, but his merits. 2 olympic golds, 10 world championships, 9 european titles and 80 world records. Those merits beats anyone in BB or strength sport....and most other athletes too

I know you're not comparing their physiques, however you are making a comparison when you make the subject "best in any strength sport or bodybuilding" and then add that your guy dominated his sport for longer than Yates or Coleman dominated theirs. So if you group them together, don't be surprised if comparisons are made with their physiques. This is a dumb thread anyway, it's like saying, "who is the best player in basketball or hockey?" lol.

MONSTER_TRICEPS · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2007, 05:59:54 AM »

Quote from: ButtonMan on April 12, 2007, 05:17:54 AM

Leonid Taranenko was robbed , his C&J is still the heaviest ever ..............

Agree. And what about Antonio Krastev's snatch?

ButtonMan · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:04:39 AM »

Quote from: MONSTER_TRICEPS on April 12, 2007, 05:59:54 AM

Agree. And what about Antonio Krastev's snatch?

Same story

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/e_movie_theater.asp?vclip=60

OneManGang · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:08:04 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 12, 2007, 05:56:34 AM

I know you're not comparing their physiques, however you are making a comparison when you make the subject "best in any strength sport or bodybuilding" and then add that your guy dominated his sport for longer than Yates or Coleman dominated theirs. So if you group them together, don't be surprised if comparisons are made with their physiques. This is a dumb thread anyway, it's like saying, "who is the best player in basketball or hockey?" lol.

So now it is impossible to compare merits in an internet forum just because you say so? You are the dumb one if you are not able to compare the merits of Wayne Gretzky and Manute Bol....despite different sports.

OneManGang · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:11:06 AM »

Quote from: ButtonMan on April 12, 2007, 06:04:39 AM

Same story

http://www.chidlovski.net/liftup/e_movie_theater.asp?vclip=60

Looked like he could have done 220kg that day.... The best lift in history together with Taranenkos 266kg CJ. Amazing stuff.

alexxx · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2007, 06:58:24 AM »

Outstanding! True display of mental force.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #24 on:** April 12, 2007, 07:08:04 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on April 12, 2007, 05:03:25 AM

It doesn't make sense to be grouping "strength sport or BB" together in the same question. Looking at his physique there is no justification to even put his name in the same sentence as Yates or Coleman.

Coleman or Yates would be crushed if they tried to press the weights Alexeev did, that big Russian made both of those guys look like little bitches.