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« Reply #650 on: June 02, 2019, 08:12:27 AM »

So a priest sexually abusing boys means God's not real. Roll Eyes  That's some real deep thinking there.

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« Reply #651 on: June 02, 2019, 03:26:48 PM »

So a priest sexually abusing boys means God's not real. Roll Eyes  That's some real deep thinking there.

It adds to the contradiction Christians portray.

1st, Bill the deacon will tell you that God loves you, he knows how many hairs are on your head. He will go to great lengths to tell you all the great things god has done. He will tell you about prayer and encourage you to pray for this, and pray for that. He will qoute scripture that says if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can move mountains, ask and ye shall receive etc etc.  Bill and his flock will pray for Becky to get that job promotion, and for brother Ben to recover from that flu that's going around.."Thank you Jesus, thank you for the healing Ben is about to receive"   God is good all the time, thank god Ben got better....

Then when approached about childrens hospitals full of young cancer patients, many not living past 5 years old or asked about the child that was raped repeatedly by the priest for years and god did nothing, you hear "God is not the god of this world child...Satan has reign over it. Or God doesn't interfere in free will and the Priest had free will to rape that child. Or "It was gods will that Ben succumbed to the flu, but now he is in a better place. God has a plan you know..

The fact children are dying painful deaths from all manner of illnesses, and are being raped by representatives of god doesn't necessarily mean a god doesn't exist, but it certainly indicates to any rational person the Christian biblical god doesn't.  
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« Reply #652 on: June 03, 2019, 02:02:03 AM »

It adds to the contradiction Christians portray.

1st, Bill the deacon will tell you that God loves you, he knows how many hairs are on your head. He will go to great lengths to tell you all the great things god has done. He will tell you about prayer and encourage you to pray for this, and pray for that. He will qoute scripture that says if you have the faith of a mustard seed, you can move mountains, ask and ye shall receive etc etc.  Bill and his flock will pray for Becky to get that job promotion, and for brother Ben to recover from that flu that's going around.."Thank you Jesus, thank you for the healing Ben is about to receive"   God is good all the time, thank god Ben got better....

Then when approached about childrens hospitals full of young cancer patients, many not living past 5 years old or asked about the child that was raped repeatedly by the priest for years and god did nothing, you hear "God is not the god of this world child...Satan has reign over it. Or God doesn't interfere in free will and the Priest had free will to rape that child. Or "It was gods will that Ben succumbed to the flu, but now he is in a better place. God has a plan you know..

The fact children are dying painful deaths from all manner of illnesses, and are being raped by representatives of god doesn't necessarily mean a god doesn't exist, but it certainly indicates to any rational person the Christian biblical god doesn't.  
A person sinning proves God doesn't exist.  O.k..... gotcha.
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« Reply #653 on: June 03, 2019, 12:20:54 PM »

'Because We Need God's Help': Why Franklin Graham Asked Christians to Pray for President Trump
06-02-2019
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WASHINGTON – Franklin Graham called on Christians nationwide to pray for President Trump Sunday. The evangelist told CBN’s Faith Nation it’s not a political endorsement, but simply an opportunity to heed the Bible’s instruction and pray for the nation’s elected leader.   

“This is not a political endorsement,” Graham said. “It’s just simply praying for the President. The Bible instructs us to pray for those who are in authority.”

Graham also dismissed critics who accuse him of weaponizing prayer, saying “prayer is a weapon.”

Franklin Graham Asks Christians Nationwide to Pray for President Trump June 2
“We can go straight to the throne of grace,” he explained. “God hears prayer and answers prayer.”

Graham said "no president has been attacked" more than Trump and that "the only hope for him, and this nation is God."

"He's our President and if he succeeds we all benefit but if his enemies are allowed to destroy him and pull down the presidency it will hurt our entire nation," the evangelist said.

Graham posted a "thank-you" to everyone that prayed on Sunday, with this video:

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In a short four-minute video posted to his Facebook page Sunday, Graham thanked his followers for joining him to pray for President Donald J. Trump. He also explained how the Lord laid the idea on his heart and quoted the scripture from Psalm 9:9-10 which reads: “The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble. And those who know Your name will put their trust in You; for You, Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You."

"This isn't politics. This isn't an endorsement. It's praying for our commander-in-chief," Graham explains in the video. "He is the President of the United States and he needs our prayers. And God instructs us to do that." 

