Author Topic: "Joe was a monster!" - Franco "He used to lift like a madman!" - Betty Weider (Read 6209 times)

Bluto · « **on:** May 09, 2007, 03:27:43 AM »

Yes the true stories about the founding father of Bodybuilding, the Master Blaster, the Trainer of Champions - Joe Weider are many - here are a few:

"Frrrred," Franco rolled in his Italian accent, "let me tell you a great story. Arnold, Rickey Wayne, Joe and I were working out at the Hudson Hotel. Rickey was doing curls with the forties, and Arnold and I were using sixties. I said, 'Guys! Look at that!' There was Joe, over in the corner doing incline curls with the seventies!

"So I hollered over to Joe, 'Hey Joe! What are you doing! That's a lot of weight there! ' Joe threw down the dumbbells and picked up the seventy fives. 'Don't bother me! I'm busy! Gotta finish my sets!'

"Can you imagine that?"

Franco continued on, regaling me with stories about Joe's lifting prowess. Betty was standing there listening in to our conversation. She couldn't contain herself any more. Said she, "Yes! Just before Joe and I were married, Joe used to lift like a madman! I remember once... in Florida, I think... Joe was lifting this huge barbell. His face was red, and he looked like he would explode! Joe, how much were you lifting?"

I don't remember! Ask Franco."

"Franco was listening to the conversation. "Six hundred," he said. "I was there! He was doing deadlifts with six hundred pounds for reps!"

"How many reps, Franco?"

"Threes."

"Sets of three with six hundred pounds?" I asked incredulously. "That would put him into an elite class of powerlifting!"

"More like five!" Betty chimed in.

Franco continued, "Joe was a monster, Fred! For people to say he wasn't a lifter, well, they just don't know the guy! Joe was very, very strong!"

dodster · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:33:44 AM »

now u can jerk off to ur own posts .... well done

Bluto · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:34:49 AM »

Quote from: dodster on May 09, 2007, 03:33:44 AM

now u can jerk off to ur own posts .... well done

Why would I or anyone jerk off to posts about strength? You're one sick individual.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:37:48 AM »

haha, self induced masturbation of the mind

Bluto · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:39:58 AM »

This thread is no different than any thread discussing the lifts of Ronnie Coleman, Arnold Schwarzenegger etc. only the perverted, polluted mind would associate weight lifting with masturbation.

Joe knew this. He tried to educate the masses. Teach them to have a healthy sexlife.

He was always a few steps ahead of everyone else.

Even back then.

slaveboy1980 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2007, 03:43:10 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on May 09, 2007, 03:39:58 AM

This thread is no different than any thread discussing the lifts of Ronnie Coleman, Arnold Schwarzenegger etc. only the perverted, polluted mind would associate weight lifting with masturbation.

Joe knew this. He tried to educate the masses. Teach them to have a healthy sexlife.

He was always a few steps ahead of everyone else.

Even back then.

joe was one of the founders and central spokes in the schomeconomic institute, and served as president of it for many terms. the weider principles is probably some homo code.

Bluto · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:01:11 AM »

Quote from: slaveboy1980 on May 09, 2007, 03:43:10 AM

joe was one of the founders and central spokes in the schomeconomic institute, and served as president of it for many terms. the weider principles is probably some homo code.

If you have any legitimate criticism of the Weider Principles, let's hear them, otherwise I suggest you stay out of this thread or find yourself on the Time Out board in no time. Consider yourself being warned.

Bluto, Super Moderator

Hedgehog · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:07:31 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on May 09, 2007, 03:27:43 AM

"Franco was listening to the conversation. "Six hundred," he said. "I was there! He was doing deadlifts with six hundred pounds for reps!"

"How many reps, Franco?"

"Threes."

"Sets of three with six hundred pounds?" I asked incredulously. "That would put him into an elite class of powerlifting!"

"More like five!" Betty chimed in.

Franco continued, "Joe was a monster, Fred! For people to say he wasn't a lifter, well, they just don't know the guy! Joe was very, very strong!"

What a fcuking bunch of bullshit.

600 lbs for 5 reps?

Yeah, that's just as believable as 240 or Busts doing 20 reps with 405 lbs for 20 in the squat, or Abeles' 225 lbs x 112 deadlift.

Franco Columbo is obviously a man without integrity, a brown-nosing Peter Puffer.

What a girl.

Nice to see Hatfield exposing all these three clowns.

-Hedge

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:13:15 AM »

But he's a doctor! Oh wait...

