When choosing hormones, look for 19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3 17 dione. TREN!!!!!!!!!!! Way under the government radar. Just lean quality gains. As an androgen it does not convert to estrogen therefore, no gnarly bloat, no tits, or nasty zits.Extreme gains in both strength and size. Thats where its at my friends when it comes to OTC hormones. Not Methyl bullSH#$ that destroys the liver and side effect central. 6 weeks 10lbs+ LEAN min gains