The evangelist then invited viewers to pray with him and then pray their own prayer "because we need God's help."

"Our Heavenly Father, You tell us in your word, the scripture, the Bible that we're to pray for those in authority. And that's why we're coming to you today," Graham prayed. "We ask for your favor on the President of the United States Donald J. Trump."

"Father, we would ask that you lead and guide the President as he makes decisions that affect not only all Americans but freedom loving people around the world," he continued. "Father, we just ask that you give him wisdom. Wisdom from you. Wisdom to deal with the problems we have at the border.  Wisdom to deal with the trading issues, trading partners, other nations. Wisdom as he meets with world leaders."

"This weekend he goes to London to meet with Her Majesty the Queen, Theresa May, their prime minister and the leadership of that nation, our closest ally," Graham said. "We ask that you guide each and every step that he takes."

"Father, we would also ask that you protect him from his enemies. Give him health and give him strength," he implored. "Today, I pray for the President's family, especially his wife Melania and his son Barron."

"Father, we're all flawed human beings. We're guilty of sin. We've all failed. We thank you that you sent your son Jesus Christ from heaven to this earth to take our sins upon the cross," Graham continued. "That he died and shed his blood for each and every one of us and that you raised him to life. And Father, we know that you will come into each and every heart who's willing to turn from their sins and put their faith and trust in your son Jesus Christ.  So we thank you for that."

"And Father, we pray for our nation. And Father, we ask that you would heal the heart of this country and that people would look to you for guidance and direction each and every day," he prayed. "And Father, we pray this in the name of your son Jesus Christ. May your will be done. Amen."

After concluding his prayer, Graham thanks the user for joining him and reminds everyone to continue to pray for the President and for those in authority -- all of them.

"They need our prayers. Only God can change the human heart," Graham said. "You can pass all the legislation. You can pass all the laws that you want, but only God can change the human heart. Our hearts need God in this country. And my prayer for the President today is that God would guide him and direct him -- but may He direct our country and may His will be done."

Kevin Jessip, chairman of the grassroots movement "Save The Persecuted Christians," is one of the 250 leaders who signed the proclamation asking all Christians to pray.

"I was really obliged & thankful for Franklin's stepping out on this issue so we joined," he told CBN News.

"I believe that the Word of God will be lifted up in this nation and that's what we need," he added. "We need the national dialogue to include the word of God."

250 Christian leaders signed the statement of faith before June 2, which reads: 

"We the undersigned are calling for June 2 to be a special Day of Prayer for the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, that God would protect, strengthen, embolden, and direct him.

"We believe our nation is at a crossroads, at a dangerous precipice. The only one who can fix our country's problems is God Himself, and we pray that God will bless our president and our nation for His glory."

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« Reply #654 on: June 03, 2019, 08:03:44 PM »

A person sinning proves God doesn't exist.  O.k..... gotcha.

If that's what you took from that, I obviously overestimated you,and wasted my time and at least an hour for you formulating that response...
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« Reply #655 on: June 04, 2019, 01:33:59 AM »

If that's what you took from that, I obviously overestimated you,and wasted my time and at least an hour for you formulating that response...
There are over 1 billion Christians on planet Earth, of course you can find bad people in that group.  How does that mean Christianity itself is bad?  Do you think Christianity caused those bad actions?
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« Reply #656 on: June 04, 2019, 11:49:14 AM »

There are over 1 billion Christians on planet Earth, of course you can find bad people in that group.  How does that mean Christianity itself is bad?  Do you think Christianity caused those bad actions?

Re read my post, I think you missed the point entirely. It had nothing to do with one bad anything. After that, I will be happy to further explain it if you still aren't clear
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« Reply #657 on: June 10, 2019, 10:07:25 AM »

Harvard Study Reveals Religious Upbringing Better for Kids’ Health, Well-Being
By TRISTAN JUSTICE
Published on October 11, 2018

A recent Harvard study reveals that children who had a religious upbringing are likely to be healthier and have a higher degree of well-being in early adulthood than those who did not.

The study, conducted by the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and released last month, shows a link between a religious upbringing and better physical and mental health in young adults.

Researchers found that people who attended religious services weekly or who practiced prayer or meditation daily in their youth reported having a higher life satisfaction and positivity in their 20s.

Individuals were found less likely to smoke, have symptoms of depression, use illicit drugs, or have sexually transmitted infections than people who engaged in less regular spiritual practices.

