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Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« on: April 20, 2007, 10:12:24 AM »
RUSH: Dingy Harry, Harry Reid, "the Senate majority leader was among those who denounced yesterday's Supreme Court ruling upholding the federal partial-birth abortion ban."  Here's what he said: "'A lot of us wish that Alito weren't there, and O'Connor was there.'  Indicating his desire that there had been a fifth vote to invalidate the statute as Justice O'Connor had provided the fifth vote to invalidate Nebraska's partial-birth abortion ban in a previous case."  But here's the interesting thing.  Dingy Harry "voted for the statute that the Supreme Court upheld."

Well, now, what are we to make of this?  Dingy Harry VOTED FOR the partial-birth abortion ban the Supreme Court more or less upheld.  When asked about it by a reporter he said, "A lot of us wish Alito weren't there and O'Connor were there."  Now, what does this say about Harry Reid?  He votes for a law that the court upholds, then denounces the court for upholding it by attacking one of the justices who voted to uphold it.  Does this make any sense?  Alito didn't even write the decision!  He voted for it, but Kennedy wrote the decision.  Somebody needs to ask Harry Reid why in the world he sounds like such a buffoon. He also voted to ban partial-birth abortion back in 1999.  Folks, it's pure politics!  Not even the issue of life is something sacred to these people.  The template after yesterday's decision was, "Oh, my God, we can't have any more Alitos!"  This comment by Dingy Harry is to set up the next battle for whoever might be nominated in case there's a vacancy.  He votes for the same law the court upholds, and he's lamenting the fact that they upheld the law.  That is dishonest. It is disingenuous. But more than that, it is just plain, pure, political trickery. 

Dingy Harry also today said, "The war in Iraq 'is lost' and a US troop surge is failing to bring peace to the country. 'I believe ... that this war is lost, and this surge is [failing], as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week.'" He said this the same day that President Bush was giving a speech at an Ohio town hall meeting "defending the war on terror."  You have heard me say that the Democrats are invested in defeat.  They own it. They have the deed.  There is no cosigner. They didn't take out a mortgage.  They own it outright.  They want us to lose, and they tell me I'm coarsening the culture?  They want this country humiliated. They want our military made a mockery of.  They want our president a laughingstock around the country.  They tell me I'm coarsening the culture! We always hear from these people, "The rest of the world hates us!" The rest of the world hates us because of Democrats and the division that they have created in this country that the rest of the world sees.  The people who might have problems with it are comforted and aided in airing whatever it is they disagree with us about, because the Democrats of this country give the leadership and cover!

If the Democrats in this country and the media are going to do stories about how Bush ought to be assassinated, and here's how to do it in a book, that Bush is an idiot. He's a cowboy. He's a frat boy, whatever he is, that unprecedented numbers of US soldiers are dying every day for no reason. Bush is this. Bush is that. Well, anybody around the world who also hates us is going to find great comfort and courage in speaking out the same way.  So this notion that we have lost our reputation in the world? I lay it at the feet of the Democrat Party in this country and the Drive-By Media and the entire American left.  I don't hear myself, Sean Hannity, Neal Boortz, Mark Levin, or anybody else ripping this country on a day-to-day basis!  I don't hear us trying to divide people of this country into various camps.  I hear the exact opposite.  I hear love for country. I hear upbeat optimism. I hear can-do spirit. I hear, "There's no limit to what you can accomplish in this country."  That's what we talk about here.  We try to inspire and motivate people.  Nobody on the left is trying to inspire or motivate anything other than hatred, and they've done a damn good job.  Read their blogs.  They have some of the most despicable, obscene stuff coming from American citizens I've ever seen in my life, and it's only getting worse -- and they, the Democrat Party, are sponsoring it. They are motivating it. They are inspiring it, and they are rewarding it, by validating the authenticity and the legitimacy of a bunch of insane lunatics.  Tell me that my buddies and me on talk radio are coarsening the culture?  I'll give you another example.  Alberto Gonzales went up before the Judiciary Committee today with Leahy, and here's a portion of Leahy's opening statement.
 
 
LEAHY:  An investigation that's fair has already pulled back the curtain to reveal unbridled political meddling, Katrina-style cronyism, and unfettered White House unilateralism directed at one of our most precious national assets: our law enforcement and our legal system.

