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Aren't there 6 billion people in the world?

Isn't there roughly 1 billion "Christians"?

So are 5 billion people destined to hell because they haven't accepted Jesus Christ as their savior?


Please discuss......am i right about this?

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About 105,400 people a day, 80 billion in all history.


Let's work it out...

If anyone who does not "accept Jesus" I.E. accept him as their lord and savior will surely go to "hell" then the number is monumentally large. So large that it's almost impossible to compute, however I will attempt it.

This person has calculated the number of people who have lived on earth throughout all time.
http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ramsey/People.html

He calculates about 96,100,000,000 people. I will use his calculation for simplicity purposes. So if we assume that about 96,100,000,000 people have lived on the earth in it's entire history, that being 96 billion people.

The question is, did everyone who lived before Jesus died end up in hell? I'll get to that in a moment.

According to
http://www.religioustolerance.org/worldrel.htm Currently christians make up about 2.3 billion people. That's 32% of the world population and dropping.

I'm going to be conservative and assume that 100% of self professed Christians go to heaven. This is not in jive with what the bible actually says or what most Christian denominations claim but I'll go with that number for simplicity purposes.

This means that 68% of the people currently alive will end up in hell. That is about 4.4 billion people. That is 4,400,000,000 people. All of them will go to hell when they die.

According to the CIA's World Factbook 56,597,034 people die each year. This is about 155,000 a day.

68% of 155,000 is 105,400 people. This means that 105,400 people go to hell each day.

Now let's look at the number of people who have lived on the earth in all history. In the year 0 A.D. there were around 300,000,000 people on Earth. This was before Jesus' purported "sacrifice". Let's assume for conservative purposes that the only people who went to heaven before this were Jews. Gods chosen people. Jews currently make up less than 1% of earths population and this number hasn't changed much in 2,000 years. So let's just wipe them from the equation.

As mentioned earlier, About 96 billion people have existed on the earth in it's entire history. If we go by current numbers (which is a very very conservative estimate) then about 32% of people in history have 'accepted Jesus'.

If we use this conservative number then that means that about 65 billion people are currently in hell. This is of course as mentioned above a very conservative number. The real number would likely be closer to 80 billion due to the fact that the ratio of Christians has gone up in the past 1,800 years.

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so god has gone through the trouble of creating 80+ billion souls just to cast them down to hell because they didn't accept Jesus as their savior?   

And this is the way he figures how the cream rises to the top?

Oh boy.   ::)

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Man if I had a dollar from each of those people that went to hell................

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so god has gone through the trouble of creating 80+ billion souls just to cast them down to hell because they didn't accept Jesus as their savior?   

And this is the way he figures how the cream rises to the top?

Oh boy.   ::)

OzmO, I assume you agree there are a lot of suppositions in Wikidudeman's post (no offense to Wikidudeman).

Is your above post reflecting your feeling on that or are you assuming that Wikidudeman's information is accurate?   If you do assume Wikidudeman's information is accurate, do you believe this because you've researched his claims and came to the same conclusion?


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OzmO, I assume you agree there are a lot of suppositions in Wikidudeman's post (no offense to Wikidudeman).

Is your above post reflecting your feeling on that or are you assuming that Wikidudeman's information is accurate?   If you do assume Wikidudeman's information is accurate, do you believe this because you've researched his claims and came to the same conclusion?




If it's 80 billion or 40 billion what would be the difference?  What if it's 20 billion?  The point isn't in the exact amount.

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If it's 80 billion or 40 billion what would be the difference?  What if it's 20 billion?  The point isn't in the exact amount.

Oh sorry  :-[  I thought from the name of this thread you were wondering about the amount.

So is your point that you think that everyone should go to heaven?
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You don't have to Tu  :)

No, I think I'm ok with that.

I mean, all my friends will be there, plus the best musicians... I mean, We're bound to get the Rolling Stones and most of the 80s Rock gods... Besides, I've always wanted to ask Hitler "What the fuck were you thinking?"

We'll be fine.

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2007, 11:56:44 AM »
Besides, I've always wanted to ask Hitler "What the fuck were you thinking?"


hehehe

No, I think I'm ok with that.

I mean, all my friends will be there, plus the best musicians... I mean, We're bound to get the Rolling Stones and most of the 80s Rock gods...

