Bonds is getting TOO CLOSE!

[Dos Equis]

Bonds doesn't want to be a role model... he's said so on many occasions.

How can anyone talk about Barry Bonds when it comes to being a role model?

Tu he is role model like every other professional athlete, whether he wants to be or not.  Millions of kids idolize these guys.  And I think these athletes deliberately foster this athlete worship by, among other things, selling their jerseys (primarily to youngsters) and selling their autographs.   

[tu_holmes]

Tu he is role model like every other professional athlete, whether he wants to be or not.  Millions of kids idolize these guys.  And I think these athletes deliberately foster this athlete worship by, among other things, selling their jerseys (primarily to youngsters) and selling their autographs.   

I disagree... I don't see any of these guys as "role models".

They do a job... Their job happens to be playing a game. If someone's kid would rather be like Bonds than their own parent... There's an issue, and it's not Barry.

[Dos Equis]

I disagree... I don't see any of these guys as "role models".

They do a job... Their job happens to be playing a game. If someone's kid would rather be like Bonds than their own parent... There's an issue, and it's not Barry.

I disagree . . . too.     These athletes shouldn't be role models, but the fact is millions of kids do look up to these athletes.  I'm even guilty of sending mixed messages.  I tell my kids these athletes are not role models, but they are right along with me virtually worshiping my favorite teams and athletes.  My admiration for these players ends when the clock strikes zero, but I think many kids aren't able to do this.  These are public figures.  They not only play the game, they sell themselves, put their merchandise all over the place, invite kids to put posters on the kids' bedroom walls, sell baseball cards, etc.  They use these kids to help make money.  They cannot do all of these things (and more) and then claim to have no responsibility to the millions of kids who idolize them. 

[pumpster]

I disagree... I don't see any of these guys as "role models".

They do a job... Their job happens to be playing a game. If someone's kid would rather be like Bonds than their own parent... There's an issue, and it's not Barry.

Tu deserves the adage: "opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one." Tu, what you think is just your opinion AKA who cares or thinks it's relevant just because you personally decide to look the other way over this douchebag? You're clearly extremely biased in your opinion, which isn't representative.

[tu_holmes]

Tu deserves the adage: "opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one." Tu, what you think is just your opinion AKA who cares or thinks it's relevant just because you personally decide to look the other way over this douchebag? You're clearly extremely biased in your opinion, which isn't representative.

The difference is that I "know" it's an opinion... You're acting like yours is law.

[MikeThaMachine]

Please elaborate master of all knowledge and sole provider of opinions. Your a complete moron go back to arguing something you know about ( which is nothing regarding anything discussed on this site). Oh wait sorry I have no room to talk I am only 16 and have only been lifting for 6 months When you have any kind of actual point other then just a bullshit opinion which you will state as fact please share even though I doubt that could happen.

I think I will use this post again, Pumpster is a fuckin douche times two. WTF is your problem, your opinions are fact and the majority without even showing any backing.
Then you write shit like this to counter a reasonable argument

If it makes you better to think so, go to it dickhead. Lots of people find him obnxious; the fact that you don't see it says volumes about you.


Hope this helps

What in the hell is that supposed to mean, you just make a open statement in an attempt to tell someone if they don't think the same as you they must be stupid or have bad morals. I have yet to see a post by you in which your not negative or open to someone else's views. Your just like a Roman Catholic or Mormon

[big L dawg]

bonds=Bitch

[Oldschool Flip]

bonds=Bitch

Bonds= New homerun leader and MLB Hall of Fame

[Dos Equis]

Bonds= New homerun leader and MLB Hall of Fame

*   

[pumpster]

bonds=Bitch

Pithy

[bmacsys]

Yeah ok your a moron. How is argueably the best player ever gonna not make it the first time. He's won 7 MVPs and no one else has more then 3, there is no way he won't be in the HOF on his first try.

Wanna put some money on it? Big Mac didn't and neither will Bonds. They are going to make him wait. Just like Hank Aaron not going to see him break his record and offering up "no comment" about Bonds.

[tu_holmes]

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Does anyone know for certain that Hank Aaron never did juice?

[pumpster]

Does anyone know for certain that Hank Aaron never did juice?

This is referred to as the desperation theory.

[YoungBlood]

Does anyone know for certain that Hank Aaron never did juice?

AGAIN, Hank played in the day when players used to drink a shitload of stuff called "Red Juice." It contained Benzadrine (aka Bennies) and is essentially amphetamines. The traveling conditions were much worse, and these guys drank that stuff to have more stamina.
So, while it may be unknown whether or not Hank used steroids, it's well known him and all the players/teammates of the day were speed freaks due to the aforementioned "Red Juice."