RUSH: We're tired.

LEAHY: Just as respect for the United States as a leader in human rights has been diminished during the last six years, the current actions have served to undercut confidence in our United States attorneys.

RUSH:  This is absolute BS.  There's no "lack of confidence in US attorneys."  This is pure politics. You know, the great illustration of this?  Dianne Feinstein, years ago, wrote letters of complaint to the justice department about a US attorney in San Diego, Carol Lam because she wasn't prosecuting enough illegal immigrant cases.  Well, just like Dingy Harry voted for a law the Supreme Court upholds and he's all upset about that, Dianne Feinstein is now joining the chorus. "It was unfair to get rid of Carol Lam! It was unfair to be critical of her!"  She started it!  Now, what is this business of civil rights around the world? What's this got to do with Gonzales being up there to talk about the US attorney thing?  There's not a crime that's been committed here, not one crime, and Leahy would have to admit it as many Democrats have.  But, of course, it's not about that! It's about "the seriousness of the charge." It's about politicizing our legal system.  Politicizing our legal system? Look at the way these people conduct judicial hearings!  Politicizing the judiciary? The White House has sought to destroy nobody's reputation, nobody's career.  The Democrats can't wait to tell the world, from Kennedy and Bork on forward, about what a bunch of reprobates nominees are. 

The conservatives just sit around and take it. Well, that's the lay of the land these days, and they get away with this kind of rotgut from Leahy.  This is nothing but a bunch of lies, pure politics.  Katrina-style cronyism? Political meddling?  It was Chuck Schumer who kept Fitzgerald's investigation alive, demanding updates now and then to know why more progress wasn't made in getting Scooter Libby or Rove indicted or even Cheney! You can make book on it: when Democrats start complaining and moaning about something, they are the ones that are doing it themselves or have done it.  Now, here's an exchange, and of course the only reason I have this is because the Drive-By Media put it on television today. So this is their definition of fairness.  So you have Leahy and a couple other Democrats questioning Gonzales.  Then you go to a "Republican" to show "balance," but who do you go to?  Arlen Specter! So the Drive-Bys could say, "Well, we had a Republican on there commenting on Gonzales. We had Leahy and so forth, so we're balanced."  Here's the exchange.  Specter says, "Do you prepare for all your press conferences?  Were you prepared for the press conference where you said there weren't any discussions involving you?"

GONZALES:  Senator, I've already said that I misspoke.  It was my mistake.

SPECTER: Were you --  I'm asking you, were you prepared?  You interjected that you're always prepared.  Were you prepared for that press conference?

GONZALES:  Sir, I didn't say I was "always prepared."  I said I prepared for every hearing.

SPECTER:  Well, then I'm asking you, do you prepare for your press conferences?

GONZALES:  Senator, we do take time to try to prepare for the press conferences.

SPECTER:  And were you prepared when you said you weren't involved in any deliberations?

GONZALES:  Senator, I've already conceded that I misspoke at that press conference.  There was nothing intentional.

RUSH:  See? It's crime to not prepare for press conferences -- and that's the Republican!  So the Drive-Bys put this on, "Oh, we've been fair. We've been fair. We had a Republican questioning him." I bet you could find other Republicans who didn't take this tack at all. Now, CNN This Morning Live. The anchor is Heidi Collins and Tony Harris, are discussing these hearings with their legal beagle, Jeffrey Toobin, and Bruce Fein, who is a former associate deputy US attorney general.  Collins, the anchorette, says, "Hey, Jeffrey, is it surprising to you, then, to hear Arlen Specter's tone?"

TOOBIN:  Well, Arlen Specter has been, historically -- uh, at least in certain circumstances -- kind of a maverick moderate Republican.  I mean, Gonzales has gotta hold onto the Republicans today, and he's not off to a good start with -- with, uh, Specter because he keeps repeating these -- these lines about, "Oh, I kept waiting for the consensus. I kept waiting for the consensus of my colleagues."  I mean, is he the attorney general or not?

