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What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« on: May 03, 2007, 08:43:12 AM »
I'm interested to know all the things considered "sins" outside the ten commandments in Christianity.

Off the top of my head i know these 2:

Pre-marital sex
Homosexuality


Please list as many as you can

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 09:51:30 AM »
I'm interested to know all the things considered "sins" outside the ten commandments in Christianity.

Off the top of my head i know these 2:

Pre-marital sex
Homosexuality


Please list as many as you can


1. Not loving God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
2. Not loving your neighbor as yourself.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 10:43:08 AM »
1. Not loving God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
2. Not loving your neighbor as yourself.

Ok,  anymore?

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 11:27:28 AM »
I'm interested to know all the things considered "sins" outside the ten commandments in Christianity.

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Out of curiosity, why only Christianity?  What about Judaism and Islam?

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 11:29:10 AM »
There are no sins... (aside from cold blooded murder and thievery) Just people who believe in sin itself.

That's just my take on it...

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 11:57:09 AM »
OzmO
Out of curiosity, why only Christianity?  What about Judaism and Islam?

Loco,

At the moment, I'm focusing on Christianity for these reasons:

-  I know it far better then Judaism or Islam
-  I'm not that interested in Judaism although I'd like to read the Book of Enoch sometime and discuss why he was raptured (if i remember it right) sometime. And them maybe read about very early Jews, (from Jewish sources)  and how they worshiped.
-  Islam at the moment, would be like learning a new language.

And one of my BIG beefs with Christianity or at least the Bible is what's considered sins.  So i just want to know what people view as sins.

A good example would be:  "women dressing like men" in the OT.  Some Christians say that it applied to Jews not Christians while others don't. 

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 11:58:08 AM »
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Out of curiosity, why only Christianity?  What about Judaism and Islam?
Because he, in a passive-aggressive manner, is trying to make a point about how he disagrees with Christians when it comes to pre-marital sex and homosexuality.  

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 12:03:29 PM »
Because he, in a passive-aggressive manner, is trying to make a point about how he disagrees with Christians when it comes to pre-marital sex and homosexuality. 

I do disagree and I've been very consistent in saying that at least with the homosexuality part, but that's not what I'm trying to do in this instance.  If i was i'd post the topic as something like:  Homosexuality is not a sin.

I'm looking to see how much of it (the sins) I would consider, the "W.O.G." and at the same time see the differences in how many Christians interpret what are sins and what not sins as per the example of women dressing like men i provided.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2007, 12:07:17 PM »
I do disagree and I've been very consistent in saying that at least with the homosexuality part, but that's not what I'm trying to do in this instance.  If i was i'd post the topic as something like:  Homosexuality is not a sin.

I'm looking to see how much of it (the sins) I would consider, the "W.O.G." and at the same time see the differences in how many Christians interpret what are sins and what not sins as per the example of women dressing like men i provided.
I don't know that it's possible to find a finite answer to what you are looking for, bro.  There are SO MANY interpretations of what people believe, even when it comes to the word of God.   :-\

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2007, 12:09:30 PM »
I don't know that it's possible to find a finite answer to what you are looking for, bro.  There are SO MANY interpretations of what people believe, even when it comes to the word of God.   :-\

No doubt,  but there should be some constants.   And not to get too much into a discussion in the wrong direction but ther really shouldn't be, the W.O.G. should be straight forward and virtually free from perversions.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2007, 12:14:43 PM »
I'm interested to know all the things considered "sins" outside the ten commandments in Christianity.

Off the top of my head i know these 2:

Pre-marital sex
Homosexuality


Please list as many as you can


Well, OzmO, let me tell ya...Christians, Jews and Muslims agree that breaking any of the 10 commandments is a sin, and also that pre-marital sex and homosexuality are sins.  That's pretty consistent to me.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2007, 12:26:53 PM »
Well, OzmO, let me tell ya...Christians, Jews and Muslims agree that breaking any of the 10 commandments is a sin, and also that pre-marital sex and homosexuality are sins.  That's pretty consistent to me.

I know that. 

That's not what I'm trying to do here.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2007, 12:32:11 PM »
Loco,

I don't know if you are thinking this or not, but I'm not the kind of guy who is looking for a religion that fits what i believe are sins or not. 

The truth is the truth, regardless of what you or i  believe.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2007, 01:09:30 PM »
No doubt,  but there should be some constants.   And not to get too much into a discussion in the wrong direction but ther really shouldn't be, the W.O.G. should be straight forward and virtually free from perversions.
Constans as far as what?  God's word? 