[YoungBlood]

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2006/04/02/PBP_AMPHET_0402.html

[big L dawg]

I'm hoping for a career ending injury when he gets within two HR's that would be funny as hell

[tu_holmes]

This is referred to as the desperation theory.

Haha... hardly... This is referred to as "Normal Inquiry".

See, only people who are afraid that there may be something there are afraid to ask.

We know Bonds juiced... and I for one don't really care. As I've said before, It was good for baseball.

I can only imagine how you'd choke out the words "Yes, Hank took steroids." If it was found out he did.

You're a funny guy pumpster...

[MikeThaMachine]

Wanna put some money on it? Big Mac didn't and neither will Bonds. They are going to make him wait. Just like Hank Aaron not going to see him break his record and offering up "no comment" about Bonds.

Comparing him to McGwire is a joke, your a fucking idiot. The only thing they have in common is hitting 70+ HR in a season and getting walked a lot (which bonds did much more often), otherwise they are completely different players with Bonds being the much better of the two by a handfull of MVP's and records. Why don't you compare Albert Belle and Kenny Loften now....

[americanbulldog]

Comparing him to McGwire is a joke, your a fucking idiot. The only thing they have in common is hitting 70+ HR in a season and getting walked a lot (which bonds did much more often), otherwise they are completely different players with Bonds being the much better of the two by a handfull of MVP's and records. Why don't you compare Albert Belle and Kenny Loften now....

 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1986 21 PIT NL 113  413   72   92  26  3  16   48  36  7  65 102  .223  .330  .416  103  172   2   2   2   2   4 RoY-6
 1987 22 PIT NL 150  551   99  144  34  9  25   59  32 10  54  88  .261  .329  .492  114  271   0   3   3   3   4
 1988 23 PIT NL 144  538   97  152  30  5  24   58  17 11  72  82  .283  .368  .491  147  264   0   2  14   2   3
 1989 24 PIT NL 159  580   96  144  34  6  19   58  32 10  93  93  .248  .351  .426  125  247   1   4  22   1   9
 1990 25 PIT NL 151  519  104  156  32  3  33  114  52 13  93  83  .301  .406  .565  170  293   0   6  15   3   8 SS,MVP-1,AS
 1991 26 PIT NL 153  510   95  149  28  5  25  116  43 13 107  73  .292  .410  .514  161  262   0  13  25   4   8 SS,MVP-2
 1992 27 PIT NL 140  473  109  147  36  5  34  103  39  8 127  69  .311  .456  .624  205  295   0   7  32   5   9 SS,MVP-1,AS
 1993 28 SFG NL 159  539  129  181  38  4  46  123  29 12 126  79  .336  .458  .677  206  365   0   7  43   2  11 SS,MVP-1,AS
 1994 29 SFG NL 112  391   89  122  18  1  37   81  29  9  74  43  .312  .426  .647  182  253   0   3  18   6   3 SS,MVP-4,AS
 1995 30 SFG NL 144  506  109  149  30  7  33  104  31 10 120  83  .294  .431  .577  168  292   0   4  22   5  12 MVP-12,AS
 1996 31 SFG NL 158  517  122  159  27  3  42  129  40  7 151  76  .308  .461  .615  186  318   0   6  30   1  11 SS,MVP-5,AS
 1997 32 SFG NL 159  532  123  155  26  5  40  101  37  8 145  87  .291  .446  .585  170  311   0   5  34   8  13 SS,MVP-5,AS
 1998 33 SFG NL 156  552  120  167  44  7  37  122  28 12 130  92  .303  .438  .609  177  336   1   6  29   8  15 MVP-8,AS
 1999 34 SFG NL 102  355   91   93  20  2  34   83  15  2  73  62  .262  .389  .617  162  219   0   3   9   3   6 MVP-24
 2000 35 SFG NL 143  480  129  147  28  4  49  106  11  3 117  77  .306  .440  .688  191  330   0   7  22   3   6 SS,MVP-2,AS
 2001 36 SFG NL 153  476  129  156  32  2  73  137  13  3 177  93  .328  .515  .863  262  411   0   2  35   9   5 SS,MVP-1,AS
 2002 37 SFG NL 143  403  117  149  31  2  46  110   9  2 198  47  .370  .582  .799  275  322   0   2  68   9   4 SS,MVP-1,AS
 2003 38 SFG NL 130  390  111  133  22  1  45   90   7  0 148  58  .341  .529  .749  231  292   0   2  61  10   7 SS,MVP-1,AS
 2004 39 SFG NL 147  373  129  135  27  3  45  101   6  1 232  41  .362  .609  .812  260  303   0   3 120   9   5 SS,MVP-1,AS
 2005 40 SFG NL  14   42    8   12   1  0   5   10   0  0   9   6  .286  .404  .667  177   28   0   1   3   0   0
 2006 41 SFG NL 130  367   74   99  23  0  26   77   3  0 115  51  .270  .454  .545  156  200   0   1  38  10   9
 2007 42 SFG NL  24   67   19   23   3  0   9   21   1  0  23  10  .343  .511  .791  242   53   0   1   9   1   2
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 22 Seasons         9574      2864     77     1951    141    1495  .299  .443  .610  183        4  90 654 104 154
               2884      2171      590    743      510   2449                            5837