RUSH:  Oh, come on!  Consensus? We can rely on the consensus of a bunch of bought and paid for scientists to tell us we're destroying the planet with global warming, but the attorney general can't take the advice of associates in his office?  He was waiting for a consensus. He was involving his underlings.  "Oh, come on, consensus?" he said. "Why, this, he's the attorney general!"  Okay, George Bush is the president, and there is no global warming in his mind, so shut up from now on about it!  There is no global warming.  Bush says so.  I say so! We don't need consensus.  By virtue of consensus this is the most powerful, most accurate radio show out there because I got more listeners than any other media figure like me.  Same thing. If that can make global warming real, what I just said is real.  The difference is, it is real in my case.  One more before we go to the break here.  Harris says to Toobin, "Well, what's the grade on what you've seen so far?"

TOOBIN:  I -- I -- I would say, charitably, incomplete.

HARRIS:  Humph! Bruce, what's the grade on what you've seen so far?

FEIN:  I think they will view many of these answers as what I style "Clintonesque," as trying to parse his involvement in the Sampson review process as opposed to his other involvement.

RUSH:  Wait a minute!  Now not only consensus is bad, but Clintonesque is bad.  I thought Clintonesque was brilliant!  The Drive-Bys used to sit around and be marveling at how well he lied. They were so excited he was even talking to them, and he lied so well, they were just stunned at how well!  Now Clintonesque is bad?  Consensus is bad, and Clintonesque is bad?  Folks, you cannot trust these people! You cannot! You need to doubt everything you hear from these people, until you can confirm it on your own, because it's tripe.
 
 
BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  This business of consensus. There's Jeffrey Toobin saying that it's a mistake for Gonzales to say he'd been waiting on the consensus of his staff. "Come on, he's attorney general!" You realize the hypocrisy there?  They are demanding consensus from Bush on the war. They're demanding they be listened to, not just the Democrats, but the media.  They call Bush strong headed and stubborn.  But here in Gonzales, it's a defect!  Today it's bad.  But they demand the same behavior from Bush.  Bush was slammed yesterday by Pelosi and Reid for not being willing to listen to others, when they went up there to have their little big powwow.  I've been studying these people. I know them like the back of my hand, and I'm just amazed. Consensus on global warming? It's fine, but it's not good for Gonzales.  They demand Bush use consensus, listen to others. (sigh) These people are a menace.   
 
 
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AFP: Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader
CT: Republican tells Gonzales to quit
FOX News: Gonzales Defends His Right to Fire
 
 
 
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2007, 10:18:19 AM »
Mr I,

Do you believe we are winning the war in Iraq?

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2007, 10:21:49 AM »
why are there 2 threads with this title?
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2007, 12:09:39 PM »
Mr I,

Do you believe we are winning the war in Iraq?

Lets just say I don't think we're losing, and lke I've said before, the Dems would like nothing better for us to lose just so it would further their agenda. I do think we're fighting this war too lightly....we should have at least another couple of hundred thousand troops and to hell with the political correctness!

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2007, 12:17:22 PM »
LOL RUSH THINKS ''WERE'' WINNING THE WAR TOO !
RUSH WOULD NEVER PUT ON A UNIFORM HIMSELF OF COURSE !
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2007, 12:18:32 PM »
LOL RUSH THINKS ''WERE'' WINNING THE WAR TOO !
RUSH WOULD NEVER PUT ON A UNIFORM HIMSELF OF COURSE !

Maybe after he does himself a dose of OC.   ;D

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2007, 12:21:42 PM »
LOL RUSH THINKS ''WERE'' WINNING THE WAR TOO !
RUSH WOULD NEVER PUT ON A UNIFORM HIMSELF OF COURSE !

Well, considering the press won't tell the truth about the war, whats left to conclude. CNN already admitted running terrorist propagana here in the states..........and stop with the "Rush would never put on a uniform himself" what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2007, 01:04:18 PM »
Well, considering the press won't tell the truth about the war, whats left to conclude. CNN already admitted running terrorist propagana here in the states..........and stop with the "Rush would never put on a uniform himself" what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
So the abysmal failure of the president's Iraq policy is the fault of the liberal media that just doesn't report enough of the good things going on in Iraq.  Our own government's NIEs state that the Iraq invasion is destabalizing the middle east and causing terrorism worldwide to grow exponentially. 

Does that sound like we're winning to you?

Do you understand just how ridiculous that sounds?

Do you recommend that the media stop reporting the 100s and 100s of deaths going on over there?

Should the media balance out those negative stories with good hearted stories about locals opening up a new school or Wal-Mart?

