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EVH
« on: April 25, 2007, 12:49:22 PM »


Pre and Post Rehab. Looks a lot better.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2007, 03:15:43 PM »
when was the post pic taken?

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Re: EVH
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007, 04:31:29 PM »
Past weekend. He was a guest in Arizona for some race event.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2007, 07:06:07 PM »
Past weekend. He was a guest in Arizona for some race event.

Good to see EVH healthy.  :)

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Re: EVH
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2007, 07:35:42 PM »
back to the balance tour do,long hair on a fifty yr old is just ridiculous,it's not diver down tour no more.....

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Re: EVH
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2007, 08:05:50 PM »
I was watching some video's on fenders myspace page of him before he went into rehab. He looked horrible. Like when you're in a conversation with a guy you know is fucked up and he makes you nervous like he's gonna fall over and have a seizure.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2007, 08:50:46 PM »
Valerie Bertinelli (Eddie's ex now) used to be pretty hot and now she's doing Jenny Craig with Kirstie Alley.

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Re: EVH
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2007, 08:54:39 PM »
he's lookin really good. cocaine is one helllluuvvaa drug.

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Re: EVH
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2007, 06:59:28 AM »
he's lookin really good. cocaine is one helllluuvvaa drug.

rumors were that Ed was drunk ALL the time and was also using meth, I don't have a good pic but he was sporting "meth mouth" for awhile.  Ed was a mess for the 04 tour and the songs they recorded, I recently got a "soundboard" recording of an 04 show and he's TERRIBLE, not even close to what he's capable of.  Ed used to be one of those guys who could go out trashed and still play his ass off but it's really caught up with him in the last few years.   I wouldn't say the 04 songs were horrible but they weren't "good" by VH standards.

Ed says he has 10 albums worth of new material and I know for a fact that there's TONS of leftover VH tracks from both the Dave and Sammy era's...take those tunes, remaster them if they need it and put out a boxed set.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2007, 07:22:17 AM »
rumors were that Ed was drunk ALL the time and was also using meth, I don't have a good pic but he was sporting "meth mouth" for awhile.  Ed was a mess for the 04 tour and the songs they recorded, I recently got a "soundboard" recording of an 04 show and he's TERRIBLE, not even close to what he's capable of.  Ed used to be one of those guys who could go out trashed and still play his ass off but it's really caught up with him in the last few years.   I wouldn't say the 04 songs were horrible but they weren't "good" by VH standards.

Ed says he has 10 albums worth of new material and I know for a fact that there's TONS of leftover VH tracks from both the Dave and Sammy era's...take those tunes, remaster them if they need it and put out a boxed set.

I wouldn't doubt meth. I mean what fucking 50 something does an interview with his shirt off and mumbling.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2007, 07:59:34 AM »
I wouldn't doubt meth. I mean what fucking 50 something does an interview with his shirt off and mumbling.

someone said coke earlier, the only time ed was rumored to have a bad coke habbit was during the recording of Fair Warning, I'm sure he's done it but that's the only time he's rumored to use it heavily.  Him and Donn Landee used to stay up all night and work out the guitar parts for that album and then record with the band during the day...
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Re: EVH
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2007, 08:26:17 AM »
Ed used to be one of those guys who could go out trashed and still play his ass off but it's really caught up with him in the last few years. 


Happens to everyone that uses at some point. Many people use their poison of choice, and maintain "normal thinking" while doing whatever the action is at the moment. Eventually, they either have to use more stuff to get high and/or their brain cells start popping left and right, and then they turn into a mess, and that's when people really notice that things have turned for the worse. For some, it happens faster than others. Sometimes because people will just start off taking more than another person.
Stevie Ray Vaughan is a good example....started off as just an outright awesome player, listen to "Live at the El Mocambo." He's powerful, on top of things and just outright killer. Then, listen to the second disc of "Live in Montreux" recorded in 1985, which I believe is just 2-3 later. His playing is shaky at best. Hitting wrong notes, ideas not being executed as they could have been like the former video. He'd hit big time, upped his dose of coke enormously, and was falling apart.
Eventually he cleaned up (around late 86 early 87 if memory serves) and became almost a better player than he was when he was discovered.
Not too many guys actually maintain the intensity of their "using days" when they clean up. Eddie, from what I've heard, seems to have lost an edge-but I'm nowhere near the EVH follower as you N_A, and wouldn't be able to say for 100% certainty.

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Re: EVH
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2007, 08:29:26 AM »
someone said coke earlier, the only time ed was rumored to have a bad coke habbit was during the recording of Fair Warning, I'm sure he's done it but that's the only time he's rumored to use it heavily.  Him and Donn Landee used to stay up all night and work out the guitar parts for that album and then record with the band during the day...

