Royce to fight Sak in a rematch???

[Scimowser]

Theres rumours circulating that the rematch between the 2 has been agreed and is soon to be signed. Obviously it wont come close to the first fight, a classic for the ages by any standards, but this should stir up alot of interest as long as the CSAC sanctions the fight. If it happens, then its schedulled for 2nd June in the Los Angeles Coliseum in the combined K-1 Hero's and EXC show.

[americanbulldog]

I was hoping he was going to fight Rickson instead.  Ze Saku 39! 

[OKMike]

I was hoping he was going to fight Rickson instead.  Ze Saku 39! 

Me too!  Rickson needs to defend his family's honor!

[Scimowser]

Rickson is almost 50, theres no way he will ever come back to fight. His families honour has many other Gracies to defend it, just a shame theyre nowhere near his level

[americanbulldog]

Rickson is almost 50, theres no way he will ever come back to fight. His families honour has many other Gracies to defend it, just a shame theyre nowhere near his level

We'll see if Ze Saku is granted a license to fight.  CSAC is stringent.  Saku has taken a beating of late.  Renzo is the best fighter in the family.  Anyone, anywhere, anytime. 

[onlyme]

Theres rumours circulating that the rematch between the 2 has been agreed and is soon to be signed. Obviously it wont come close to the first fight, a classic for the ages by any standards, but this should stir up alot of interest as long as the CSAC sanctions the fight. If it happens, then its schedulled for 2nd June in the Los Angeles Coliseum in the combined K-1 Hero's and EXC show.

Royce is fighting at that promotion. 

[Scimowser]

i wouldnt say Renzo is the best but hes the most aggressive by a country mile

[americanbulldog]

i wouldnt say Renzo is the best but hes the most aggressive by a country mile

Win Frank Shamrock DQ (Knees to the Head on the Ground) Elite XC - Destiny 2/10/2007 2 2:00 
 Win Carlos Newton Decision (Split) IFL - Championship Final 12/29/2006 3 4:00 
 Win Pat Miletich Submission (Guillotine choke) IFL - Gracie vs. Miletich 9/23/2006 1 3:37 
 Loss B.J. Penn Decision (Unanimous) K-1 - World Grand Prix Hawaii 7/29/2005 3 5:00 
 Loss Carlos Newton Decision (Split) PRIDE - Bushido 1 10/5/2003 2 5:00 
 Loss Shungo Oyama Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 21 - Demolition 6/23/2002 3 5:00 
 Win Michiyoshi Ohara Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 17 - Championship Chaos 11/3/2001 3 5:00 
 Loss Dan Henderson KO (Punch) PRIDE 13 - Collision Course 3/25/2001 1 1:40 
 Loss Kazushi Sakuraba Technical Submission (Kimura) PRIDE 10 - Return of the Warriors 8/27/2000 2 9:43 
 Loss Kiyoshi Tamura Decision (Unanimous) Rings - King of Kings 1999 Final 2/26/2000 2 5:00 
 Win Maurice Smith Submission (Armlock) Rings - King of Kings 1999 Block B 12/22/1999 1 0:50 
 Win Wataru Sakata Submission (Armbar) Rings - King of Kings 1999 Block B 12/22/1999 1 1:25 
 Win Alexander Otsuka Decision PRIDE 8 - PRIDE 8 11/21/1999 2 10:00 
 Win Sanae Kikuta Submission (Guillotine Choke) PRIDE 2 - PRIDE 2 3/15/1998 6 0:43 
 Draw Akira Shoji Draw PRIDE 1 - PRIDE 1 10/11/1997 3 10:00 
 NC Eugenio Tadeu No Contest - Fans Rioted Pentagon Combat - Pentagon Combat 9/27/1997 1 14:45 
 Win Oleg Taktarov KO (Kick and Punch) MARS - Martial Arts Reality Superfighting 11/22/1996 1 1:02 
 Win James Warring Submission (Choke) WCC 1 - First Strike 10/17/1995 1 2:47 
 Win Phil Benedict Submission (Strikes) WCC 1 - First Strike 10/17/1995 1 2:08 
 Win Ben Spijkers Submission (Choke) WCC 1 - First Strike 10/17/1995 1 2:38 
 Win Luiz Augusto Alvareda TKO (Rear Naked Choke) Desafio - Gracie Vale Tudo 1/1/1992 1 7:03 

This is Renzo's record. 