“These findings are important for both our understanding of health and our understanding of parenting practices,” said first author Ying Chen in a university press release. “Many children are raised religiously, and our study shows that this can powerfully affect their health behaviors, mental health, and overall happiness and well-being.”

The researchers followed 5,000 young people for between eight to 14 years, controlling for variables such as maternal health, socioeconomic status, and histories of substance abuse or symptoms of depression.

Results show that those who went to religious services at least once a week as children were about 18 percent more likely to report higher levels of happiness as young adults between the ages of 23 and 30 than those who didn’t. They were also shown to be 29 percent more likely to volunteer in their local communities and 33 percent less likely to engage in the use of illicit drugs.

Those who prayed or meditated at least once a day in their youth were shown to be 16 percent more likely to report higher levels of happiness as young adults and were 30 percent less likely to have become sexually active in their adolescence. These individuals were also 40 percent less likely to have contracted a sexually transmitted infection than those who never prayed or meditated.

Emilie Kao, the director of the DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at The Heritage Foundation, said she was not surprised by the researchers’ findings, noting that the Harvard study joins a long list of studies showing a positive link between religion and well-being.

“I think they’re consistent with other research that we’ve seen that shows religious beliefs give people spiritual strengths that lead to healthy habits and build their social networks and gives them the ability to overcome obstacles in their lives,” Kao said.

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Though the positive effects of growing up in a religious household is clear, religiosity in America is declining, particularly among millennials.

Gallup data shows that the number of Americans regarding religion to be “very important” in their lives is at a 24-year low, at 51 percent.

In addition, data from the Pew Research Center shows religiosity among Americans consistently declining for the past five generations, with 36 percent of millennials born between 1990 and 1996 unaffiliated with any religion.

By contrast, only 11 percent of those in the “Silent Generation,” born between 1928 and 1945, according to Pew, were unaffiliated with a religion.

Jon Cadle, a senior from Minnesota at George Washington University, said he thinks the decline is because young people today are too distracted, and he blames technology as the source of the problem.

“Where once it was a family activity every Sunday, now it’s about football and ‘Fortnite,’” Cadle said, referring to a popular online video game for children and teenagers that parents even started hiring tutors for their kids to play. “There’s so many more distractions in our culture today than in past generations.”

Hunter Wilson, another student at George Washington University, agrees that the decline in the importance of religion among young people is a result of changing values between generations.

“With the combination of religion not being taught as much in the home, in addition to its declining presence in the public square, it’s easy to understand how religion is declining in importance among my peers,” said Wilson, who hails from Michigan.

Kao warned this decline in religiosity among Americans could drive up the unhealthy behaviors that religious upbringings are shown to reduce, such as drug and alcohol addiction and depression.

“Whether it’s drugs or suicide, it’s the strong personal connections and social networks that insulate against addictions and unhealthy behaviors and suicide,” she said.

Kao said there is a lesson for policymakers to be learned from studies showing the positive influences that growing up with a religious upbringing can have.

“What policymakers need to do is allow religious institutions to operate in the public square without trying to force them to change their beliefs,” she said. “I think there’s a movement to push religious organizations out of the public square because people don’t share their values or think their values are too traditional.”

The Harvard study, “Associations of Religious Upbringing With Subsequent Health and Well-Being From Adolescence to Young Adulthood: An Outcome-Wide Analysis,” was published in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

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« Reply #658 on: June 10, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »

As San Francisco District Attorney, Kamala Harris's office stopped cooperating with victims of Catholic Church child abuse

Kamala Harris, surrounded by thousands of cheering supporters, kicked off her presidential campaign in Oakland earlier this year, declaring that she has always fought “on behalf of survivors of sexual assault, a fight not just against predators but a fight against silence and stigma.”

Fighting on behalf of victims of sexual abuse, particularly children, has been central to Harris’s political identity for the better part of three decades. Harris specialized in prosecuting sex crimes and child exploitation as a young prosecutor just out of law school. She later touted her record on child sexual abuse cases and prosecuting pedophiles in television advertisements, splashy profiles, and on the trail as she campaigned for public office.

