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Hey guys just some info that I got in SSB from GYMACE board admin, they are taking matter very serious..............
Quote from GYMACE in Law forum in SSB
http://www.steroidsuperboard.com/boa...howtopic=36918"All those who did biz with AP since 2005 until now are on this list released by feds.
It states your full name, address, board ID and email address in addition to exact date when and what gear was purchased, method of payment (includes MTCN, cash in mail dc# etc)...everything! List is in my hands, it is incredible sight. Do not PM me asking are you on this list, becuase if you did biz with him, you surely are.
Conclusion:
A.P. gave feds password of his email accounts and they know everything!!
I recognize many names and addies, they have never been changed. Please, I beg you: cancel all those addresses, close PO Boxes and take all other necessary measures. Feds most likely won't go after you unless you've been ordering tons of gear and I can see dozens of such clients. They can use your info to go after other sources and that's what is worrying factor.
From this day forward we will be banning on slightest suspicion of someone being associated with LE, we reserve the right not to explain ourselves. 10 mods on this board have banning powers and they have my blessing to shoot on sight.
1 more thing, disclaimer of some sort:
I decided to post this in open and will take all responsabilities. SSB Mods were in no way involved in deciding if this info should be posted or not! I am board administrator and stand behind my decision. No other admin or staff member has anything to do with this. "
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#2 Yesterday, 08:27 PM
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why are you posting this here if you are from SSB you already know
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#3 Yesterday, 08:30 PM
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why are you posting this here if you are from SSB you already know
maybe cause some of us arent part of SSB
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#4 Yesterday, 08:45 PM
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Wow....I'm so glad I never ordered from AP...
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#5 Yesterday, 08:49 PM
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Wow....I'm so glad I never ordered from AP...
It doesnt really matter if you ordered from him or not. If you ordered from ANY source.......this is a possible outcome. We all need to lay low.....
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#6 Yesterday, 08:50 PM
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This is a total mess.
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#7 Yesterday, 08:53 PM
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There is only one thing i worry about. People singing like parrots. Big buyers from sources usually have a couple sources they order from. Squeeze the shit out of the bulk buyers from AP and who knows what/who will get ratted on......
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#8 Yesterday, 09:19 PM
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Why is everyone doing this?
Why does everyone feel the need to talk about it? If you ordered..you get the letter etc.
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#9 Yesterday, 09:22 PM
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Wow....I'm so glad I never ordered from AP...
same here.
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#10 Yesterday, 09:22 PM
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Why is everyone doing this?
Why does everyone feel the need to talk about it? If you ordered..you get the letter etc.
Your right, we shouldnt communicate anything with eachother. Nobody should have said anything about AP or his bust, nobody should say anything about the letters, hell why are we even here.........If im not mistaken..the entire idea of a message board is communication? Or am i wrong?
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#11 Today, 12:49 AM
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why are you posting this here if you are from SSB you already know
Bro the forum is to share information pertinant to our hobbies, basically the idea is to inform what is happening out there.........there are always a fallout that may spill.......first of all is a remainder to follow all the precautions when ordering, some of us been in the game long time and some times still forget some of the basics while ordering........
Keep safe, been a witch hunt for some times..............
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#12 Today, 01:19 AM
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Very good post.
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#13 Today, 02:55 AM
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Im glad I never ordered from AP either and thank god someone hacked my computer and ordered a small order from LS. Oh well, not my fault
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#14 Today, 04:27 AM
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the lesson here is...if you get busted, just shut the fuck up! you're going to jail anyway. if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime. just don't be a little "rat" bitch, take it like a man and look out between the bars for a while. your first miranda right is the right to silence...use it. AP is obviously a big pussy, he's gonna do time, i hope it's wearing a snitch jacket.
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#15 Today, 04:39 AM
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the lesson here is...if you get busted, just shut the fuck up! you're going to jail anyway. if you can't do the time, then don't do the crime. just don't be a little "rat" bitch, take it like a man and look out between the bars for a while. your first miranda right is the right to silence...use it. AP is obviously a big pussy, he's gonna do time, i hope it's wearing a snitch jacket.
