Author Topic: What is the difference between Ephedrine HCl and Sulfate? (Read 2971 times)

everything is a trade off squad..some muscle lost for a lot a fat lost seems like a good trade to some people

expecially now that it is getting warmer...yes, those tiny tits as you like to call them, it is now their season

The Squadfather · « **Reply #10 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:18:47 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 20, 2007, 05:17:03 PM

everything is a trade off squad..some muscle lost for a lot a fat lost seems like a good trade to some people

expecially now that it is getting warmer...yes, those tiny tits as you like to call them, it is now their season

hahahaha, i know, i'm just angry because even when i take a little bit of that shit i start looking stringy, i lose weight FAST on that stuff, i'm trying lose bf the old fashiones way with diet and cardio.

Croatch · « **Reply #11 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:23:20 PM »

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I recently switched to the bronkaid for price reasons, but either work great. I might get a little more sweats from the bronkaid. Both great products

Same here, Bronkaid is about 20 cents a pill vs. 65 cents for Vasopro.

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Ephedrine sulphate is far more bioavailable, but the rate of absorption for ephedrine hydroclodide is faster.

Explain it to me like a 5 year old.
So you absorb more of the sulphate, but the hydrocloride absorbs quicker?

Board_SHERIF · « **Reply #12 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:25:28 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on April 20, 2007, 03:05:33 PM

Brokaid has sulfate, while Vasopro has HCl. Which is better?

Just the name says to me Keep Away $:-\$

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #13 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:26:17 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on April 20, 2007, 05:18:47 PM

hahahaha, i know, i'm just angry because even when i take a little bit of that shit i start looking stringy, i lose weight FAST on that stuff, i'm trying lose bf the old fashiones way with diet and cardio.

you statement defies logic

so why would eca alone be any more of a muscle "waste" than cardio?

dude, get your ass up early, take the eca and then 45 min fast walk..you might even get a woman this summer

The Squadfather · « **Reply #14 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:27:28 PM »

Quote from: SteelePegasus on April 20, 2007, 05:26:17 PM

you statement defies logic

so why would eca alone be any more of a muscle "waste" than cardio?

dude, get your ass up early, take the eca and then 45 min fast walk..you might even get a woman this summer

hahahahaha i get plenty of women "brutha", don't be angry that white chicks don't give you the time of day.

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #15 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:28:45 PM »

Quote from: The Squadfather on April 20, 2007, 05:27:28 PM

hahahahaha i get plenty of women "brutha", don't be angry that white chicks don't give you the time of day.

I am white too...look at my sexy body..

I am too sexy to wear a shirt..chicks dig my hairy legs

Croatch · « **Reply #16 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:38:56 PM »

haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.

Mr. Cortisol · « **Reply #17 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:43:21 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on April 20, 2007, 05:38:56 PM

haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.

poor people whose skid marks are worn with pride.

Board_SHERIF · « **Reply #18 on:** April 20, 2007, 05:45:02 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on April 20, 2007, 05:38:56 PM

haha, I didn't know people still wore tighty whiteys.

Boxers are way better

TheEgoCrusher · « **Reply #19 on:** April 20, 2007, 07:53:31 PM »

The Hydrochloride form in inferior. Ditto for Glucosamine.

suckmymuscle · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2007, 08:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Croatch on April 20, 2007, 05:23:20 PM

Explain it to me like a 5 year old.
So you absorb more of the sulphate, but the hydrocloride absorbs quicker?

No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Croatch · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2007, 08:39:32 PM »

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No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Fascinating stuff, well explained. Thanks.

pobrecito · « **Reply #22 on:** April 20, 2007, 08:40:36 PM »

Quote from: suckmymuscle on April 20, 2007, 08:18:17 PM

No problem, little boy. So pay attention. Ephedrine sulphate, as the name indicates, was chemically bound to the alkaloid with sulphuric acid to form the salt, whereas the ephedrine hydrocloride was bound with hydrocloric acid(ALKALINE BASE + ACID = SALT + WATER). The sulphate is more difficult for the stomach to digest and for the gastro-intestinal tract to absorb, because the sulphate is alien to the gut. The hydrocloride salt, conversely, is broken down by the gut much easier, because hydrochloride acid is the main stomach acid. This means that it gets into your bloodstream quicker. However, because it is exposed to the enzymes for less time, the absorption is not complete. The sulphate, conversely, needs to be exposed to the enzymes for a longer time to release, but it results in a greater amount being absorved. So, if you take 50 mg of ephedrine hydrochloride, only 30 mg will get into your bloodstream, with the rest being excreted unaltered, but it will do so in half an hour. 50 mg of the sulphate will deliver all the 50 mg, but it will do so over 1 to 2 hours. Get it?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Looks like someone took freshman chemistry. LOL.

Mr. Intenseone · « **Reply #23 on:** April 20, 2007, 08:58:57 PM »

Quote from: pobrecito on April 20, 2007, 08:40:36 PM

Looks like someone took freshman chemistry. LOL.

....as if!

SWOLETRAIN · « **Reply #24 on:** April 21, 2007, 11:54:24 AM »

HAHA that fucking picture is funny!!!!!!!!

Author Topic: What is the difference between Ephedrine HCl and Sulfate? (Read 2971 times)

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