Do you honestly believe that death, destruction and carnage are on an equal footing with the opening of fast food shops and schools as a matter of news quality?


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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2007, 01:11:37 PM »
politics aside, to proclaim the war is lost while there are soldiers in the field of battle is unconscionable, irresponsible and anti-American

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2007, 01:14:31 PM »
So the abysmal failure of the president's Iraq policy is the fault of the liberal media that just doesn't report enough of the good things going on in Iraq.  Our own government's NIEs state that the Iraq invasion is destabalizing the middle east and causing terrorism worldwide to grow exponentially. 

Does that sound like we're winning to you?

Do you understand just how ridiculous that sounds?

Do you recommend that the media stop reporting the 100s and 100s of deaths going on over there?

Should the media balance out those negative stories with good hearted stories about locals opening up a new school or Wal-Mart?

Do you honestly believe that death, destruction and carnage are on an equal footing with the opening of fast food shops and schools as a matter of news quality?



Why argue with facts?  anything you say will just end up being the Libs" fault!  lol.

Insert Jews in place of Libs with him and go back in time to 1934.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2007, 01:20:53 PM »
politics aside, to proclaim the war is lost while there are soldiers in the field of battle is unconscionable, irresponsible and anti-American
Maybe.  But if any action taken starts with an idea, then it's a first step.  If the initiative begins with discussing the pointlessness of further military action, then so be it.  Without debate or discussion there can be no progress.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »
Why argue with facts?  anything you say will just end up being the Libs" fault!  lol.

Insert Jews in place of Libs with him and go back in time to 1934.
I don't like to think that way.  We all are in a movement from imperfect understanding to better understanding.

Some of us, for whatever reason, are further along than others in understanding things. 

Another way of stating it is that we all begin in ignorance and progress towards knowledge.

It's a frustrating journey and we all end up looking like hypocrites, but it is necessary if embarked upon in earnest.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2007, 01:27:45 PM »
Maybe. 

I suppose that's the best I'm going to get.  I think you can debate policy without feeding into the propoganda of the enemy and (further) demoralizing the troops.  But hey that's just me.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2007, 01:28:52 PM »
I don't like to think that way.  We all are in a movement from imperfect understanding to better understanding.

Some of us, for whatever reason, are further along than others in understanding things. 

Another way of stating it is that we all begin in ignorance and progress towards knowledge.

It's a frustrating journey and we all end up looking like hypocrites, but it is necessary if embarked upon in earnest.

yeah  i supposed you are correct.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2007, 02:08:15 PM »

 
BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  This business of consensus. There's Jeffrey Toobin saying that it's a mistake for Gonzales to say he'd been waiting on the consensus of his staff. "Come on, he's attorney general!" You realize the hypocrisy there?     
 
 
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Is that Mr. Rush "Oxycontin" Limbaugh speaking on hypocrisy again?

He's such an expert in that area.  ::)

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2007, 02:27:34 PM »
So the abysmal failure of the president's Iraq policy is the fault of the liberal media that just doesn't report enough of the good things going on in Iraq.  Our own government's NIEs state that the Iraq invasion is destabalizing the middle east and causing terrorism worldwide to grow exponentially. 

Does that sound like we're winning to you?

Do you understand just how ridiculous that sounds?

Do you recommend that the media stop reporting the 100s and 100s of deaths going on over there?

Should the media balance out those negative stories with good hearted stories about locals opening up a new school or Wal-Mart?

Do you honestly believe that death, destruction and carnage are on an equal footing with the opening of fast food shops and schools as a matter of news quality?

Mr. Hate started this thread, his name is synonymous with ridiculous.

Mr. Hate isn't interested in facts. He's interested in blaming Liberals for EVERYTHING. He's so full of rage against the Democratic Party I wouldn't doubt that he dreams of killing them, literally ending their lives. Sadly he's so full of propaganda that he no longer thinks or reasons.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2007, 02:30:09 PM »
IF YOU ASK ME THE PRESS HAS NOT SHOWN ALL THE REAL NEGATIVE SHIT THATS GOING ON OVER THERE AND ARE SUGER COATING THIS WAR ! MY COUSIN JUST GOT BACK FROM THAT SHIT HOLE AND HE TELLS A GRIM TALE ..........
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2007, 02:33:17 PM »
IF YOU ASK ME THE PRESS HAS NOT SHOWN ALL THE REAL NEGATIVE SHIT THATS GOING ON OVER THERE AND ARE SUGER COATING THIS WAR ! MY COUSIN JUST GOT BACK FROM THAT SHIT HOLE AND HE TELLS A GRIM TALE ..........
YOU WANT REAL NEWS YOUR NOT GOING TO GET IT ON U.S. TV

This is actually true. The simple fact that we're not allowed to see the caskets of dead soldiers is telling. The carnage perpetrated on our soldiers is hidden from us. We aren't allowed to see how they've suffered.