I remember an old guitar world interview (around 94-95 I think) where he said he did blow everyday in 1985. This was around the time he cut off his hair and quit drinking the first time.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2007, 08:55:19 AM »

Happens to everyone that uses at some point. Many people use their poison of choice, and maintain "normal thinking" while doing whatever the action is at the moment. Eventually, they either have to use more stuff to get high and/or their brain cells start popping left and right, and then they turn into a mess, and that's when people really notice that things have turned for the worse. For some, it happens faster than others. Sometimes because people will just start off taking more than another person.
Stevie Ray Vaughan is a good example....started off as just an outright awesome player, listen to "Live at the El Mocambo." He's powerful, on top of things and just outright killer. Then, listen to the second disc of "Live in Montreux" recorded in 1985, which I believe is just 2-3 later. His playing is shaky at best. Hitting wrong notes, ideas not being executed as they could have been like the former video. He'd hit big time, upped his dose of coke enormously, and was falling apart.
Eventually he cleaned up (around late 86 early 87 if memory serves) and became almost a better player than he was when he was discovered.
Not too many guys actually maintain the intensity of their "using days" when they clean up. Eddie, from what I've heard, seems to have lost an edge-but I'm nowhere near the EVH follower as you N_A, and wouldn't be able to say for 100% certainty.

I would say EVH has probably lost an edge but in his defense he really hasn't written anything in along time-I'm not counting the 04 tunes cause he was trashed at that point and Sammy has said he didn't want to be in the studio with him so it wasn't really a cohesive effort.

Ed's songwriting was great in 95 for balance and 96 for best of volume 1, his playing was great in 98 but his songwriting had fallen off. 

What ed needs to do is get a producer who will "produce" the band, not let Ed do whatever he wants...no playing bass, no engineering, no mixing, no co-producing, no writing lyrics, no playing drums...just tell Eddie "get in there and wirte some kick ass music, play your guitar or keyboards but just do that."  let Sammy or dave write lyrics, melodies and sing, let Mike play bass and sing back up and let Al play drums.  the band with Dave or with Sam was at it's best when everyone could be themselves and do what they did best not when everyone is doing what Ed feels they should be doing.  If they can do that again they'll be fine, if it's "the eddie van halen" show it's gonna be a mess like VHIII was. 

I dont' know if Ed can play or write like he used to, he's older now and he's been through alot.  The porn stuff he put out last year was a waste and he played for about 10 minutes at NAMM and it didn't impress me at all, he had no direction with anything he did.  The guy's been a mess for so long it's hard to say if we'll ever see the real ed again. 

like I said, it might be easier to have him and alex sit down with Glenn Ballard who's been thier producer for awhile and go through some of the leftover tracks from the last 25 years and put out a compilation of that stuff.  I know they have a ton of stuff from both era's so it wouldn't be that hard, most of the stuff is recorded, mixed and ready to go.  They'd jsut have to polish it up a bit and it'd be good to go.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2007, 06:33:07 PM »
I think Eddie was probably the last TRUE original innovator when it comes to being totally different in style. Nobody could top him for what he did, back in his day.

Hey N_A, do you know if it's true that EH used a Variac with his Marshall to get his sound on the early albums?

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Re: EVH
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2007, 06:54:13 PM »
Young, on wikipedia the nerds seemed to have broken down his amp sound pretty well.
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Re: EVH
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2007, 07:28:24 PM »
I've heard plenty of rumors about who uses what gear to get certain sounds. I don't believe many of them coming from people other than the players themselves.
But to use a Variac in order to get your sound, it's a little risky, and if all does not go well, you will have quite an expensive little rig that you have to keep buying over and over again.
But thanks, I'll go check out what the nerds have to say. :)

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Re: EVH
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2007, 08:07:04 AM »
Doesn't even look like the same person. Never saw Eddie with a tan before. So whats up with the tour?
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Re: EVH
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2007, 09:05:52 AM »
I think Eddie was probably the last TRUE original innovator when it comes to being totally different in style. Nobody could top him for what he did, back in his day.

Hey N_A, do you know if it's true that EH used a Variac with his Marshall to get his sound on the early albums?


I'm not a guitar player but I do recognize "variac" so I want to say yes, I can look it up.  I know Ed used a stock marshal amp that he did some modifications on for erything up to FUCK or Balance and then he used the 5150 amp, he did have his marshal restored and used it on a couple of songs on balance, I think he used it on Aftershock.  He also used something called a "leslie" pre amp on the solo for Not Enough.  Ed wasn't really an effects guy cause he couldn't afford them when he was learning how to play.  He has used a wah peddle on a couple of things....
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