But when it came to taking on the Catholic Church, survivors of clergy sexual abuse say that Harris turned a blind eye, refusing to take action against clergy members accused of sexually abusing children when it meant confronting one of the city’s most powerful political institutions. Just six months before Harris took office, a U.S. Supreme Court decision overturned a California law that had retroactively eliminated the statute of limitations for criminal prosecution of child molestation cases. That shifted the focus to holding predators among the clergy accountable through civil cases and through a broader effort to bring attention to predators who had been shielded by the church.

Hallinan, the radical district attorney who Harris ousted in a contentious election campaign, believed that the clergy abuse files were a matter of public record; Harris refused to release them to the public.

In her seven years as district attorney, Harris’s office did not proactively assist in civil cases against clergy sex abuse and ignored requests by activists and survivors to access the cache of investigative files that could have helped them secure justice, according to several victims of clergy sex abuse living in California who spoke to The Intercept.

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« Reply #659 on: June 20, 2019, 09:06:39 AM »

Supreme Court: Cross Can Stand On Public Land In Separation Of Church And State Case
June 20, 2019
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A World War I memorial cross sits in Bladensburg, Md., just outside Washington, D.C. The federal government asked the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the cross.
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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a 40-foot World War I memorial cross can stay on public land at a Maryland intersection.

The cross "has become a prominent community landmark, and its removal or radical alteration at this date would be seen by many not as a neutral act but as the manifestation of a hostility toward religion that has no place in our Establishment Clause traditions," the court wrote. Justice Alito wrote the majority opinion for the court.

"And contrary to respondents' intimations, there is no evidence of discriminatory intent in the selection of the design of the memorial or the decision of a Maryland commission to maintain it. The Religion Clause of the Constitution aim to foster a society in which people of all beliefs can live together harmoniously, and the presence of the Bladensburg Cross on the land where it has stood for so many years is fully consistent with that aim."

The decision was 7-to-2, but had multiple parts and not all of the seven agreeing on every aspect. The decision reverses a lower-court ruling that said the memorial is unconstitutional because it is on public land and maintained at taxpayer expense. The high court's ruling is a major victory for religious groups and the American Legion, which warned that if this cross had to be moved, so too would other crosses that serve as war memorials.

Alito argued that the cross had essentially become secular. He invoked the history of World War I memorials noting the rows and rows of crosses and stars of David at cemeteries that memorialized those who died in that war and that established in people's minds, in his view, that that was a way to honor to dead.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, in dissent, disagreed with Alito's history. She noted that it's clear what the purpose and meaning of the cross was from the start — it was religious. She argued Americans knew what it meant then and know what it means now.

"Decades ago," Ginsburg wrote, "this Court recognized that the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution demands governmental neutrality among religious faiths, and between religion and nonreligion. ... Numerous times since, the Court has reaffirmed the Constitution's commitment to neutrality. Today the Court erodes that neutrality commitment, diminishing precedent designed to preserve individual liberty and civic harmony in favor of a 'presumption of constitutionality for longstanding monuments, symbols, and practices.'"

She adds, "The Latin cross is the foremost symbol of the Christian faith, embodying the 'central theological claim of Christianity: that the son of God died on the cross, that he rose from the dead, and that his death and resurrection offer the possibility of eternal life.' ... Precisely because the cross symbolizes these sectarian beliefs, it is a common marker for the graves of Christian soldiers. For the same reason, using the cross as a war memorial does not transform it into a secular symbol, as the Courts of Appeals have uniformly recognized."

The decision could have sweeping implications in terms of symbols, like crosses and the 10 Commandments that are already constructed. Those that are already there, likely will be able to stay; it's a question of removal, not putting them up. It could still be contested, however, if someone wanted to construct something new, because the purpose would be better known than something historic.

The concrete cross at the center of the court's decision is located in the middle of a busy median strip and directly across the street from a large pawnshop in Bladensburg, Md.

It was erected nearly 100 years ago when bereaved mothers in Bladensburg decided to build a World War I memorial to honor their fallen sons. When they ran out of money, the American Legion took over the project. But by the 1930s, a local parks commission had taken over the memorial and the responsibility for its maintenance.

Today, the cross is more grungy than grand. The concrete is crumbling; a canvas tarp covers the top, and without the $100,000 that the parks commission has budgeted for repair, the monument looks like it may not be long for this world.

The American Humanist Association challenged the placement of the cross, contending that "there is no meaning to the Latin cross, other than Christianity." A federal appeals court agreed, declaring that its placement violated the Constitution's ban on establishment of religion. The appeals court ruled that the cross should be moved to a private location and funded without taxpayer money.