There are different ideas of what hell would be like.  Some believe that it's total isolation from others and God.  Some think it will be a party.  It wouldn't be "hell" if it were a party imo.

It's probable that some people we'd expect to be there won't and some we wouldn't expect to be there will.
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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2007, 11:59:28 AM »
hehehe

There are different ideas of what hell would be like.  Some believe that it's total isolation from others and God.  Some think it will be a party.  It wouldn't be "hell" if it were a party imo.

Ah, but since no one knows what Hell is actually LIKE... You'll never know til you get there.


It's probable that some people we'd expect to be there won't and some we wouldn't expect to be there will.


Well, according to most Christians, I'll be there... oddly enough, I bet most of them will as well.

I will never believe that if you "repent" and just "believe" that you will automagically get in... That's just insane.

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2007, 12:23:33 PM »
Ah, but since no one knows what Hell is actually LIKE... You'll never know til you get there.

I wouldn't want to chance it!



Well, according to most Christians, I'll be there... oddly enough, I bet most of them will as well.

No doubt, some that profess to be Christians will.



I will never believe that if you "repent" and just "believe" that you will automagically get in... That's just insane.

In a way it seems too easy doesn't it? 

Prov 14:12 - There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

1 Cor 1:18-31 - For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Eph 2:8,9 - You are saved by grace through faith and not of works, so that no one can boast.


But for some it's very difficult to accept that they would be in need of a savior in the first place. 
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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2007, 12:56:40 PM »
OzmO, I assume you agree there are a lot of suppositions in Wikidudeman's post (no offense to Wikidudeman).

Is your above post reflecting your feeling on that or are you assuming that Wikidudeman's information is accurate?   If you do assume Wikidudeman's information is accurate, do you believe this because you've researched his claims and came to the same conclusion?

My numbers are fairly accurate give or take a few billion. If indeed the only way to get into heaven is to "accept Jesus Christ as ones lord and savior" then my numbers are quite accurate. The number of people who would currently be in hell would be around 80(+-15) billion.

No, I think I'm ok with that.

I mean, all my friends will be there, plus the best musicians... I mean, We're bound to get the Rolling Stones and most of the 80s Rock gods... Besides, I've always wanted to ask Hitler "What the fuck were you thinking?"

We'll be fine.

Maybe Hitler 'accepted Jesus Christ as his lord and savior' right before he killed himself. You never know... ;)

hehehe

There are different ideas of what hell would be like.  Some believe that it's total isolation from others and God.  Some think it will be a party.  It wouldn't be "hell" if it were a party imo.

It's probable that some people we'd expect to be there won't and some we wouldn't expect to be there will.


Here is what the bible says about it...

Psalm 11:6
Upon the wicked He will rain snares; Fire and brimstone and burning wind will be the portion of their cup.

Rev 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Matt 13:50
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Mark 9:48
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Revelation 14:10

The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.


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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2007, 01:11:28 PM »
Oh sorry  :-[  I thought from the name of this thread you were wondering about the amount.

So is your point that you think that everyone should go to heaven?

My point is that organized religion by it's nature touts their religion and views as exclusive in regards to going to heaven forsaking billions in the process.    (even in  Christianity, we see division as to how to get to heaven) How many of those billions of souls never heard of Jesus?   In todays age, much more do, but they are most likely not swayed because the religion is foreign to them.

God knows this, yet he will cast all these billions to hell? 

That's the inherent flaw in organized religion:   My way or the highway.   

It's arrogant and ignorant to think that.

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2007, 01:43:56 PM »
My point is that organized religion by it's nature touts their religion and views as exclusive in regards to going to heaven forsaking billions in the process.    (even in  Christianity, we see division as to how to get to heaven) How many of those billions of souls never heard of Jesus?   In todays age, much more do, but they are most likely not swayed because the religion is foreign to them.

God knows this, yet he will cast all these billions to hell? 

That's the inherent flaw in organized religion:   My way or the highway.   

It's arrogant and ignorant to think that.

I agree with you.

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2007, 11:46:53 AM »
My point is that organized religion by it's nature touts their religion and views as exclusive in regards to going to heaven forsaking billions in the process.    (even in  Christianity, we see division as to how to get to heaven) How many of those billions of souls never heard of Jesus?   In todays age, much more do, but they are most likely not swayed because the religion is foreign to them.

