Author Topic: The worst Symmetrical Mr.O ever... (Read 5962 times)

hipolito mejia · « **on:** April 16, 2007, 06:05:49 AM »

Who really is it???

Ronnie was good in the late 90's, so In over 40 years of mr.O history is safe to say that the worst symmetry on a Mr.O winner has to b between Dorian (the keg) Yates or Jay (the fridge) Gutler......

Since Jay has really nice arms,good both biceps and triceps (no Harmony with the rest of the fridge though)...

my vote goes for Dorian as the worst Symmetrical,asthetics and less "flow".
and difficult to look at"

what do u think??

Pollux · « **Reply #1 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:12:30 AM »

Dorian Yates - hands down!

XFACTOR · « **Reply #2 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:21:06 AM »

Quote from: Pollux on April 16, 2007, 06:12:30 AM

Dorian Yates - hands down!

100%

natural al · « **Reply #3 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:24:38 AM »

Dorian looked bad a few times, Ronnie hasn't looked good for years if you go by classical shape, proportion and all that good stuff. Jay didn't fit the bill of what a Mr. O should look like either if you ask me but you can't fault any of these guys, it's the judges who should be called out. Dorian walking out onstage at the 93 O was one of the most shocking things up to that point but he should not have won in 94. Ronnie should not have beaten Jay in 01. It's the judging that needs to be taken to task...guys are reacting to what they think the judges are looking for, I'm sure-and I've said this a bunch of times-Jay Cutler would rather be a bit healthier and coming in at 240lbs looking like he did in 01 than 285lbs and looking like he did last year but he's trying to "please" the judges and this is what they are telling you to look like to win an Olympia. This whole "bigger is better" crap really needs to be put on the back burner, the sport, the athletes, everyone is suffereing because of this mindset. &guy is not always better

-yes I know I called it a "sport" and I called them "athletes"...whatever, I was in the moment.

the shadow · « **Reply #4 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:26:27 AM »

i think so dickerson was worse

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #5 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:28:06 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 06:26:27 AM

i think so dickerson was worse

Why everything but his calves was small on him.

natural al · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2007, 06:29:58 AM »

to bad ND doesnt' post on here anymore, he has tons of pics. I'd like to see some good quality shots of Dickerson before I pass judgement.

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:00:24 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 06:26:27 AM

i think so dickerson was worse

worse SYMMETRICAL than Yates?? Are you serious??

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:04:36 AM »

Can Yates or Gutler look "symmetrical" in poses like this?

i hope youre joking

the shadow · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:06:14 AM »

his calves dwarfed his whole body..nuff said

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #10 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:06:56 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on April 16, 2007, 07:00:24 AM

worse SYMMETRICAL than Yates?? Are you serious??

His elbows aren't symmetrical at all

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:08:45 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 07:06:14 AM

his calves dwarfed his whole body..nuff said

proportion and symmetry, two different things.....

get it??

the shadow · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:10:37 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on April 16, 2007, 07:08:45 AM

proportion and symmetry, two different things.....

get it??

dude this guy barely won the olympia in 982..hell his elbows made his arms look small..overall not an olympia winning physiue with calves as big as his leg

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:12:29 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 07:10:37 AM

dude this guy barely won the olympia in 982..hell his elbows made his arms look small..overall not an olympia winning physiue with calves as big as his leg

so that makes Dickerson less symmetrical than yates and Gutler??

the shadow · « **Reply #14 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:16:01 AM »

Quote from: hipolito mejia on April 16, 2007, 07:12:29 AM

so that makes Dickerson less symmetrical than yates and Gutler??

he had nothing but calves.so i would say yes

hipolito mejia · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:18:24 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 07:16:01 AM

he had nothing but calves.so i would say yes

wich has nothing to do with symmetry, but thanks.

MikeThaMachine · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2007, 07:24:26 AM »

Quote from: the shadow on April 16, 2007, 07:10:37 AM

dude this guy barely won the olympia in 982..hell his elbows made his arms look small..overall not an olympia winning physiue with calves as big as his leg

He got 2nd in 80 and 81 behind Arnold and Franco

Hulkster · « **Reply #17 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:14:50 AM »

post tear dorian by a landslide..

240 is Back · « **Reply #18 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:21:59 AM »

Dickerson didn't train calves. Said his older brother had BETTER calves, and that Chris has probably slowed his own progress by ever traning them at all.

Saxon · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:23:32 AM »

Jay Cutler by a long shot. The asymmetries between the left and right sides of his body are terrible, arms, lats and legs. How a guy whose legs and arms don't even look close to being the same size can be Mr O says a lot about the IFBB judging criteria.

pumpster · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:49:07 AM »

Post-tear, pre-tear it's still 17" arms attached to a barrel:

Buttsuck · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2007, 08:50:49 AM »

Do you guys know the meaning of symmetry? Apparently not because you are using it out of context.

Hulkster · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2007, 09:42:43 AM »

Quote from: Buttsuck on April 16, 2007, 08:50:49 AM

Do you guys know the meaning of symmetry? Apparently not because you are using it out of context.

symmetry in bodybuilding competition context is different than the literal definition.

symmetry in a dictionary means right/left sides of an image or down through a central plane are the same

in bodybuilding symmetry as it is judged in the the symmetry round encompasses much more than this, including taper, balance, proportion and shape.

see the difference:

Buttsuck · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2007, 09:44:35 AM »

Ahhh... i prefer the use of the word balance and proportion though to avoid confusion.

alexxx · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2007, 09:51:57 AM »

WHO CARES???

It's the same shit all the time.

They where mr. Olympia at the time cause there was no one better or who deserved it more. If so they would be making the champions look silly standing next to them and the crowd would not buy it!

Sergio vs Arnold : Sergio never came in the same condition nor could he pose as well as Arnold.

Arnold vs Mentzer : No man with half a chest should be mr. Olympia. Arnold by a long mile.

Lee vs Yates : Lee is what a champion should be 100%. Yates stood no chance.

Flex vs Ronnie : Flex's torso and quads where to small not to mention being narrow compared to Ronnie.

Ronnie vs Cutler : Cutler won cause Ronnie didnt come in as his usual self. But I think that even Cutler would admit that Ronnie is a much better mr. Olympia them himself.

Now Levrone stood a good chance at winning multiple times but he didn't have his head on straight. Not to mention being narrow and lacking striations.