Now the Supreme Court has reversed that ruling.

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« Reply #660 on: June 20, 2019, 09:10:42 AM »

Of course Ginsberg and Sotomayor were the two who opposed.
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« Reply #661 on: June 20, 2019, 03:12:32 PM »

Of course Ginsberg and Sotomayor were the two who opposed.

Surprised Breyer and Kagan got it right. 
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« Reply #662 on: June 20, 2019, 03:12:47 PM »

Justices reject challenge to 'In God We Trust' on U.S. money
By Alex Swoyer - The Washington Times - Monday, June 10, 2019

The Supreme Court rejected a case Monday brought by an atheist who wanted to scrub “In God We Trust,” the U.S. motto, from the nation’s currency, claiming it was an entanglement of state and religion.

Michael Newdow, an activist who previous challenged reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in schools, had set his sights on money, but lost at the district, circuit and now Supreme Court levels.

On behalf of a group of atheists, Mr. Newdow argued America’s money lacked an reference to God until 1864, when it was added in. He said that amounted to an endorsement of religion.

“By mandating the inscription of facially religious text … on every coin and currency bill, defendants have turned petitioners — among whom are nine children — into ‘political outsiders’ on the basis of their most fundamental religious tenet,” he argued in his petition to the Supreme Court.

The justices rejected his petition without comment.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in its ruling last August against Mr. Newdow said the Establishment Clause of the Constitution doesn’t force the government to purge itself from all religious reflection.

“Precluding general references to God would do exactly that,” the federal appeals court ruled.

Mr. Newdow lost a similar challenge in 2014 when the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against a previous effort to strip the motto from currency. Four other appeals courts, dealing with the issue before, also have upheld the motto’s place on American money.

The activist has also launched a series of other legal challenges, attempting to separate religion from the public sphere. Some of his well known battles include trying to halt the Pledge of Allegiance from being said in public school due to the phrase “under God,” and also trying to stop prayers and religious references at the inaugurations of Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

Becket Religious Liberty for All, a religious liberty focused law firm, said the high court made the right move by dismissing Mr. Newdow’s challenge Monday.

“The result is the right one, but the multiyear process is a grand waste of time and money,” said Eric Rassbach, an attorney for Becket.

He said it’s time for the Supreme Court to revisit the “Lemon test,” a framework the Supreme Court laid out in a 1971 case for reviewing when a government’s action crosses the line into unconstitutional religious entanglement. Under the Lemon test, an action must have a secular purpose, must not advance or inhibit a religion, and must avoid “excessive government entanglement with religion.”

Mr. Rassbach said the Lemon test invites cases like Mr. Newdow‘s.

The Supreme Court has a chance to retire the Lemon test in another case this term involving a nearly 100-year-old war memorial cross in Bladensburg, Maryland. The Peace Cross, which stands on public land, is dedicated to local soldiers who died in World War I.

Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, during oral argument in that case, suggested Lemon’s usefulness was at an end.

“It’s been a long time since this court has applied Lemon,” Justice Gorsuch said. “Is it time for this court to thank Lemon for its services and send it on its way?”

A decision in the Peace Cross case is expected by the end of the month.

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« Reply #663 on: June 21, 2019, 02:14:04 AM »

Surprised Breyer and Kagan got it right. 
I've actually been surprised with Kagan on several past rulings.  She's probably the least liberal of the four liberals.
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« Reply #664 on: June 23, 2019, 02:41:34 PM »

Alabama gov. signs law allowing Briarwood Presbyterian Church to have own police force

After several years of seeking to establish a private police force to adequately protect its church and school campuses, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has signed legislation allowing the Briarwood Presbyterian Church to do just that despite objections from critics.

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Ivey approved the legislation some two week ago.

In a statement on the approval, Briarwood said that despite having a great relationship with local law enforcement agencies, establishing a private police force had become necessary because the state was unable to provide adequate security for the approximately 2,000 students and faculty of Briarwood Christian School located on two campuses in unincorporated Jefferson and Shelby County due to budget cuts.

Randall Marshall, the executive director of the ACLU of Alabama, told the AP that the law could allow the church to cover-up criminal activity that occurs on its campuses and expects it to be challenged in courts for unconstitutionally granting government power to a religious institution.

