Accepting the reality of the situation...

[Decker]

I think the majority here were probably banging the drums and cheering on the war after 9/11

then they changed their minds when things go tough, thank god we have a tough president and not a flip flopper.
The nation is a nation of flip-floppers now.

These type of sites are all over the place:

http://www.50bushflipflops.com/Introduction/home.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/28/politics/main646142.shtml

http://flipflops.compassiongate.com/

As for the topic at hand, it will be a hard row to hoe to ween the US off of oil.  It can be done.  First, we have to stop the enablers--Bush type people, auto/air industry, big oil/fossel fuel--who have been killing off mass transit/alternative oil research from day one.

Then we have to implement a robust program for alternative fuel R&D.  We could go to the moon in a decade.  We can make this happen.

[Hedgehog]

well, i was never a sean penn.  But i was vehemently against it at one point after learning the false pretenses.  Some folks here were anti-war from minute 1.  Took me a little longer to lose the blinders.

At one point?

When was that?

-Hedge