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sorry boys..we changed the rules on ya while you were fighting for our freedom...

o btw slavery ws horrible..man o man it ws terrible..and when slavery ended A LOT OF BLACKS MOVED BACK TO AFRICA....wait..noo..the y didn't <GASP>..why not?  i mean living in africa MUST be better than being a slave no?


oo..oo could it be..your own sold you out??  now y dont you blame em also?o no i'm a racist now..lol..thing is..i'm not white..soo i dont care.. ;D



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I saw a program on this - some have tried moving back but the local africans don't like them and consider them 'white'.

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Some did move back... look up the country of Liberia.

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Yeah it funny how they rounded up those from other tribes and sold them to europeans but it was all the europeans and later americans fault. I know that's not the case for all but that is the case for most. I mean hasn't anyone seen Amistad or actually paid attention in history class, obviously allot of African Americans havn't.
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I saw a program on this - some have tried moving back but the local africans don't like them and consider them 'white'.

Marcus Garvey had a "Back to Africa" movement. But he was Jamaican so he would have fit in. WEB Dubois had argued that Am. Blacks were too far removed from their African ancestry.  Dubois was a mulatto, as were most of the blacks who were able to go to college during the early part of the 20th century were (ever heard of the paper bag test?).

Dubois was right, blacks had been mixed with eveything under the sun. There were no true Fulani's or Wolofs in America. And as proof that DUbois was right, Garvey did not like Dubois, he didn't like light skinned blacks (he didn't trust them).

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Marcus Garvey had a "Back to Africa" movement. But he was Jamaican so he would have fit in. WEB Dubois had argued that Am. Blacks were too far removed from their African ancestry.  Dubois was a mulatto, as were most of the blacks who were able to go to college during the early part of the 20th century were (ever heard of the paper bag test?).

Dubois was right, blacks had been mixed with eveything under the sun. There were no true Fulani's or Wolofs in America. And as proof that DUbois was right, Garvey did not like Dubois, he didn't like light skinned blacks (he didn't trust them).


Modern Jamaicans are of African decent...
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Modern Jamaicans are of African decent...

There are various descents; the indigenous people such as the Arawaki, Garifuna and Carib, as well as European, Indian etc. Motto of Jamaica; 'Out of many one people' which is indicative of the cultural heritages of the island.

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There are various descents; the indigenous people such as the Arawaki, Garifuna and Carib, as well as European, Indian etc. Motto of Jamaica; 'Out of many one people' which is indicative of the cultural heritages of the island.



Jamaican Ethnic groups: black 90.9%, East Indian 1.3%, white 0.2%, Chinese 0.2%, mixed 7.3%, other 0.1%......
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Jamaican Ethnic groups: black 90.9%, East Indian 1.3%, white 0.2%, Chinese 0.2%, mixed 7.3%, other 0.1%......

Majority of indigenous people would be classified as black in statistics, though the original descent is not African, which is what you stated. No flame, but I am not getting my knowledge as a google warrior here, I am of indigenous West Indian origin. World knowledge I lack yes, but my region/culture I do know....

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Majority of indigenous people would be classified as black in statistics, though the original descent is not African, which is what you stated. No flame, but I am not getting my knowledge as a google warrior here, I am of indigenous West Indian origin. World knowledge I lack yes, but my region/culture I do know....


Not a google warrior but I happened to read allot about Jamaica a few weeks ago during a debate in which I needed proof rather then just my word and remembered reading about this on a website.

"The island - discovered by Christopher COLUMBUS in 1494 - was settled by the Spanish early in the 16th century. The native Taino Indians, who had inhabited Jamaica for centuries, were gradually exterminated, replaced by African slaves. England seized the island in 1655 and a plantation economy - based on sugar, cocoa, and coffee - was established. The abolition of slavery in 1834 freed a quarter million slaves, many of whom became small farmers."
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I laughed my ass off once at Eddie Murphy when he talked about folks saying Move back home to Africa, Eddie said, FUCK THAT, I'M FROM CHICAGO.
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Not a google warrior but I happened to read allot about Jamaica a few weeks ago during a debate in which I needed proof rather then just my word and remembered reading about this on a website.

