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The Cross - Interesting
« on: May 16, 2007, 05:33:19 AM »
Laminin is a protein in our body that literally holds our skin, organs, and everything else in our body in place.  Guess what shape laminin is in.



God holds us together with laminin and saved us with the cross.

Laminin:
http://www.bdbiosciences.com/discovery_labware/products/display_product.php?keyID=238

http://www.jcb.org/cgi/content/full/164/7/959?ck=nck

http://bio.takara.co.jp/bio_en/images/enM018a.gif

An image of the core of the Whirlpool galaxy M51 (NGC 5149) taken by the Hubble Space Telescope. It shows an immense ring of dust and gas that is thought to surround and hide a giant black hole in the center of the galaxy.



http://www.scienceclarified.com/Bi-Ca/Black-Hole.html

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Galatians 6:14
May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

Colossians 1:20
and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2007, 05:13:06 AM »
Interesting:  Each laminin molecule is a heterotrimer assembled from four of beta-chains: LAMB1, LAMB2, LAMB3, LAMB4.


http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3404709

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10842354

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminin#Types

John 1:29
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"

Isaiah 53:7
"He was oppressed and afflicted,
       yet he did not open his mouth;
       he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
       and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
       so he did not open his mouth."

1 Peter 1:19
"but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect."

Revelation 5:12
In a loud voice they sang: "Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!"






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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2007, 10:14:45 AM »
No other book provides falsification to prove it wrong, as demanded by the scientific community and finally no other book challenges people of learning to a final debate of authenticity based on knowledge and verification


http://www.rationalreality.com/



without exception evry religion believs itself to be the right one...

this guy wrote a whole book :-\


below i see this proof as 'we've been helped"



The Koran talks about an "expanding" Universe centuries before scientists described it:

"And the sky We built it with might, and we cause the expansion of it."
(Koran 51:47)




The fact that the Universe is not static but in a state of expansion was discovered by the American astronomer Edwin Hubble in the late 1920s, almost 1400 years after the Koran described it.

The Koran mentions that at a stage in its origin, the universe was "gaseous":

"And also, turned He to the sky when it was as smoke.."(Koran 41:11).





The Koran is aware of the phenomenon of "black holes", stars that have collapsed under their intense gravitational field, so that even light cannot escape. The Koran stated over 1200 years before the concept was stated by John Michell in 1767, and 1400 years before John Archibald Wheeler coined the term "black hole" in 1968:

I swear by the sky and (the phenomena of) Tariq.
And what will explain to you what Tariq is?
It is a star that pierces (or makes a hole). (Koran 86:1-3)


just click the bottom of the page(link) for the rest all interesting.

to me this screams we have been 'helped' and its not god..
carpe` vaginum!

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2007, 10:24:27 AM »
No other book provides falsification to prove it wrong, as demanded by the scientific community and finally no other book challenges people of learning to a final debate of authenticity based on knowledge and verification


http://www.rationalreality.com/



without exception evry religion believs itself to be the right one...

this guy wrote a whole book :-\

Cool.

Just to clarify: the fact that laminin holds us together, is shaped like a cross and its beta chains have LAMB in their name does not prove that Christianity is the one true religion, neither does the photo of the black hole that looks like a crucifix. 

I posted this only because I find it very interesting.  That's all.    ;D

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2007, 12:33:18 PM »
Does that mean when people die in cross shaped streets, religion is the reason? ::)

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 12:41:17 PM »
Does that mean when people die in cross shaped streets, religion is the reason? ::)

No, but laminin and the black hole photo are still interesting.      ;D

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 08:25:49 AM »
If you ever have read the Hebrew - Greek versions the word used is actually "stauros", this translates literally

Strong's, Thayer's, and Vine's dictionaries leave little or no room for doubt that "stauros", translated "cross," refers to an upright stake or pole. Ergo...

It is highly unlikely that Lord Jesus was crucified on a T-shaped cross. Instead, He was probably crucified on an upright stake. Science has proven the unlikely hood of a human even being supported on a stake.

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 09:09:04 AM »
If you ever have read the Hebrew - Greek versions the word used is actually "stauros", this translates literally

Strong's, Thayer's, and Vine's dictionaries leave little or no room for doubt that "stauros", translated "cross," refers to an upright stake or pole. Ergo...

It is highly unlikely that Lord Jesus was crucified on a T-shaped cross. Instead, He was probably crucified on an upright stake. Science has proven the unlikely hood of a human even being supported on a stake.