Career 300 hitter who has hit .370 in his career, better OBP, more intentional walks, a five tool guy, gold glover, career .600+ slugging percentage, the only member of the 500-500 club, Big Mac is nowhere near comparable to Bonds. 

Big Mac's career:


 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1986 22 OAK AL  18   53   10   10   1  0   3    9   0  1   4  18  .189  .259  .377   76   20   0   0   0   1   0
 1987 23 OAK AL 151  557   97  161  28  4  49  118   1  1  71 131  .289  .370  .618  164  344   0   8   8   5   6 MVP-6,RoY-1,AS
 1988 24 OAK AL 155  550   87  143  22  1  32   99   0  0  76 117  .260  .352  .478  134  263   1   4   4   4  15 MVP-19,AS
 1989 25 OAK AL 143  490   74  113  17  0  33   95   1  1  83  94  .231  .339  .467  130  229   0  11   5   3  23 MVP-25,AS
 1990 26 OAK AL 156  523   87  123  16  0  39  108   2  1 110 116  .235  .370  .489  143  256   1   9   9   7  13 MVP-11,AS
 1991 27 OAK AL 154  483   62   97  22  0  22   75   2  1  93 116  .201  .330  .383  103  185   1   5   3   3  13 AS
 1992 28 OAK AL 139  467   87  125  22  0  42  104   0  1  90 105  .268  .385  .585  175  273   0   9  12   5  10 SS,MVP-4,AS
 1993 29 OAK AL  27   84   16   28   6  0   9   24   0  1  21  19  .333  .467  .726  224   61   0   1   5   1   0
 1994 30 OAK AL  47  135   26   34   3  0   9   25   0  0  37  40  .252  .413  .474  137   64   0   0   3   0   3
 1995 31 OAK AL 104  317   75   87  13  0  39   90   1  1  88  77  .274  .441  .685  200  217   0   6   5  11   9 MVP-16,AS
 1996 32 OAK AL 130  423  104  132  21  0  52  113   0  0 116 112  .312  .467  .730  203  309   0   1  16   8  14 SS,MVP-7,AS
 1997 33 TOT    156  540   86  148  27  0  58  123   3  0 101 159  .274  .393  .646  168  349   0   7  16   9   9
         OAK AL 105  366   48  104  24  0  34   81   1  0  58  98  .284  .383  .628  161  230   0   5   8   4   9 AS
         STL NL  51  174   38   44   3  0  24   42   2  0  43  61  .253  .411  .684  182  119   0   2   8   5   0 MVP-16
 1998 34 STL NL 155  509  130  152  21  0  70  147   1  0 162 155  .299  .470  .752  217  383   0   4  28   6   8 SS,MVP-2,AS
 1999 35 STL NL 153  521  118  145  21  1  65  147   0  0 133 141  .278  .424  .697  178  363   0   5  21   2  12 MVP-5,AS
 2000 36 STL NL  89  236   60   72   8  0  32   73   1  0  76  78  .305  .483  .746  205  176   0   2  12   7   5 AS
 2001 37 STL NL  97  299   48   56   4  0  29   64   0  0  56 118  .187  .316  .492  106  147   0   6   3   3   7
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 16 Seasons         6187      1626      6     1414      8    1596  .263  .394  .588  163        3  78 150  75 147
               1874      1167      252    583       12   1317                            3639

[Oldschool Flip]

12 more to go!

[MikeThaMachine]

12 more to go!

It's weird how the sports Channels and Mags are now seeming to be all about hyping up Barry and his chase for the record especially with how well he's been playin this year.

[Oldschool Flip]

Now to 11! And fuck Curt Schilling. I hope Bonds taters one off him!

[MikeThaMachine]

Now to 11! And fuck Curt Schilling. I hope Bonds taters one off him!

I have lost almost all respect I've had for Curt, it's one thing to suspect someone of something and quite another to straight out say it as truth with no hard proof what so ever. It's just very unprofessional and def on the level of getbiggers, if he wants to talk trash he should just make a gimmick acount here and let it all out, not under his own name on a baseball blog. BTW Bonds is owning everyone who hates him this year GO BONDS!!!

[big L dawg]

zero respect for either of them

[Oldschool Flip]

5 more to History!