Matthew Moore, Briarwood's church administrator, told ABC 33/40 that they won’t be hiring their own officers immediately. He added that police officers in the agency they establish will be answerable only to the church.

“Line officers will report to supervisors and supervisors will report to the director of safety and security/chief of police,” Moore said. “The director/chief reports to the administrator/chief operating officer/dean/college president, who is then responsible for reporting to the governing body, ie: board of trustees, board of education or ruling elders.”

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« Reply #665 on: June 24, 2019, 07:12:31 PM »

Alabama gov. signs law allowing Briarwood Presbyterian Church to have own police force

After several years of seeking to establish a private police force to adequately protect its church and school campuses, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has signed legislation allowing the Briarwood Presbyterian Church to do just that despite objections from critics.

The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Ivey approved the legislation some two week ago.

In a statement on the approval, Briarwood said that despite having a great relationship with local law enforcement agencies, establishing a private police force had become necessary because the state was unable to provide adequate security for the approximately 2,000 students and faculty of Briarwood Christian School located on two campuses in unincorporated Jefferson and Shelby County due to budget cuts.

Randall Marshall, the executive director of the ACLU of Alabama, told the AP that the law could allow the church to cover-up criminal activity that occurs on its campuses and expects it to be challenged in courts for unconstitutionally granting government power to a religious institution.

Matthew Moore, Briarwood's church administrator, told ABC 33/40 that they won’t be hiring their own officers immediately. He added that police officers in the agency they establish will be answerable only to the church.

“Line officers will report to supervisors and supervisors will report to the director of safety and security/chief of police,” Moore said. “The director/chief reports to the administrator/chief operating officer/dean/college president, who is then responsible for reporting to the governing body, ie: board of trustees, board of education or ruling elders.”

https://www.christianpost.com/news/alabama-gov-signs-law-allowing-briarwood-presbyterian-church-have-own-police-force.html

Thats not accurate. They will also be accountable to state law governing policing. This is not much different than the University of Texas or Texas State or any number of universities across the country having their own jurisdiction and police force.  Not a big deal in my opinion
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« Reply #666 on: June 27, 2019, 03:36:52 PM »

Too bad this serial child molester was not discovered and punished earlier. How many others like him in this cult?

Admitted pedophile, former Savannah priest dies in prison

Instead of guiding children in their faith, a Savannah priest sexually abused them.

Now, the man behind those crimes is dead. Wayland Brown died in a South Carolina prison on June 8.

Officials with the Department of Corrections call his death “expected” and said there was “no foul play” involved.

Brown admitted back in October of 2018 to sexually abusing two boys — Alan Ranta and Chris Templeton — back in the early 1980s when he was a priest in the Savannah Diocese and at St. James School.

He was brought to South Carolina early that year to face criminal charges. Because of the laws in Georgia, he could not be criminally prosecuted there.

But by bringing the boys across state lines, to various areas of Hardeeville where he molested them, prosecutors were able to file charges against him.

Brown pleaded guilty in a Beaufort County courtroom and was sentenced to 20 years behind bars. He only served a little more than 8 months.

Brown had worn his priest's collar while abusing the boys, Solicitor Duffy Stone said, and prayed the rosary with them afterward.

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« Reply #667 on: June 27, 2019, 08:17:18 PM »

Too bad this serial child molester was not discovered and punished earlier. How many others like him in this cult?

Admitted pedophile, former Savannah priest dies in prison

Instead of guiding children in their faith, a Savannah priest sexually abused them.

Now, the man behind those crimes is dead. Wayland Brown died in a South Carolina prison on June 8.

Officials with the Department of Corrections call his death “expected” and said there was “no foul play” involved.

Brown admitted back in October of 2018 to sexually abusing two boys — Alan Ranta and Chris Templeton — back in the early 1980s when he was a priest in the Savannah Diocese and at St. James School.

He was brought to South Carolina early that year to face criminal charges. Because of the laws in Georgia, he could not be criminally prosecuted there.

But by bringing the boys across state lines, to various areas of Hardeeville where he molested them, prosecutors were able to file charges against him.

Brown pleaded guilty in a Beaufort County courtroom and was sentenced to 20 years behind bars. He only served a little more than 8 months.