God knows this, yet he will cast all these billions to hell? 

That's the inherent flaw in organized religion:   My way or the highway.   

It's arrogant and ignorant to think that.

OzmO, I think you will find this interesting (from comparativereligion.com)

(Loco, will you please comment on the below also?)

How can those who never heard about Christ

be saved?


by Ernest Valea

This question is a natural outcome when Christians state that Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross is the only possibility for human salvation. From the very beginning, we have to emphasize an important aspect when assessing this issue: Such a question can be raised only by those who have heard about Jesus Christ. So none of us belongs to the category of those who never heard about him. Therefore posing this question can be either a way of justifying one's adherence to atheism or to other religions (since the answer is not easy at all), or the way of expressing a genuine interest for understanding how one's Christian faith can be reconciled with the claims of other religions. Whatever the case might be, finding a proper answer to this question is important.

Two extremes must be avoided when addressing the salvation of those who have never heard about Christ. First, if humans can be saved only after hearing about him, the multitudes which never had this chance during their lifetime would necessarily be damned to eternal suffering in hell. It is obvious that such a cruelty would not be consistent with his love for us, which sent Christ to die on the cross for our sins. If God is all-loving, all-knowing and all-powerful, he must have a solution for those who have never heard about his final revelation in Jesus Christ.

Second, if all other religions were valid ways to God, the Christian claim that Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross is the only possibility for human salvation should be rejected. If humans could have worked out their salvation by carefully following any available known religion, God shouldn’t have admitted the crucifixion of Christ. Christianity would have been a mere extra alternative to reach God to those already existing, and Jesus only one religious teacher among others.

However, Jesus himself claimed to be the only possibility for our salvation and reconciliation with God. He said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14,6). He commanded his disciples to go and proclaim this truth in the whole world (Matthew 28,18-20; Mark 16,15-16). If other religions were as good as Christianity in attaining salvation, the effort of Christian missionaries would be absurd. Why would so many have sacrificed their lives? Only to proclaim one of the many alternatives to reach God?

Therefore we cannot sacrifice the uniqueness of Jesus’ atonement on the altar of modern syncretism. According to Christianity, salvation is provided only as a result of the specific historical deeds of Jesus Christ in his life, death on the cross, resurrection and ascension. What he did is absolutely essential for the salvation of any human being who has ever lived, whether thousands of years BC or nowadays. And no human being is excluded from God's plan of salvation. The Apostle Paul states: "God wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth" (1 Timothy 2,4). This is what Christianity holds.

But then we face a difficulty: Is possible that only those who have heard about Christ can be saved? Or is salvation also available for those who haven't heard about him? The element which solves this dilemma is the criteria according to which God will judge those who never heard about Christ and grant them salvation. The Bible states that God is holy and will judge humans with justice (Acts 17,31), according to the available measure of revelation they had and their response to it, expressed through their deeds (Romans 2,6), words (Matthew 12,36-37) and thoughts (Hebrews 4,12). The amount of revelation one has determines a consequent measure of responsibility on his behalf (Luke 12,47-48). In the Western world, almost anyone has elementary knowledge about Christianity, and therefore the terms of one's salvation are clear. As for those who never had the chance to hear the Christian message or heard a perverted version of it, it is obvious that their judgment will require other criteria than responding to the historical Jesus Christ.


Grace attributed retroactively


Surprisingly, in Hebrews 11 we can find a whole list of people who never heard about Christ but still are saved. Before analyzing these cases, we must acknowledge that if salvation depended exclusively on how much information one had about Christ, we would affirm a form of Gnosticism (salvation through attaining the right knowledge of spiritual realities). But God does not limit his grace to those who have enough information of him. The examples mentioned in Hebrews 11 prove that the salvation of those who never heard about Christ depends on two basic requirements: 1) their response to the amount of revelation they had, which is their responsibility; 2) the retroactive conferring of Christ’s sacrifice on the basis of their faith, which is God’s responsibility. Let us see how this works.

