MAN VS WILD BEAST

[alexxx]

If you ever had to get into a fight with a lion or a tiger what sort of skills would you need to survive?

This is hypothetical ofcourse. Yes Stark your thread made me think.

I am guessing your speed would need to be very high on the list along with agility, strength and stamina.

How strong would you need to be to defeat one of those creatures?

Or would you rather be a ninja like Bruce Lee?

[benchmstr]

as a superior being,i will just use the power of my mind to melt the beast with my eye's

bench

[pumpher]

You would need good eyesight and steady hands for shooting it with a rifle

[alexxx]

as a superior being,i will just use the power of my mind to melt the beast with my eye's

bench

You must be Vin Diesel!

You would need good eyesight and steady hands for shooting it with a rifle

Wise decision.

[The_Iron_Disciple]

You would need good eyesight and steady hands for shooting it with a rifle

Pumpher doens't lack common sense, I see. Something very important when going against an Animal. Another useless thread ... 

[Stark]

I'll be super honest with you, and these are things I have learned by working with Animals also Apex in the time I have worked in a zoo in germany.
They Lions Tigers and other big cats totaly outclass us, they are faster harder and know how to do the dirty quick kill.
As long as we have a gun we stand a chance but only you and a big cat? Good luck is what you need.

[Stark]

Hank your last 4-5 posts were all smilies, try to contribute to the board by actually writing some interesting stuff and stop spamming man.

[marcus]

I'd hate to go against any cat, especially this.

[Stark]

I'd hate to go against any cat, especially this.

The guy who trains all the cats is impressive... like a Steve Irwine for Cats


the Liger is fuckin huge. 

[raisydaisy]

Now lets assume you don't have a gun on you.

Option 1) Outrun it: read this http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004737.html
Those guys run as fast as 50 mph, so running is not an option.
Option 2) Climb on a tree: Are you kidding me? Those mofos are distant cousins of my housecat. They outclimb you any day  easily.
Option 3) Fight it: lions weigh up to 500+ lbs. plus they are damn good fighters. thats why they are classified as PREDATORS. so guess what? fighting isn't an option either.
Option 4) Lay on the ground calmly and wait for help to arrive or the animal to loose interest in you: This is IMHO by far the most promising approach to handle that kind of situation.... but you never know.

btw: having lived in africa i know that most lions aren't man eaters. which also increases the chances of getting away with option 4, namely not to provoke the animal.

[Stark]

Option 4) Lay on the ground calmly and wait for help to arrive or the animal to loose interest in you: This is IMHO by far the most promising approach to handle that kind of situation.... but you never know.

That worked out juuuuust great for this guy here: 

[raisydaisy]

oooouch. that guy was asking for it. i've been to game reserves and national parks with lions in them. first thing they tell you: never ever leave your car or put your arm/head out of the window.

[Stark]

oooouch. that guy was asking for it. i've been to game reserves and national parks with lions in them. first thing they tell you: never ever leave your car or put your arm/head out of the window.

it has been argued to be a fake, how ever me as a gore expert and veteran I lean heavily to the side of.... it's friggen real.

[davidpaul]

I'd use some sort of extreme karate.

[ButtonMan]

I'd use some sort of extreme karate.

Either that or a most muscular .......

[Migs]

i'd put it in an arm bar and make it submit!  Unless humans are going up againt squeirrels we are pretty much outclassed in any environment and stuatation fighting animals.

[alexxx]

I'd hate to go against any cat, especially this.

Awesome vids! In the first one where the tigers are hunting together you see one going down low and the other one jumpin like a whole 10 meters at least over!! That is scary!

Liger oh shit did someone say sabertooth? That is unreal!

[freespirit]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=333_1177624795

[Camel Jockey]

If you ever had to get into a fight with a lion or a tiger what sort of skills would you need to survive?

You'd need to know how to work the safety on your rifle and then pull the fucking trigger.

[Scimowser]

phenomenal lack of intelligence - a ninja like Bruce Lee? 

anyway i think you would need excellent wits about you, i.e. read the situation and establish the level of threat to you. If you can get away with lying on the ground then do so, fact is if it chases you there is nowhere you can go on foot to escape it. Most important thing is luck i guess, which nobody can control

[Camel Jockey]

phenomenal lack of intelligence - a ninja like Bruce Lee? 

anyway i think you would need excellent wits about you, i.e. read the situation and establish the level of threat to you. If you can get away with lying on the ground then do so, fact is if it chases you there is nowhere you can go on foot to escape it. Most important thing is luck i guess, which nobody can control

You're not supposed to run from these animals ever. The best thing(if you're unarmed) would be to stand your ground and try to punch and kick the shit out of it if it attacks.

