Author Topic: who are your fighting heros? (Read 9814 times)

Nathan · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2007, 09:40:32 AM »

Gommi:I like how he sprints
Fedor:Hits hard almost always lands on top when falling, actually good all around fighter.
GSP:Fun to watch also good all around so you never know what kind of fight you will see.
Cro Cop:Awesome kicks and a awesome straight right
Andy Huge:Good kicking and boxing and powerful with both
Nog:How in the world dose he absorb some of the hits he has? I like his ground game and fairly good boxer also.

Nathan · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2007, 09:44:07 AM »

Quote from: big L dawg on May 17, 2007, 04:21:20 AM

I think holyfield would beat Ali.

I think Holyfield would get killed by Ali! In General I think Boxers were much better in the old days than they are now. In fact I would still be a huge boxing fan if the fights and fighters where like the old days.

big L dawg · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2007, 09:50:46 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on May 17, 2007, 09:37:41 AM

um you do realize that ali knocked out Foreman IN HIS PRIME and Holyfield struggled with a 40+ Foreman while Holyfield was IN HIS PRIME right?

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holyfield Is the only fighter in history to become the heavyweight champ four separate times,breaking Ali's record of three.not sure what you mean by struggled against forman,Holyfield won by unanimous decision.

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #28 on:** May 17, 2007, 02:25:08 PM »

Andy Hug.... One of the greatest ever in my book. I loved to watch him fight..

Bas Rutten... He was a bad ass.

Tyson just because of his knockout power.

BJ Penn when he shows up...

And I guess Remmy Bowjoski (sp.)

Earl1972 · « **Reply #29 on:** May 17, 2007, 09:06:17 PM »

Quote from: big L dawg on May 17, 2007, 09:50:46 AM

holyfield Is the only fighter in history to become the heavyweight champ four separate times,breaking Ali's record of three.not sure what you mean by struggled against forman,Holyfield won by unanimous decision.

he had held the belt one more time than ali

that means he lost it one more time too

yeah he won by unanimous decision but it wasn't an easy fight and FOREMAN WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS OLDER THAN HIS FIGHT WITH ALI

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onlyme · « **Reply #30 on:** May 18, 2007, 12:50:52 AM »

James West

OKMike · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2007, 04:09:28 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on May 17, 2007, 09:37:41 AM

um you do realize that ali knocked out Foreman IN HIS PRIME and Holyfield struggled with a 40+ Foreman while Holyfield was IN HIS PRIME right?

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Ali didn't really knock out Foreman. He could never ko Foreman. He did not have the power to do that. Foreman just gassed from throwing so many punches. Ali could have pushed him over after that.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2007, 08:15:39 AM »

Quote from: OKMike on May 18, 2007, 04:09:28 AM

Ali didn't really knock out Foreman. He could never ko Foreman. He did not have the power to do that.

OKMike · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2007, 08:42:23 AM »

I still stand by what I wrote. Ali did not hurt Big George. He knocked him down only because he was too tired to stand. Foreman was just too physically exhausted to get up. Ali used a great strategy in that fight. Ali knew he would not be able to hurt him, but he did get in his head and made him use all of his energy early trying to knock his head off.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #34 on:** May 18, 2007, 10:11:10 AM »

Quote from: OKMike on May 18, 2007, 08:42:23 AM

I still stand by what I wrote. Ali did not hurt Big George. He knocked him down only because he was too tired to stand. Foreman was just too physically exhausted to get up. Ali used a great strategy in that fight. Ali knew he would not be able to hurt him, but he did get in his head and made him use all of his energy early trying to knock his head off.

While Foreman was certainly tired, he went down because of Ali's punches, not because he was too tired to stand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gok2z-mWaeM

Earl1972 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2007, 10:25:19 AM »

Quote from: OKMike on May 18, 2007, 04:09:28 AM

Ali didn't really knock out Foreman. He could never ko Foreman. He did not have the power to do that. Foreman just gassed from throwing so many punches. Ali could have pushed him over after that.

wrong

and even if that's true foreman was much younger than and never fell down once 20 years later against a prime holyfield

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onlyme · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2007, 04:19:06 PM »

Quote from: OKMike on May 18, 2007, 08:42:23 AM

I still stand by what I wrote. Ali did not hurt Big George. He knocked him down only because he was too tired to stand. Foreman was just too physically exhausted to get up. Ali used a great strategy in that fight. Ali knew he would not be able to hurt him, but he did get in his head and made him use all of his energy early trying to knock his head off.

So what you are saying is if Ali didn't hit him he would have fallen down anyway since he was so tired. I don't think so. Ali was nailing George in that round and hitting very good. Have you ever seen Ali's fist. He may not have been known to knockout people, but he could. He chose to to wear down opponents with jabs and dancing. Get em tired then attack.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2007, 06:48:23 PM »

Josh Barnett- for some reason ive always been a fan of his catch wrestling style of grappling.

Jens Pulver- pretty clean boxing skills and he always brings it, win or lose.

Karo Parysian- sick judo without a gi.

Team Chuteboxe- they all come out throwing and are usually always fun to watch, win or lose.

Randy Couture- he's a good wrestler, but more importantly he's always improving on all aspects of his game (much like his former teammate Matt Lindland), plus he's captain America.