"The island - discovered by Christopher COLUMBUS in 1494 - was settled by the Spanish early in the 16th century. The native Taino Indians, who had inhabited Jamaica for centuries, were gradually exterminated, replaced by African slaves. England seized the island in 1655 and a plantation economy - based on sugar, cocoa, and coffee - was established. The abolition of slavery in 1834 freed a quarter million slaves, many of whom became small farmers."

Honestly, I am not trying to flame you, but various things exist, I know this for a fact, not from reading a book lately. Statistics can only do so much in a nation like Jamaica, where numerous people are missed due to regional issues/living remotely in hills etc. Like that quote, and I have read similar things myself, says the Taino are extinct........er ok. In order to make that true I need kill some people I know. Plus the fact that I of am indigenous descent, I am pretty sure we still exist ;)

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Honestly, I am not trying to flame you, but various things exist, I know this for a fact, not from reading a book lately. Statistics can only do so much in a nation like Jamaica, where numerous people are missed due to regional issues/living remotely in hills etc. Like that quote, and I have read similar things myself, says the Taino are extinct........er ok. In order to make that true I need kill some people I know. Plus the fact that I of am indigenous descent, I am pretty sure we still exist ;)



Your taking this too literally and pulling everything out that you can but that doesn't change the fact that a majority of their populous is in fact of African decent. Would you go to Australia and claim it's filled mostly with Natives or Whites, I would have to say whites since well they make up over 90% of the population. Stop trying to claw your way through this and admit defeat.
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Your taking this too literally and pulling everything out that you can but that doesn't change the fact that a majority of their populous is in fact of African decent. Would you go to Australia and claim it's filled mostly with Natives or Whites, I would have to say whites since well they make up over 90% of the population. Stop trying to claw your way through this and admit defeat.

Okay, no problem. I've lived in the region for almost 3 decades, grew up on the history, studied it in school for years, speak the language, see it on a daily basis and have read numerous books from all perspectives. But I can't be bothered, I am not a belligerent type......plus it's kinda funny really...... ;D



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Okay, no problem. I've lived in the region for almost 3 decades, grew up on the history, studied it in school for years, speak the language, see it on a daily basis and have read numerous books from all perspectives. But I can't be bothered, I am not a belligerent type......plus it's kinda funny really...... ;D





OK ummmm well don't know what your trying to get at unless your telling me that even after all the experiance you have that you still don't know much overall about Jamaica. I mean I guess whoever runs the site I got the stats from has no idea what they are writing about...... Oh wait it's a government site that goes by what info they have from Census's and more. I guess Jane Schmoe who is from the area would know more just like most Americans know much about our own history as well. Hey sorry I looked up facts and you only have your personal point of view. I guess I win.
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Honestly, I am not trying to flame you, but various things exist, I know this for a fact, not from reading a book lately. Statistics can only do so much in a nation like Jamaica, where numerous people are missed due to regional issues/living remotely in hills etc. Like that quote, and I have read similar things myself, says the Taino are extinct........er ok. In order to make that true I need kill some people I know. Plus the fact that I of am indigenous descent, I am pretty sure we still exist ;)



It says exterminated can't you read either...... Would you say the Native Americans were exterminated since they practically don't exist as a culture or race anymore, I would.
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sorry boys..we changed the rules on ya while you were fighting for our freedom...

o btw slavery ws horrible..man o man it ws terrible..and when slavery ended A LOT OF BLACKS MOVED BACK TO AFRICA....wait..noo..the y didn't <GASP>..why not?  i mean living in africa MUST be better than being a slave no?


oo..oo could it be..your own sold you out??  now y dont you blame em also?o no i'm a racist now..lol..thing is..i'm not white..soo i dont care.. ;D



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are you suggesting that Kunta Kinte would have gladly changed his name to Toby without being beaten, PF?

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OK ummmm well don't know what your trying to get at unless your telling me that even after all the experiance you have that you still don't know much overall about Jamaica. I mean I guess whoever runs the site I got the stats from has no idea what they are writing about...... Oh wait it's a government site that goes by what info they have from Census's and more. I guess Jane Schmoe who is from the area would know more just like most Americans know much about our own history as well. Hey sorry I looked up facts and you only have your personal point of view. I guess I win.

