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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 08:25:06 AM »
Is being a conscientious objector an option?

Would you enlist locally voluntarily, with the agreement you don't get sent overseas?

This is scary.
also, in the fine print of your contract, they pretty much say anything you've been promissed can be scraped at any time they feel like screwing you.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2007, 08:28:04 AM »
This isn't how they operate.  you're right, nobody would go if they enacted it now, that's why it will happen after a huge attack on America.  Several weeks/months of recouping after the attack and a very hungry, angry and scared population will fall right in line.

then i pack up and go bye bye America...plenty of tek jobs to be had in germany..italy etc..
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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2007, 08:30:04 AM »
I am really unsure on this.  After the number of people who see thru 9/11, IMO they will wait another 10 or 20 before trying to convince us to do something big.  I mean, we *could* spend the next 10 years strengthening positions on both sides of Iran, and just gather intel, embargo, black ops to avoid a giant 3rd war.  

hh6 said it right - americans aren't at war, the military is.  The second that every happy American has to pick up a gun or go to a jail cell, it's gonna change the "go-along-with-it" attitude.  Even if they're scared from another atttack (which i pray doesn't happen), i think they'd be MORE likely to want to stay with their family.  

IMO if they can get us to keep paying contractors to do it, they will.  And while the neocons would drool over a war in Iran, I think we're looking at Afgh/iraq becoming places we're always present, and Iran being the place we'll eventually go but aren't.  McCain's joke is a good sign of that - if an attack was scheduled for tomorrow, he'd probably have thought twice about that 'bomb iran' song.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2007, 08:35:23 AM »
then i pack up and go bye bye America...plenty of tek jobs to be had in germany..italy etc..
The plan is to start completely over, minus a number of children.  You'll be exterminated and if you happen to survive the initial extermination event, you'll be "evacuated"  to a safe death tunnel where you think you'll be boarding an evacuation plane but find you're gasping for air as a poison mist fills your lungs. :D  Fun fun fun... so it is written, so they will do it 8)  Oh and don't get in the evacuation line, join up with me, I'll be leading the global resistance againt the morlocks :D

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2007, 08:37:43 AM »
okay, so what kinda health care do we get in there?  At least if we're gonna sit in the sand and shoot iranians all day, they'll hook us up with some good health care, right?

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2007, 08:39:28 AM »
I am really unsure on this.  After the number of people who see thru 9/11, IMO they will wait another 10 or 20 before trying to convince us to do something big.  I mean, we *could* spend the next 10 years strengthening positions on both sides of Iran, and just gather intel, embargo, black ops to avoid a giant 3rd war.  

hh6 said it right - americans aren't at war, the military is.  The second that every happy American has to pick up a gun or go to a jail cell, it's gonna change the "go-along-with-it" attitude.  Even if they're scared from another atttack (which i pray doesn't happen), i think they'd be MORE likely to want to stay with their family.  

IMO if they can get us to keep paying contractors to do it, they will.  And while the neocons would drool over a war in Iran, I think we're looking at Afgh/iraq becoming places we're always present, and Iran being the place we'll eventually go but aren't.  McCain's joke is a good sign of that - if an attack was scheduled for tomorrow, he'd probably have thought twice about that 'bomb iran' song.
I believe we'll be in the global extermination phase by 2012 and I believe they'll pull the major attack on America before Bush leaves office.  I'm thinking a dozen or more cities will be hit hard.  The population will be blindsided, there won't be any truthers and I Imagine in the weeks following the events they will have no problem gathering up the documented, "troublemakers"

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2007, 08:40:21 AM »
okay, so what kinda health care do we get in there?  At least if we're gonna sit in the sand and shoot iranians all day, they'll hook us up with some good health care, right?
You mean like walter reed good :D

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2007, 08:44:01 AM »
that's a scary ass scenario.

wouldn't doing that disrupt the US economy to the point of collapse? 

We're already teetering.  that kinda mess means people stop paying taxes and going to work.  the chinese market had a hiccup last year and the dow dropped bigtime.  our market is fragile and dollar very soft.  we'd lose all footing in global commerce.

man, i pray that doesn't happen.  scary.


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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2007, 08:51:03 AM »
that's a scary ass scenario.

wouldn't doing that disrupt the US economy to the point of collapse? 

We're already teetering.  that kinda mess means people stop paying taxes and going to work.  the chinese market had a hiccup last year and the dow dropped bigtime.  our market is fragile and dollar very soft.  we'd lose all footing in global commerce.

man, i pray that doesn't happen.  scary.


The economy means nothing to these guys, there is a much much bigger picture in their minds...  "ONE" and when this happens, they'll actually be elevated from the social positions of "Rich and Powerful as Hell" to "Gods" or as I like to call them, Morlocks as this is exactly to the T what they're planning.  Sometimes these movies make me wonder, somebody knew a lot.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2007, 08:52:48 AM »
we'd lose all footing in global commerce.
And this is the part that will have people lining up for the draft.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2007, 08:54:15 AM »
THE NEW WORLD ORDER ! :'(
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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2007, 08:55:21 AM »
THE ONLY PEOPLE EATING WILL BE THOSE IN UNIFORM !
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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2007, 08:58:00 AM »
.  Sometimes these movies make me wonder, somebody knew a lot.


i said it once before..

someone spills the beans every now n then...ya gotta be looking in the right direction when it happens..