This text gives many examples of people who lived before Christ and were saved without hearing about him. Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Rahab, David and others, are all considered heroes of faith, despite the fact that none of them heard about Christ. Jacob (Genesis 49,10), Moses (Deuteronomy 18,15) and David (Psalm 22) prophesied about his coming, but had a very limited understanding of its meaning. Others like Rahab (Joshua 2,1-21; Hebrews 11,31), Naaman the Syrian (2 Kings 5,1-19; Luke 4,27), Melchizedek (Genesis 14,17-20; 7,2,15-17) and Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses (Exodus 18), were saved although they didn’t even belong to the people of Israel. They responded with faith to the small amount of revelation they had, and as a result God conferred on them retroactively the atoning sacrifice of Christ. Faith is the key element here. Not knowledge saves us, but God, as we respond in faith to his revelation, no matter how limited it might be. Faith means trusting the promises of God and responding to him through effective action (Hebrews 11,1-3). It is not a mere understanding of the doctrine of salvation.

Let us notice what these people of the Old Testament were asked to do and how they responded to God's call: Noah was warned about the imminent coming of the flood; his response proved his faith in God’s promise to save him together with his family (Genesis 6-9). Abraham trusted God’s promise that he would be blessed with a son and become the ancestor of a big nation (Genesis 12-22; Hebrews 11,8-19). God proclaimed him righteous because of his faith: "Abram believed the Lord, and he credited it to him as righteousness" (Genesis 15,6). Isaac, Jacob and Joseph, the descendants of Abraham, trusted in God and were blessed. Moses trusted that God would free the Jewish nation from Egyptian bondage and lead them into the promised land (Hebrews 11,20-22).

Not only people belonging to the chosen people of Israel are said to be saved, but also Gentiles. Melchizedek is a mysterious character who had no family ties with Abraham, but still was called "priest of the God Most High" (Genesis 14,18). He worshiped the same God, and Abraham paid tithes to him. Jethro, the father-in-law of Moses, finding out what God had done through the Jewish nation, accepted by faith that the God of Moses was the true god. Rahab, the prostitute (!), risked her life in order to hide the Jewish scouts (Joshua 2,1-21; Hebrews 11,31). This was the effective way she expressed her faith in the true God and therefore was counted among the heroes of faith. Naaman the Syrian (2 Kings 5,1-19; Luke 4,27) banished his pride when he understood who the true God was, proving his faith by the decision to abandon idolatry.

None of these people of the Old Testament were saved through their merits, but through the grace of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, retroactively attributed to them. Their faith was the channel through which God granted them salvation. Today he uses the same channel for all people who accept the sacrifice of Christ as the atoning solution for their sins (Hebrews 11,39-40). Although today we have available the final revelation of God through Christ, the object of faith has always been the same - God himself, and the basis of his forgiveness was always Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. Whether one lived before or after Jesus’ crucifixion, God’s forgiveness was always granted through grace and not by one’s own merits, and the proper way of accepting grace was always faith.

 
Salvation for those who never heard about Christ but accept the importance of grace


A classic example of how people belonging to cultures foreign to the Judeo-Christian world can still have a revelation of God and meet him is the Magi from the east mentioned in Matthew 2,1-12. Despite the fact that they were astrologers and probably believed that human destiny is shaped by the stars, which is contrary to biblical teaching, they were still granted a special revelation from God regarding his intervention to save humankind from sin. They worshiped Jesus as king of the Jews and brought him gifts worthy of a king. Their coming to Bethlehem was obviously not customary. It was not a rule for the Magi to worship a new king born in Judea. Their visit was rather a surprise for all, and a serious reason for Herod to feel his throne threatened. This example shows that God can use unorthodox methods to reveal himself to those who are completely foreign to his revelation in the Bible. He has sufficient means to do it all over the earth. Again we can notice that the most important factor in defining faith is human response to his revelation. The Magi could have ignored the Bethlehem star. However, their journey proves their faith and this faith brings them to worship the true God.

The problem of humanity has never been the lack of revelation, but rather pride and the refusal of grace. People do not respond to the amount of revelation they already have; they know what to do, but refuse to do it. Most of Jesus’ contemporaries rejected him because they refused to believe despite all fulfilled prophecies, miracles, healings and even despite his resurrection. The Parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16,19-31) is extremely relevant here. People are given everything they need in order to be saved, but if they refuse the available revelation, they are fully responsible for it and cannot be justified at God’s judgment. The crucifixion of Jesus Christ tells us that humans cannot please God by their own efforts and that God’s grace is an absolute necessity for us.