Bluto · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:13:50 AM »

Hatfield isn't exposing anybody. Franco has no reason to lie. He was there. So was Betty. Joe competed in weight lifting.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:48:14 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on May 09, 2007, 05:13:50 AM

Hatfield isn't exposing anybody. Franco has no reason to lie. He was there. So was Betty. Joe competed in weight lifting.

If you want to believe a 50+ year old man, weighing less than 200 lbs, could deadlift 600 lbs for 5 reps, then by all means, go ahead.

-Hedge

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:49:30 AM »

Franco was one of the strongest men in the world he's elite. That's not bs.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:51:31 AM »

Quote from: realkarateblackbelt on May 09, 2007, 05:49:30 AM

Franco was one of the strongest men in the world he's elite. That's not bs.

You didn't read the article right.

Franco claimed a 50+ year old Joe Weider was pulling 5 reps with 600 lbs.

And that is pure and utter bs.

-Hedge

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:56:29 AM »

Speed and stanima go before strength. It's not impossible.

Mars · « **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2007, 05:57:33 AM »

He couldn't even roll it.

davidpaul · « **Reply #15 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:12:22 AM »

I believe it, I mean how mnay bodybuilders did he frigging train up?!!?!?!?

In his early days the guy had THICKNESS AND MASS.

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:27:36 AM »

Any beach photos we see from that period, of Weider looking fit but very average in terms of muscle, 50-year old man on the beach, are obviously doctored. They should be deleted and forgotten immediately, no matter how many of them we see. They must be fakes. They must.

Bluto · « **Reply #17 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:32:58 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 09, 2007, 05:48:14 AM

If you want to believe a 50+ year old man, weighing less than 200 lbs, could deadlift 600 lbs for 5 reps, then by all means, go ahead.

-Hedge

Guy was an animal in the gym. Back in the day they trained so much harder, so much harder. They had to. They didn't have access to the supplements and science of today. We are spoiled. There was no GAKIC "freaky strength in minutes" there was no SuperPump250 or SizeOn, there was no Ester-Bol or Xplo-Bol orals from Fizogen Precision Technologies. None of that.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #18 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:38:00 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 09, 2007, 05:07:31 AM

What a fcuking bunch of bullshit.

600 lbs for 5 reps?

Yeah, that's just as believable as 240 or Busts doing 20 reps with 405 lbs for 20 in the squat, or Abeles' 225 lbs x 112 deadlift.

Franco Columbo is obviously a man without integrity, a brown-nosing Peter Puffer.

What a ####.

Nice to see Hatfield exposing all these three clowns.

-Hedge

exactly Hedge.

Bluto · « **Reply #19 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:39:15 AM »

5 reps was Betty. Franco said 3. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between. 4 reps.

Debussey · « **Reply #20 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:44:20 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on May 09, 2007, 06:32:58 AM

Guy was an animal in the gym. Back in the day they trained so much harder, so much harder. They had to. They didn't have access to the supplements and science of today. We are spoiled. There was no GAKIC "freaky strength in minutes" there was no SuperPump250 or SizeOn, there was no Ester-Bol or Xplo-Bol orals from Fizogen Precision Technologies. None of that.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #21 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:46:35 AM »

Quote from: Bluto on May 09, 2007, 06:32:58 AM

Guy was an animal in the gym.

What makes you think that?

-Hedge

Bluto · « **Reply #22 on:** May 09, 2007, 06:51:16 AM »

Quote from: Hedgehog on May 09, 2007, 06:46:35 AM

What makes you think that?

-Hedge

Lots of things, first off you don't get something for nothing, you telling me would rep out on 600 pounds and NOT being an animal in the gym?

Second, Franco said so. ""Joe was a monster, Fred! For people to say he wasn't a lifter, well, they just don't know the guy! Joe was very, very strong!""

Why would Franco so many years after, when he has nothing to gain from it, lie to Fred?

Third, we just have to examine Joe's background and it all adds up:

"Back in 1939 at age 18, Joe won the City and Provincial Championships in weightlifting, and nearly beat the current Canadian National Middleweight Champion, Joe Sklar. At the time, Joe's best lifts were 225 press, 240 snatch and 315 clean and jerk at 165 pounds bodyweight. But Joe offered his apology anyway, "I was a horrible presser.""

As Dr Squat says - "Not too shabby, folks!"

" I didn't have a belt, suit or nothing." - Joe Weider

Bluto · « **Reply #23 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:01:08 AM »

"I was a crazy guy who wanted to lift big weights -- pull my ligaments and things like that -- I was that kind of guy." - Joe Weider

The Squadfather · « **Reply #24 on:** May 09, 2007, 07:02:31 AM »

Joe Weider had to have a lot of stamina for all of those gay for pay sessions that he was known to pay for, the "man" had an insatiable hunger for the penis.