[onlyme]

The pics that I put up of me with the animals is from a ranch my friend had in Acton, CA that trained animals for the movies.  They had numerous tigers, lions and a panther.  I feed them a couple times and I gotta say it was some of the scariest times of my life.  The cages were all together and there was a walkway in the middle.  Cages on each side.  I would have a wheelbarrow filled with raw chickens.  When I wold get to the cages ALL the cats would start to yell.  you could literally feel the sound vibration and it was loud.  I would place a chicken under the fence of the cage.  They only thing separating me from a 600 pound tiger would be a fence.  I could feel his breath and see down his throat.  There is no feeling like it.  When you see these cats in person it gives you a whole different perspective.  Not at a zoo where it is 100'+ away.  I mean inches.  You just don't understand how big and powerful these fucking cats are.  They had a male lion that was just unreal.  On all fours it stood my height.  It's paw was easily bigger than my head.  I only got to play with the tigers.  The male cat I guess was too iffy.  The panther too was impressive but you had a sense of "maybe I can kick his ass".  But when it came to the lion or tigers, forget it.  No way.  WHen the bear took me down was the scariest moment I have ever had in my life.  But, I don't think it would have compared if a big cat did it.

[alexxx]

The pics that I put up of me with the animals is from a ranch my friend had in Acton, CA that trained animals for the movies.  They had numerous tigers, lions and a panther.  I feed them a couple times and I gotta say it was some of the scariest times of my life.  The cages were all together and there was a walkway in the middle.  Cages on each side.  I would have a wheelbarrow filled with raw chickens.  When I wold get to the cages ALL the cats would start to yell.  you could literally feel the sound vibration and it was loud.  I would place a chicken under the fence of the cage.  They only thing separating me from a 600 pound tiger would be a fence.  I could feel his breath and see down his throat.  There is no feeling like it.  When you see these cats in person it gives you a whole different perspective.  Not at a zoo where it is 100'+ away.  I mean inches.  You just don't understand how big and powerful these fucking cats are.  They had a male lion that was just unreal.  On all fours it stood my height.  It's paw was easily bigger than my head.  I only got to play with the tigers.  The male cat I guess was too iffy.  The panther too was impressive but you had a sense of "maybe I can kick his ass".  But when it came to the lion or tigers, forget it.  No way.  WHen the bear took me down was the scariest moment I have ever had in my life.  But, I don't think it would have compared if a big cat did it.

That is some good insight Kieth, thanks for sharing. I think a panther would also be a cat you don't want to mess with! Check this out!

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[onlyme]

That is some good insight Kieth, thanks for sharing. I think a panther would also be a cat you don't want to mess with! Check this out!

Jaguar vs crocodile

Jaguar vs anaconda

Jaguar vs giant fish

One of trainers had me go in the cage with the panther.  These cats are so cool.  When you are close you can see the spots like the jaguar.  Then he had me leave and he came in and stood in the middle.  The cage I would say was about 8' wide x 8' tall x 12' deep.  In the back of the cage was a wooden shed for them to sit on or sleep in.  The cat got on top of the little shed.  He then had a whistle and blew it while taking his hand and sticking it out and turning in place.  The cat then jumped on the fence and literally ran around the inside of the cage on the fence without hitting the ground.  He would jump from each side to the other and ran in a circle on the fence.  It was unreal.  He could leap so far so easy.  It was trick they taught him he said.  The panther looks like a really large house cat with big teeth and long claws

[alexxx]

One of trainers had me go in the cage with the panther.  These cats are so cool.  When you are close you can see the spots like the jaguar.  Then he had me leave and he came in and stood in the middle.  The cage I would say was about 8' wide x 8' tall x 12' deep.  In the back of the cage was a wooden shed for them to sit on or sleep in.  The cat got on top of the little shed.  He then had a whistle and blew it while taking his hand and sticking it out and turning in place.  The cat then jumped on the fence and literally ran around the inside of the cage on the fence without hitting the ground.  He would jump from each side to the other and ran in a circle on the fence.  It was unreal.  He could leap so far so easy.  It was trick they taught him he said.  The panther looks like a really large house cat with big teeth and long claws

Unreal! The flexibility, coordination and accuracy on those cats is something else!