One more aspect must be addressed here: If people can be saved without hearing about Christ, does it mean that Christian missions are futile? By no means. There are two important reasons for Christian missions in the world. First, Jesus himself commanded it (Matthew 28,18-20). He is the final revelation of God and his message of salvation has to be proclaimed "to the ends of the earth" (Acts 1,8). That people can be saved without hearing about Christ is only a temporary solution, which operates only until his message will reach all people. Second, all people should share the fullness and blessings of the Christian life, not only in eternity, but also during this present earthly life. Jesus came to redeem our earthly life as well, so that we could start to experience his love now, in a personal relationship with him and also in the Christian community.

If the salvation of tribes living in remote areas depended entirely on missionaries’ preaching, a lot of people would suffer eternal damnation in hell only because Christian missionaries didn’t manage to reach their part of the world in time. In many cases the disobedience of Christians to go into remote parts of the world would be responsible for that. Even worse is the case of missionaries that have reached remote parts of the world but didn't preach the "right" Jesus. Remember how the New World was colonized. Christian missions have not always been inspired by love. They haven't always preached the message of love, but one of greed and hypocrisy. Therefore, God could not condemn people to hell only because his so-called followers perverted his message. This wouldn't be at all consistent with God’s perfect justice and love for the lost.

God didn’t leave the world without a proper testimony about himself (Acts 14,17) and doesn’t condemn anybody without first revealing his grace. Although this article may not offer an acceptable answer to the question in the title, nobody’s salvation depends on how convincing such an answer could be. The sacrifice of Christ on the cross is and remains the only ground for human salvation. Rejecting it (by those who have heard about him) cannot be justified by the lack of intellectual satisfaction one gets from polemical debates.

 




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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2007, 11:58:29 AM »
It's all good, but based on the amount of revelation and how your culture conditions you to respond to it makes his assertions unrealistic.


Put it all in reverse:   How fair and divine would it be if in the end we find out that Islam was REALLy the truth?   You were exposed to it and didn't act on it,  instead you follow the Untrue religion......

 

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2007, 11:42:10 AM »

If we use this conservative number then that means that about 65 billion people are currently in hell.

I'm guessing that Hell is quite full right now. So Ghandi is in the same place as Hitler? Deosn't make any sense....

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2007, 03:34:24 PM »
I have to repeat the question that started this topic to try and use good logic to understand it.

The question was about how many people are going to hell because they haven't accepted Jesus?

Why would you use that as the only barometer as to whether a person could go to hell?
What does that mean to accept Jesus when the #1 martyr in human history was assassinated and crucified on a cross?
Why do many people ignore the concept that the world in which we have all been living is basically hell on earth?

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2007, 07:36:57 AM »
OzmO, I think you will find this interesting (from comparativereligion.com)

(Loco, will you please comment on the below also?)

Thanks for posting this, STella!  This is a great article. 

Calculating the number of people who are in hell may be a fun task for some who have way too much time in their hands, but it really is impossible, ridiculous and you have to assume way too much. 

For example: Before Jesus, people didn't go to hell because they were not Jews.  Noah, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, etc, did not go to hell and they were not Jews.  Jews come from the tribe of Judah.  Judah was one of the 12 sons of Jacob.  Before Jacob, there was no Israel and there were no Jews.  Yet, many people went to heaven before then.  How?  By their faith in God's revelation.

Habakkuk 2:4
"but the righteous will live by his faith"

What is God's revelation today? 

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2007, 07:40:47 AM »
fucck religion and fucck Christianity, they were both man made and men are flawed and imperfect.

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2007, 08:04:07 AM »
men are flawed and imperfect.

I agree.     ;D

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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2007, 08:06:14 AM »
fucck religion and fucck Christianity, they were both man made and men are flawed and imperfect.
fuck you too, f aggot.
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Re: How many people are going to hell becuase they haven't accpeted Jesus?
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2007, 08:12:59 AM »
fuck you too, f aggot.
hahahahahahaha, looks like we've got another simpleton who believes that he will go to hell if he eats meat on Friday or calls Muhammad the child molesting pedophile that he was.