The general public seeing soldiers with blown off faces and limbs and melted skin isn't good for the business of War.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2007, 02:35:21 PM »
BWT HITLERY WILL NOT BE ANY BETTER ! SHE HAS SOLD OUT TO OTHER CORPORATE INTEREST
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2007, 02:35:38 PM »
I agree with Arnold - Rush is irrelevant (and has been for a long time).  

BTW - Henry Kissinger (adviser to Bush) made this same statement prior to Reid.

AP Exclusive: Kissinger says military victory not possible in Iraq

TOKYO: Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who helped engineer the U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam, said Sunday the problems in Iraq are more complex than that conflict, and military victory is no longer possible.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/01/asia/AS-GEN-Japan-Iraq-Kissinger.php

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2007, 02:36:31 PM »
WALTER FUCKING REED HOSPITAL ! THATS MR BUSH RIGHT THERE IN A NUTSHELL
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2007, 02:37:28 PM »
Henry Kissinger KNOWN PEDOFILE AND GANGSTER ! :-*
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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2007, 02:47:09 PM »
Henry Kissinger KNOWN PEDOFILE AND GANGSTER ! :-*

no idea of this is true or not but I know he's got a very slimy reputation.  Either way it doesn't discount the fact that he's an advisor to Bush and he's said this thing is lost.


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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
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Thousands More Dead In Continuing Iraq Victory
America marks three and a half years of winning in Iraq, and nearly 3,000 victory deaths
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      Statistics released by the Department Of Defense estimated that 2,937 U.S. troops and over 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the ongoing American military victory in Iraq.
General George Casey, Jr. lauds "another plainly measurable step" in America's victory.
"Victory deaths are at a higher level than we had anticipated, yes," Gen. George Casey, Jr. said at a press conference shortly after the figures were released. "But one of the crucial lessons of our Vietnam experience is that a victory, in order to remain victorious, can't be abandoned halfway through, or in the case of Iraq, one-eighth of the way through."

"And significantly more troops may be required if we are to continue to enjoy that victory, especially if this turns into an all-out civil war," Casey added, stressing that it was still too early to deem the victory a "quagmire."

Debate continues over whether U.S. troops should be withdrawn from the Iraqi theater of victory. While some in Congress argue that a withdrawal would force Iraqi leadership to enforce the victory on their own, many military experts say that Iraqi troops remain insufficiently trained and unprepared to handle the daily perils of victory.

President Bush has consistently warned that if we hand over victory to local forces right away, there's a risk that victory may worsen, as Iraqis won't be able to contend with the guerrilla attacks and improvised explosive devices that claim the lives of dozens of the victorious every day.

"We're paying dearly in the form of American lives," Bush said, "but, plainly speaking, that's just victory for you."

Casey's remarks came nearly two weeks after some 200 Iraqi Shi'ites died in a series of car bombs in Baghdad's Sadr City, the largest single victory-related death toll since the U.S. won the Iraq War in 2003.

In an address to the nation Dec. 10, President Bush predicted that, if efforts continue as they have in Iraq, "This could become America's longest victory ever," Bush said.

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Re: Harry Reid; We've lost the War
« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2007, 04:04:40 PM »
IF YOU ASK ME THE PRESS HAS NOT SHOWN ALL THE REAL NEGATIVE SHIT THATS GOING ON OVER THERE AND ARE SUGER COATING THIS WAR ! MY COUSIN JUST GOT BACK FROM THAT SHIT HOLE AND HE TELLS A GRIM TALE ..........
YOU WANT REAL NEWS YOUR NOT GOING TO GET IT ON U.S. TV


Thank you. That's what I've been attempting to communicate.