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2007, 09:27:19 AM »
I dunno.  I hope and pray that nothing like that happens.  And I think that china, india, Eur, and russia are giants we must stay strong to maintain our supremacy.  A divided US, in camps, prisons, drafts, etc, will fall behind in every category worldwide.  While I do believe that corporations do control much of what happens in the world, I believe there are competing factions and there won't be just ONE for many more decades.

Bush doesn't need an attack to justify attack on iran - he can order nuke strikes on his last day in office, and no one can stop him.  We can control their resources just like we are doing in afghanistan and iraq. 

IMO these things are control mechanisms.  Fear keeps us in line.  But attacks, drafts, etc would completely destroy our economy and US *firms* would lose business in other nations.  The corporations would take the hit. 

I don't know.  I'm scared as hell by the thought of it.  But it's still my opinion that the groups doing this are doing it for energy and strategic position - not to start a global war or destory america.  I think cheney and bush love the US and when they leave - incredibly - we WILL be in a much stronger global and energy position than we were in 2000.  Have they done terrible things?  of course.  but for 300 mil folks, controlling iraq keeps us safer and better off financially. 


it's unanswerable.  it's confusing.  my head hurts.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2007, 09:30:12 AM »
  I am nearly blind in my right eye...they would be fools to take me...I can't shoot I will kill everyone.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2007, 09:35:33 AM »
I got a bung knee...and who's gonna feed my cat?


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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2007, 10:06:31 AM »
Conscientious objecter is a really hard thing to get granted, it's usually denied even if you think you've covered all your bases.  I guess you could go down and sign up with your boyfriend :D That should do the trick.

better hurry on that one, the guy from Mass is trying to  get don't ask don't tell rpealed so you could serve openly
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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2007, 10:10:19 AM »
better hurry on that one, the guy from Mass is trying to  get don't ask don't tell rpealed so you could serve openly
Hello, I've already served.  I'm just wondering if the draft includes people who have finished an obligation/past their innactive years.  I don't think anybody knows.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2007, 12:53:16 PM »
Hello, I've already served.  I'm just wondering if the draft includes people who have finished an obligation/past their innactive years.  I don't think anybody knows.

easy tiger, I was talking about the walking in with the BF comment. See you guys need a week off to cool your jets
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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2007, 01:03:17 PM »
I'm 20 and I'm registeredd with that selective services shit, so I think I'd have to go.   >:(

Would I be happy about it? Of course not, but what could I do about it? Fake an injury? Nah.. Purposely score low on a test so I can be safe scrubbing toilets? Nah.. I'd just face it like a man.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2007, 01:28:41 PM »
I'm 20 and I'm registeredd with that selective services shit, so I think I'd have to go.   >:(

Would I be happy about it? Of course not, but what could I do about it? Fake an injury? Nah.. Purposely score low on a test so I can be safe scrubbing toilets? Nah.. I'd just face it like a man.

yeah, i thought about it today a bit.  If there was a draft, I could saw off a trigger finger or move to canada, but part of me is really intrigued by the idea of it.  I wouldn't *want* to go, but I would.  I would hope I could get a job fixing computers or do my time guarding a toilet somewhere instead of in the battlefield.

Oh - are there eyesight limitations to who can serve?  My vision in one eye is pretty damn poor.  I work on a computer and wear contacts so I neve notice it in real life, but distances are not so friendly.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2007, 01:53:44 AM »
I think you people are on drugs - and if you're not you need to be.

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2007, 05:44:40 AM »
yeah, i thought about it today a bit.  If there was a draft, I could saw off a trigger finger or move to canada, but part of me is really intrigued by the idea of it.  I wouldn't *want* to go, but I would.  I would hope I could get a job fixing computers or do my time guarding a toilet somewhere instead of in the battlefield.

Oh - are there eyesight limitations to who can serve?  My vision in one eye is pretty damn poor.  I work on a computer and wear contacts so I neve notice it in real life, but distances are not so friendly.


If so I am safe. I see like 20/80 or something like that in my right eye...that would be my shooting eye.I guess it wouldn't matter with a machine gun. :-\

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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2007, 06:19:37 AM »
LOL... not any more!  It's been pushed up to 42 years old for regular duty and 44 years you're needed for a "skill" And the draft will be coming soon, that's a 100%




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Re: If they started a draft for iraq/iran/afghanistan wars, would you go?
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2007, 07:01:39 AM »

If so I am safe. I see like 20/80 or something like that in my right eye...that would be my shooting eye.I guess it wouldn't matter with a machine gun. :-\

haha it might matter to the guys around you :)

I'm way worse than that in one of my eyes.  Plus sometimes color differentiation is an issue.