Boxing- James Toney and Rafael Marquez

Alex Gong

"Judo" Gene Labelle

big L dawg · « **Reply #38 on:** May 22, 2007, 08:25:05 AM »

The sad thing is alot of you list Tyson.My point with holyfield look at the competion he fought,not only did he whoop Tyson twice he also fought,George forman,Larry Holmes, fres oquendo,riddick bowe 3 times,Michael moorer,ray mercer,lennox lewis twice,hasim rahman,Chris Byrd,James toney,and thats just the ones I remember.who'd Tyson fight?I mean I know holyfield did not win all of those fights but at least he stepped into the ring with all the best fighters of his time.

Petrucci · « **Reply #39 on:** May 22, 2007, 09:58:31 AM »

Quote from: big L dawg on May 22, 2007, 08:25:05 AM

The sad thing is alot of you list Tyson.My point with holyfield look at the competion he fought,not only did he whoop Tyson twice he also fought,George forman,Larry Holmes, fres oquendo,riddick bowe 3 times,Michael moorer,ray mercer,lennox lewis twice,hasim rahman,Chris Byrd,James toney,and thats just the ones I remember.who'd Tyson fight?I mean I know holyfield did not win all of those fights but at least he stepped into the ring with all the best fighters of his time.

Holyfield fought a washed up Tyson...it was the same person, the same face, but not the same fighter...I dont believe Holyfied would win that before Tyson being in prison...all of that imho off course

SinCitysmallGUY · « **Reply #40 on:** May 22, 2007, 12:44:37 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on May 18, 2007, 04:19:06 PM

So what you are saying is if Ali didn't hit him he would have fallen down anyway since he was so tired. I don't think so. Ali was nailing George in that round and hitting very good. Have you ever seen Ali's fist. He may not have been known to knockout people, but he could. He chose to to wear down opponents with jabs and dancing. Get em tired then attack.

Havent you heard Big George in a recent book claims that he was drugged. The rumble in the Jungle and good Ol' George gets drugged. He was given water before the fight and told his trainer it tasted funny. He even said he almost spit it out. His trainer denies any drugs in the water. I just saw this bullshit on MSN.com talking about George and this new book..,...

Earl1972 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 22, 2007, 04:22:02 PM »

Quote from: Petrucci on May 22, 2007, 09:58:31 AM

Holyfield fought a washed up Tyson...it was the same person, the same face, but not the same fighter...I dont believe Holyfied would win that before Tyson being in prison...all of that imho off course

the question is what makes you think that?

tyson had a mystique, not a resume

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Eric15210 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 22, 2007, 05:55:37 PM »

Bill "Super Foot" Wallace

Bas Rutten

and Ken Shamrock

OKMike · « **Reply #43 on:** May 23, 2007, 08:37:21 AM »

Quote from: SinCitysmallGUY on May 22, 2007, 12:44:37 PM

Havent you heard Big George in a recent book claims that he was drugged. The rumble in the Jungle and good Ol' George gets drugged. He was given water before the fight and told his trainer it tasted funny. He even said he almost spit it out. His trainer denies any drugs in the water. I just saw this bullshit on MSN.com talking about George and this new book..,...

I saw that too. I wonder why he would say this now instead of shortly after the fight? Maybe he just needs controversy to promote his book?

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #44 on:** May 23, 2007, 04:47:19 PM »

Tyson would never beat Holyfield. Shit, even when they fought Holyfield was already getting older. He was past his prime. Tyson looked good knocking out a bunch of chumps and one blown up cruiserweight. He's the Tank Abbott of boxing...exciting knockouts, but never could beat top competition.

Benny B · « **Reply #45 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:13:55 PM »

Quote from: lilwoday09smb on May 16, 2007, 09:19:56 AM

i hate the people that say ali would beat tyson. in there primes. come on tyson would murder ali.

nope
Tyson didn't face great competition in his prime. Ali was, and is The Greatest.

Benny B · « **Reply #46 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:15:53 PM »

Quote from: big L dawg on May 17, 2007, 04:21:20 AM

I think holyfield would beat Ali.

delete your account

big L dawg · « **Reply #47 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:43:59 PM »

Quote from: Benny Blanco on May 23, 2007, 05:15:53 PM

delete your account

Bottom line it would be a toss up.I've been watching boxing since I was five years old.Most people that talk about Ali have only seen like 4 or 5 of his fights. I've watched about 25 of them he's a great fighter but also over rated, he lost at least 4 fights that they gave him by decision and no one remembers those fights because everyone wants to hold on to the charisma he had.He fought forman and Frazier.Who else?maybe sonny listen,and ken norton are the other two you could mention.even though norton whooped him.

realkarateblackbelt · « **Reply #48 on:** May 23, 2007, 05:57:10 PM »

I don't know if he would beat Ali, but Holyfield would give him a run for his money.

Ali, Holyfield, Frazier, and Foreman are the best in terms of boxing; I'm not counting charisma.

Lennox Lewis and Tyson are overrated fighters. Lewis looked bad against Klitschko, and he never had any heart. He beat a washed up Tyson.

onlyme · « **Reply #49 on:** May 24, 2007, 08:43:02 PM »

Tyson was better when he was younger and wasn't the champ. He was hungry and he wanted the belt and fought harder and was focused for every fight.