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2007, 01:25:04 PM »
Constans as far as what?  God's word? 


Yeah like:  "Thou shall not steal", homosexuality, pre-marital sex. 

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2007, 01:30:44 PM »
Yeah like:  "Thou shall not steal", homosexuality, pre-marital sex. 
I'm not sure I understand, bro.  Sorry

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2007, 01:39:03 PM »
I'm not sure I understand, bro.  Sorry

Well you said:

I don't know that it's possible to find a finite answer to what you are looking for, bro.  There are SO MANY interpretations of what people believe, even when it comes to the word of God.   :-\

I'm thinking that there must be quite a few sins outside of violating the 10 commandments that virtually everyone agrees on.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2007, 02:20:16 PM »
Well you said:

I'm thinking that there must be quite a few sins outside of violating the 10 commandments that virtually everyone agrees on.
Wouldn't you agree that some 30 years ago, virtually everyone agreed that homosexuality was wrong?

Once upon a time is was taboo for couples to get divorced due to infidelity, or for other reasons. 


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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2007, 07:36:34 AM »
There are no sins... (aside from cold blooded murder and thievery) Just people who believe in sin itself.

That's just my take on it...

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2007, 08:12:16 AM »
Wouldn't you agree that some 30 years ago, virtually everyone agreed that homosexuality was wrong?

Once upon a time is was taboo for couples to get divorced due to infidelity, or for other reasons. 



Yes in the United States it was, but i don't think it was that way every where in the world. 

On the divorce issue:  I think you maybe getting at something i feel has been a big problem in our Western culture. 

"The instant complex"

We have instant oats, instant coffee, and "instant divorce".   No one, hangs in there any more and tries to make it work.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2007, 11:29:32 AM »
Guess no one wants to touch this one?

Are we afraid we might uncover sins you are not aware of and be forced to give something up?

I saw a sight that listed 600 sins in the bible.  ouch.   probably not too precise however.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2007, 11:36:34 AM »
Loco,

At the moment, I'm focusing on Christianity for these reasons:

-  I know it far better then Judaism or Islam
-  I'm not that interested in Judaism although I'd like to read the Book of Enoch sometime and discuss why he was raptured (if i remember it right) sometime. And them maybe read about very early Jews, (from Jewish sources)  and how they worshiped.
-  Islam at the moment, would be like learning a new language.

And one of my BIG beefs with Christianity or at least the Bible is what's considered sins.  So i just want to know what people view as sins.

A good example would be:  "women dressing like men" in the OT.  Some Christians say that it applied to Jews not Christians while others don't. 

OzmO, why is it that many of your posts breath an air of hatred toward Christians?  You said that you found God in a Christian church.  Did Christians hurt you?  If that's the case, as a Christian, I apologize in behalf of my fellow Christians who hurt you.  I pray you will forgive us.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2007, 11:47:16 AM »
OzmO, why is it that many of your posts breath an air of hatred toward Christians?  You said that you found God in a Christian church.  Did Christians hurt you?  If that's the case, as a Christian, I apologize in behalf of my fellow Christians who hurt you.  I pray you will forgive us.

No, not at all.  How would that happen?

If my posts seem to breath an air of hatred towards Christianity It might be because of the caliber of difficult questions i ask.   For example: Slavery.  Is slavery a sin?

But i don't hate Christianity.

I do, however, challenge the notion of the Bible being the 100% Word of God. 

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2007, 11:59:03 AM »
If my posts seem to breath an air of hatred towards Christianity It might be because of the caliber of difficult questions i ask.   For example: Slavery.  Is slavery a sin?

No, it is not "the caliber of difficult questions" you ask.
 
Just one example is that you keep attacking Christianity on the issue of homosexuality.  Yet, we don't see you attacking Islam or Judaism on the same subject.  Why?  These two other major world religions agree with Christianity on this one issue.

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Re: What are some sins outside the 10 commandments.
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 12:05:03 PM »

No, it is not "the caliber of difficult questions" you ask.
 
Just one example is that you keep attacking Christianity on the issue of homosexuality.  Yet, we don't see you attacking Islam or Judaism on the same subject.  Why?  These two other major world religions agree with Christianity on this one issue.

So slavery is not a sin? 

And homosexuality was something i was comparing the "non-sin" of slavery to.   I suppose i could use something else like gambling or premarital sex. 

So basically it's not ok to fornicate before marriage but it's ok to enslave Children right?