Win Masakatsu Funaki Technical Submission (Rear Naked Choke) C2K - Colosseum 2000 5/26/2000 1 12:49 
 Win Nobuhiko Takada Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 4 - PRIDE 4 10/11/1998 1 9:30 
 Win Nobuhiko Takada Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 1 - PRIDE 1 10/11/1997 1 4:47 
 Win Yuki Nakai Submission (Rear Naked Choke) VTJ 1995 - Vale Tudo Japan 1995 4/20/1995 1 6:22 
 Win Koichiro Kimura Submission (Rear Naked Choke) VTJ 1995 - Vale Tudo Japan 1995 4/20/1995 1 2:07 
 Win Yoshihisa Yamamoto Submission (Rear Naked Choke) VTJ 1995 - Vale Tudo Japan 1995 4/20/1995 3 3:49 
 Win Bud Smith Submission (Punches) VTJ 1994 - Vale Tudo Japan 1994 7/29/1994 1 0:39 
 Win David Levicki Submission (Punches) VTJ 1994 - Vale Tudo Japan 1994 7/29/1994 1 2:40 
 Win Yoshinori Nishi Submission (Rear Naked Choke) VTJ 1994 - Vale Tudo Japan 1994 7/29/1994 1 2:52 
 Win Rei Zulu Submission (Rear Naked Choke) IE - Independent Event 1/1/1984 1 
 Win Rei Zulu Submission (Rear Naked Choke) IE - Independent Event 4/25/1980 1 11:

That is Rickson's record. 

Not submission grappling or BJJ, there Rickson is clearly the best, ever.  But in NHB/MMA Renzo clearly has fought, and beaten better competition. 

 Loss Matt Hughes TKO (Strikes) UFC 60 - Hughes vs. Gracie 5/27/2006 1 4:39 
 Draw Hideo Tokoro Draw K-1 - Premium 2005 Dynamite!!  12/31/2005 2 10:00 
 Win Chad Rowan Submission (Wrist Lock) K-1 - Premium 2004 Dynamite!!  12/31/2004 1 2:13 
 Draw Hidehiko Yoshida Draw PRIDE - Shockwave 2003 12/31/2003 2 10:00 
 Loss Kazushi Sakuraba TKO (Corner Stoppage) PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 - Finals 5/1/2000 6 15:00 
 Win Nobuhiko Takada Decision PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 - Opening Round 1/30/2000 1 15:00 
 Draw Ken Shamrock Draw UFC 5 - The Return of the Beast 4/7/1995 1 36:00 
 Win Dan Severn Submission (Triangle Choke)  UFC 4 - Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 15:49 
 Win Keith Hackney Submission (Armlock)  UFC 4 - Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 5:32 
 Win Ron van Clief  Submission (Rear Naked Choke)  UFC 4 - Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 3:59 
 Loss Harold Howard TKO (Towel Thrown at Start of Match) UFC 3 - The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 0:00 
 Win Kimo Leopoldo Submission (Armlock) UFC 3 - The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 4:40 
 Win Patrick Smith Submission (Strikes) UFC 2 - No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:17 
 Win Remco Pardoel Submission (Lapel Choke) UFC 2 - No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:31 
 Win Jason Delucia Submission (Armlock) UFC 2 - No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:07 
 Win Minoki Ichihara Submission (Lapel Choke) UFC 2 - No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 5:08 
 Win Gerard Gordeau Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 1 - The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 1:44 
 Win Ken Shamrock Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 1 - The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 0:57 
 Win Art Jimmerson Submission UFC 1 - The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 2:11 

Royce's record against folks who didn't know the game, and against lesser competition.  He should have lost to Tokoro as well. 

Rolls is gone, so we can't use him for comparison.  The best Vale Tudo fighter of the family was Carlson (RIP). He also produced some great fighters as well.  Ze Mario, Murillo, Big Nog, Lil Nog, Alan Goes, Vitor, Wallid, Arona, Carlos Barreto, Dede Pedeneiras, etc.......