But "stauros" also, according to the standard lexicographical work of the Greek language, can mean a "cross".
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3D%2396298

Also:

"The gibbet on which crucifixion was carried out could be of many shapes. Josephus describes multiple tortures and positions of crucifixion during the siege of Jerusalem (70) as Titus crucified the rebels;[8] and Seneca the Younger recounts: "I see crosses there, not just of one kind but made in many different ways: some have their victims with head down to the ground; some impale their private parts; others stretch out their arms on the gibbet."[9]

At times the gibbet was only one vertical stake. This was the simplest available construction for torturing and killing the criminals. Frequently, however, there was a cross-piece attached either at the top to give the shape of a 'T' (crux commissa) or just below the top, as in the form most familiar in Christian symbolism (crux immissa).[10] Other forms were in the shape of the letters X and Y.

The earliest writings that speak specifically of the shape of the cross on which Jesus died describe it as shaped like the letter T (the Greek letter tau),[11] or composed of an upright and a transverse beam, together with a small peg in the upright.[12]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion#Cross_shape

8. Josephus, Wars of the Jews, 5.11.1
 
9. Seneca, Dialogue "To Marcia on Consolation", in Moral Essays, 6.20.3, trans. John W. Basore, The Loeb Classical Library (Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1946) 2:69

10. "The ... oldest depiction of a crucifixion ... was uncovered by archaeologists more than a century ago on the Palatine Hill in Rome. It is a second-century graffiti scratched into a wall that was part of the imperial palace complex. It includes a caption - not by a Christian, but by someone taunting and deriding Christians and the crucifixions they underwent. It shows crude stick-figures of a boy reverencing his "God," who has the head of a jackass and is upon a cross with arms spread wide and with hands nailed to the crossbeam. Here we have a Roman sketch of a Roman crucifixion, and it is in the traditional cross shape" (Clayton F. Bower, Jr: Cross or Torture Stake?). Some second-century writers took it for granted that a crucified person would have his arms stretched out, not connected to a single stake: Lucian speaks of Prometheus as crucified "above the ravine with his hands outstretched" and explains that the letter "T" (the Greek letter tau) was looked upon as an unlucky letter or sign (similar to the way the number thirteen is looked upon today as an unlucky number) saying that the letter got its "evil significance" because of the "evil instrument" which had that shape, an instrument which tyrants hung men on (ibidem).

11. Epistle of Barnabas, Chapter 9. The document no doubt belongs to the end of the first or beginning of the second century.[1]

12. "The very form of the cross, too, has five extremities, two in length, two in breadth, and one in the middle, on which [last] the person rests who is fixed by the nails" (Irenaeus (c. 130–202), Adversus Haereses, II, xxiv, 4).


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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 12:31:14 PM »
Laminin is a protein in our body that literally holds our skin, organs, and everything else in our body in place.  Guess what shape laminin is in.



God holds us together with laminin and saved us with the cross.

Laminin:
http://www.bdbiosciences.com/discovery_labware/products/display_product.php?keyID=238

http://www.jcb.org/cgi/content/full/164/7/959?ck=nck

http://bio.takara.co.jp/bio_en/images/enM018a.gif

An image of the core of the Whirlpool galaxy M51 (NGC 5149) taken by the Hubble Space Telescope. It shows an immense ring of dust and gas that is thought to surround and hide a giant black hole in the center of the galaxy.



http://www.scienceclarified.com/Bi-Ca/Black-Hole.html

1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Galatians 6:14
May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

Colossians 1:20
and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Very cool!!!!  Thanks, Loco.   ;D

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 12:45:31 PM »
Very cool!!!!  Thanks, Loco.   ;D

You are welcome, Colossus_500!   ;D

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2007, 02:31:05 PM »
Well with the thousands of different proteins and billions of galaxies, there's bound to be some resembling a cross.

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 05:44:54 AM »
Well with the thousands of different proteins and billions of galaxies, there's bound to be some resembling a cross.

That may be true, but it is still interesting that laminin happens to be the one protein that

1. Holds us together, our skin, organs, and everything else in our body

2. Is shaped like a cross

3. Each of its molecules is a heterotrimer assembled from four of beta-chains: LAMB1, LAMB2, LAMB3, LAMB4


Colossians 1:20
and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

John 1:29
"The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!"

Very interesting stuff, that's all.   ;D


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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2007, 11:15:15 AM »
Cool.

Just to clarify: the fact that laminin holds us together, is shaped like a cross and its beta chains have LAMB in their name does not prove that Christianity is the one true religion, neither does the photo of the black hole that looks like a crucifix. 

I posted this only because I find it very interesting.  That's all.    ;D

jesus, pardon the pun. i thought you jumped off the irrational bridge.

it proves nothing but is interesting like you noted.

you know, there are tarts who would see this shit and take it as evidence of god or jesus.

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Re: The Cross - Interesting
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2007, 11:19:38 AM »
jesus, pardon the pun. i thought you jumped off the irrational bridge.

it proves nothing but is interesting like you noted.

you know, there are tarts who would see this shit and take it as evidence of god or jesus.


Yeah, I would not do that.  That would be ridiculous.    :)