All I ever said, was that there are different cultures which there are. And wow, you really know Jamaica well, if you believe the stats from there. Naturally the nation with missing roads, many schools that consist of shacks, areas that are unknown where the maroons live, and sheer poverty puts a massive importance on stats. Forget feeding people, those stats come first!


It says exterminated can't you read either...... Would you say the Native Americans were exterminated since they practically don't exist as a culture or race anymore, I would.

No, I can't read. I get your posts by ESP. I see you want to argue, sorry to dissapoint, I'm a bit laid back ;)

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All I ever said, was that there are different cultures which there are. And wow, you really know Jamaica well, if you believe the stats from there. Naturally the nation with missing roads, many schools that consist of shacks, areas that are unknown where the maroons live, and sheer poverty puts a massive importance on stats. Forget feeding people, those stats come first!

No, I can't read. I get your posts by ESP. I see you want to argue, sorry to dissapoint, I'm a bit laid back ;)



Well my point is just that Jamaica as it is today is run by and mostly populated by people of African decent. Oh yeah and what's it like to have ESP I have always wanted to know.... ;D
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Well my point is just that Jamaica as it is today is run by and mostly populated by people of African decent. Oh yeah and what's it like to have ESP I have always wanted to know.... ;D

Nice post, you're my new best friend :D

Yup, it is majority black, but there is a huge over perception that it is almost 'all black' [not you, just generally]. The stats are pretty ghey really as the poverty does make recording stuff pretty hard, when people live deep in the hills with no road access in a wooden shack, they tend to be missed. Not helping the fact is that people like myself dodge the census takers harder than Jehovah Witnesses as quite frankly, they bore me.

ESP is cool. All my people have it ;D

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Some did move back... look up the country of Liberia.

damn man lol cant ya just once blow up at me or summthin... :-\
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are you suggesting that Kunta Kinte would have gladly changed his name to Toby without being beaten, PF?

i'm calling foriegner...who be this kunta kinte person be again?
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i'm calling foriegner...who be this kunta kinte person be again?

From the 80's TV series named Roots. Kunta Kinte was a slave that was brought over to the states and he got whipped like crazy when he refused to accept his new-world name, which was Toby.

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Yup, it is majority black, but there is a huge over perception that it is almost 'all black' [not you, just generally]. The stats are pretty ghey really as the poverty does make recording stuff pretty hard, when people live deep in the hills with no road access in a wooden shack, they tend to be missed. Not helping the fact is that people like myself dodge the census takers harder than Jehovah Witnesses as quite frankly, they bore me.

South Asian indentured servants brought ganja to the Jamaica and to the new world. You owe a debt of gratitude to us south asian folks and people from Guyana and shit.   ;)

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From the 80's TV series named Roots. Kunta Kinte was a slave that was brought over to the states and he got whipped like crazy when he refused to accept his new-world name, which was Toby.




o yeah...my auntie meena ws really into that show..

if i remember right ..it ws the MOST boring show ever ever ever made..
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Nice post, you're my new best friend :D

Yup, it is majority black, but there is a huge over perception that it is almost 'all black' [not you, just generally]. The stats are pretty ghey really as the poverty does make recording stuff pretty hard, when people live deep in the hills with no road access in a wooden shack, they tend to be missed. Not helping the fact is that people like myself dodge the census takers harder than Jehovah Witnesses as quite frankly, they bore me.

ESP is cool. All my people have it ;D


Heres some more number concerning poverty and employment.

GDP - per capita (PPP):    $4,600 (2006 est.) 

GDP - composition by sector:   agriculture: 5.2% industry: 27.3% services: 67.5% (2006 est.) 

Labor force:    1.1 million (2006 est.) 

Labor force - by occupation:   agriculture: 18.1% industry: 17.3% services: 64.6% (2004) 

Unemployment rate:    11.3% (2006 est.) 

Population below poverty line:   14.8% (2003 est.) 



They def aren't doin the greatest but also consider almost half the population doesn't have a legal job since there pop. is around 2 million (probably the ones living outside of cities and villages). One of the biggest problems I have though is what the europeans did to south america and middle america during their occupations, they basically destroyed the natives culture and way of life. Just like the people who lived on Easter Island, they already had enough problems in their history and then come some euros who spread illness and taking thousands of the few there off the island and even though they banned that it was way too late to save the remaining people.

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