Only if this would happen. The truth is......99% of the time people arent going to be willing to face the music to protect someone else. Face time or sing like a parrot about people youve never even met in real life? I can hear the music already..........it sucks, but its the truth. Theres no real consequence for those who choose to rat as nobody has even seen eachother.........
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#16 Today, 07:47 AM
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Look guys the feds assume some guys are really fucking dumb. Thats why they're sending out letters to claim etc. They don't have the resources and hopefully don't have the inclination, to go after all of the regular guys who are ordering for themselves.
I agree though that all of this has become too risky to be involved in. Just not worth it anymore.
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#17 Today, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by apventas
Hey guys just some info that I got in SSB from GYMACE board admin, they are taking matter very serious..............
Quote from GYMACE in Law forum in SSB
http://www.steroidsuperboard.com/boa...howtopic=36918"All those who did biz with AP since 2005 until now are on this list released by feds.It states your full name, address, board ID and email address in addition to exact date when and what gear was purchased, method of payment (includes MTCN, cash in mail dc# etc)...everything! List is in my hands, it is incredible sight. Do not PM me asking are you on this list, becuase if you did biz with him, you surely are.
Conclusion:
A.P. gave feds password of his email accounts and they know everything!!
I recognize many names and addies, they have never been changed. Please, I beg you: cancel all those addresses, close PO Boxes and take all other necessary measures. Feds most likely won't go after you unless you've been ordering tons of gear and I can see dozens of such clients. They can use your info to go after other sources and that's what is worrying factor.
From this day forward we will be banning on slightest suspicion of someone being associated with LE, we reserve the right not to explain ourselves. 10 mods on this board have banning powers and they have my blessing to shoot on sight.
1 more thing, disclaimer of some sort:
I decided to post this in open and will take all responsabilities. SSB Mods were in no way involved in deciding if this info should be posted or not! I am board administrator and stand behind my decision. No other admin or staff member has anything to do with this. "
You are saying this list is from 2005...but these two threads are saying this list from the feds is from april til now. so which is it???
http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=39398http://www.outlawmuscle.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=39410I wish someone with some cerdability would post as to which it is.
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#18 Today, 08:58 AM
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I was wondering the same thing. It sounded at first that it was for collections from April to May. But then you keep hearing 2005. There are guys on here that have said list in hand. Should be easy enough to clarify.
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#19 Today, 10:24 AM
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what is considered big buyer, $900 or more or $500 and more?.......
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#20 Today, 10:38 AM
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what is considered big buyer, $900 or more or $500 and more?.......
Depends if your locals are bored. If the feds don't feel like spending the time on the small fish, the feds WILL contact the locals and let them decide if they wanna mess with you or not.
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#21 Today, 10:44 AM
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ok, i see, i havent gotten a letter or anything but i have never had a package sent to the same house within a year of eachother.
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#22 Today, 11:08 AM
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LOL! Where did that rule come in? I missed that part of "Legal Muscle".
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#23 Today, 11:19 AM
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Look guys the feds assume some guys are really fucking dumb. Thats why they're sending out letters to claim etc. They don't have the resources and hopefully don't have the inclination, to go after all of the regular guys who are ordering for themselves.
I agree though that all of this has become too risky to be involved in. Just not worth it anymore.
the letters are just a formality.. they arent trying to get more people by having people respond.. they have to follow the laws and it states that any parties involved in a seizure have the right to dispute it.. same as if you were arrested with drugs in your car and had 5k on you. you have the right to dispute the funds seized were not drug related etc.. this is a little different cause nobody has been arrested that lost $$.. i would be shocked if that list wasnt forwarded to the local police for the guys that spent some big dollars.. its easy to pick out who was a personal user and who was a dealer..
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#24 Today, 11:41 AM
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I was wondering the same thing. It sounded at first that it was for collections from April to May. But then you keep hearing 2005. There are guys on here that have said list in hand. Should be easy enough to clarify.
You would think so. I'm starting to think that some of the people stirring the pot are not who they appear to be. Seems spreading fear and panic would be something that LE would want to do. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, all I'm saying is that until a credible vet or mod clears up the whole "list" thing then something seems fishy.
What are the dates on the list? That should be good enough even.
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#25 Today, 11:47 AM
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Or better yet, pass out the list. If it's public record, then fine. If not, how does someone have that list? Drug dealers usually don't get federal documents.
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