Brown had worn his priest's collar while abusing the boys, Solicitor Duffy Stone said, and prayed the rosary with them afterward.

https://www.wsav.com/news/admitted-pedophile-savannah-priest-dies-in-prison/

This is one area you and I are in agreement on. But it's not just the church. It's little league, scouts, Olympic physicians  etc. It is any position where adults interact with children on a regular basis that needs to be watched. This includes Millionaire businessmen that sponsor Teen America pageants and barge into teenage dressing rooms "because they can".
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« Reply #668 on: June 27, 2019, 09:46:26 PM »

This is one area you and I are in agreement on. But it's not just the church. It's little league, scouts, Olympic physicians  etc. It is any position where adults interact with children on a regular basis that needs to be watched. This includes Millionaire businessmen that sponsor Teen America pageants and barge into teenage dressing rooms "because they can".

I think you've crossed the line.  LOL.

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« Reply #669 on: June 27, 2019, 10:59:47 PM »

I think you've crossed the line.  LOL.



wait..  what?  I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, were we not?
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« Reply #670 on: June 28, 2019, 01:03:04 AM »

wait..  what?  I thought we were in the trust tree in the nest, were we not?

LOL @ the Frank the Tank quote.
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« Reply #671 on: July 09, 2019, 02:25:42 PM »

Former pastor Haynes sentenced to life in prison

A former Toledo pastor said the 27 months he’s spent away from his children during a pending child sex-trafficking case was already comparable to a life prison sentence.

Anthony Haynes, 40, the former leader of Greater Life Christian Center, told visiting U.S. District Court Judge Bernard Friedman Thursday that he doesn’t deserve life in prison for grooming a then 14-year-old girl to have sex with him and then-pastors Cordell Jenkins and Kenneth Butler.

“I don’t deserve life. I don’t deserve life,” Haynes said during a sermon-like speech. “Like I said, I’ve been doing life for 27 months while I’ve been away from my children and this hurts ... my need today is for you to have mercy on Anthony Haynes.”

While Judge Friedman said he felt sympathy for Haynes’ five children, they were not the ones who committed the crimes. The judge said he didn’t even think such a case would exist because of the “disgusting, horrible” things that occurred. Additionally, Haynes displayed a lack of remorse, Judge Friedman said.

It started when the teenage girl moved in with the Haynes family in 2014 after her mother could no longer provide adequate care for her, investigators said.  Haynes then facilitated the victim to have sex with Jenkins, the leader of Abundant Life Ministries, and Butler, a Detroit-area pastor. They each previously pleaded guilty and have been sentenced — Jenkins to life in prison, Butler to 17½ years.

https://www.toledoblade.com/local/courts/2019/06/27/former-toledo-pastor-anthony-haynes-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/stories/20190627138
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« Reply #672 on: July 09, 2019, 08:35:20 PM »

Former pastor Haynes sentenced to life in prison

A former Toledo pastor said the 27 months he’s spent away from his children during a pending child sex-trafficking case was already comparable to a life prison sentence.

Anthony Haynes, 40, the former leader of Greater Life Christian Center, told visiting U.S. District Court Judge Bernard Friedman Thursday that he doesn’t deserve life in prison for grooming a then 14-year-old girl to have sex with him and then-pastors Cordell Jenkins and Kenneth Butler.

“I don’t deserve life. I don’t deserve life,” Haynes said during a sermon-like speech. “Like I said, I’ve been doing life for 27 months while I’ve been away from my children and this hurts ... my need today is for you to have mercy on Anthony Haynes.”

While Judge Friedman said he felt sympathy for Haynes’ five children, they were not the ones who committed the crimes. The judge said he didn’t even think such a case would exist because of the “disgusting, horrible” things that occurred. Additionally, Haynes displayed a lack of remorse, Judge Friedman said.

It started when the teenage girl moved in with the Haynes family in 2014 after her mother could no longer provide adequate care for her, investigators said.  Haynes then facilitated the victim to have sex with Jenkins, the leader of Abundant Life Ministries, and Butler, a Detroit-area pastor. They each previously pleaded guilty and have been sentenced — Jenkins to life in prison, Butler to 17½ years.

https://www.toledoblade.com/local/courts/2019/06/27/former-toledo-pastor-anthony-haynes-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/stories/20190627138

What's your point in posting all this?  Does this show everybody that God is bad?  That God isn't real? That Jesus is poison?  That atheism has the moral high ground? Or does it demonstrate that some people are truly evil?  Even those that profess Christ but live in opposition of him.

Eh post whatever...it's just a game to entertain yourself.
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