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Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« on: May 16, 2007, 06:41:13 AM »
Long-time Muscle Beach promoter Bill Howard has been banned from this season's contests. His ouster has roiled the bodybuilding community.
May 15, 2007


Bill Howard says he's no 98-pound weakling sitting on the beach, waiting for a he-man to kick sand in his face.

Joe Wheatley says he's no biceps-bulging bully trying to muscle in on someone else's place in the sun.

That's the short version of the ego flexing taking place between a veteran weightlifting champion and a younger promoter as this year's bodybuilding season approaches at Venice's Muscle Beach.

After more than four decades of staging summertime muscleman contests at the famed tourist attraction, the 73-year-old Howard has been banned from the weightlifting platform that stands beneath Muscle Beach's symbolic oversized concrete barbells.

Los Angeles parks officials advised Howard that the city "has decided to change direction with regard to future bodybuilding events" at the Venice Beach boardwalk.

"You will no longer be asked to narrate the History of Muscle Beach at the show. The Bill Howard Award will no longer be given at the shows. The Medallion Ceremony will be completed by a representative from Recreation and Parks" and not by Howard, parks authorities advised him in writing in mid-March.

Howard was told he could attend the show "as a member of the public" but would no longer be allowed backstage or in participants' or VIP areas.

His sudden ouster has roiled Muscle Beach, where Howard began pumping iron in the 1950s. He is credited with helping revive the beachside bodybuilding scene after lifters were kicked off Santa Monica's original Muscle Beach.

"I've given my entire life to Muscle Beach Venice, and they're kicking me out the door," said Howard, a Costa Mesa resident who still works as a personal trainer. He vows he is not about to go down without a fight.

"I'm in competition shape," he said. "I'm going to be 74 and I'm damned proud of how I look. I live the Muscle Beach philosophy. The sanctions against me are vindictiveness."

Starting in 1963, Howard — without pay — organized and emceed shows at Muscle Beach each Memorial Day, Fourth of July and Labor Day.

He saw the beach through its toughest time in the early 1980s, as facilities crumbled and interest faded. Howard recalled that one year, there wasn't any money for trophies, so he asked Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbo to go home and "get some of their own trophies to donate. They did, and we had a show."

He led a campaign to get Los Angeles officials to designate the weightlifting area "Muscle Beach Venice" and in 1991 helped secure $500,000 in funding to construct a training area and stage.

Howard stepped aside as the shows' promoter and master of ceremonies in 2003 while recovering from throat cancer. That's when Wheatley, 20 years his junior, took over promotional duties.

Since then, Wheatley's backers say, he has expanded the shows' scope, drawing more sponsors and participants. Wheatley created an award in Howard's name to give to the shows' top male and female competitors and oversaw Howard's induction into the Muscle Beach Hall of Fame in 2005.

Wheatley, 52, of Glendale, said that as Venice's Muscle Beach grew, Howard simply wouldn't change with the times.

"I've said over and over that without Bill Howard, we wouldn't be here today," Wheatley said. "But it comes a time for everyone to step aside. The program is bigger than Bill. It's evolved."

But Wheatley also blamed "ego and narcissism" on Howard's part. "We couldn't get the microphone out of his hands," he said. "The last thing he said to the audience was, 'I'm not in this for the money; I'm in this for the sport.' That was a personal attack on me. I do this for a living. Joe Wheatley Productions. I do bring in money."

City officials have sided with Wheatley.

Lydia Ritzman, the city's principal recreation supervisor, who ordered Howard's removal, said there was a personality clash between Howard and Wheatley.

"It got to the point [where] Bill would come in at the 11th hour and undo things Joe had done. These events don't need that kind of drama," Ritzman said.

"Joe asked for some cooperation from Bill. For some reason Bill couldn't do that."

Devotees of Muscle Beach and bodybuilding said they are caught in the middle.

"Without his enthusiasm, it would have died out. Bill did an excellent job," said Gene Mozee, a Culver City powerlifter who has written about the sport and edited bodybuilding magazines.

But Mozee also had praise for Wheatley. "He's really revved up the participation and enthusiasm. True, Joe makes a living at this. But he pays the city a fee and pays his own people to do work."

Schwarzenegger, who in his early days pumped iron in Venice, issued a statement in 2004 from the governor's office praising Howard for his dedication to the bodybuilding community as he was battling cancer. "There is no obstacle you can't overcome," the governor wrote. On Monday, his spokesman said Schwarzenegger was busy in meetings and unavailable to comment on Howard's ouster.

Meanwhile, the Muscle Beach battle is heating up.

Wheatley said Howard threatened to picket the approaching Memorial Day holiday show. The Muscle Beach International Classic is scheduled for May 27-28. Officials want to eventually build a Wall of Fame saluting the greats of Muscle Beach, with Howard likely to be among the first honorees.

But "if he causes a big ruckus on May 28, then that plaque is going to go," Wheatley warned. "He should tread very lightly."

As for Howard, he says he has spent a lifetime of heavy lifting for a sport that has had more than its share of ups and downs. In his view, only dumbbells would bar him now from Muscle Beach.

"It's like telling Babe Ruth he can't go to Yankee Stadium."

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Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 01:45:37 PM »
Bill Howard, a longtime promoter at Venice's Muscle Beach, has been banned from this season's contests. His ouster has roiled the bodybuilding community.

Bill Howard says he's no 98-pound weakling sitting on the beach, waiting for a he-man to kick sand in his face.

Joe Wheatley says he's no biceps-bulging bully trying to muscle in on someone else's place in the sun.

That's the short version of the ego flexing taking place between a veteran weightlifting champion and a younger promoter as this year's bodybuilding season approaches at Venice's Muscle Beach.

After more than four decades of staging summertime muscleman contests at the famed tourist attraction, the 73-year-old Howard has been banned from the weightlifting platform that stands beneath Muscle Beach's symbolic oversized concrete barbells.

Los Angeles parks officials advised Howard that the city "has decided to change direction with regard to future bodybuilding events" at the Venice Beach boardwalk.

"You will no longer be asked to narrate the History of Muscle Beach at the show. The Bill Howard Award will no longer be given at the shows. The Medallion Ceremony will be completed by a representative from Recreation and Parks" and not by Howard, parks authorities advised him in writing in mid-March.

Howard was told he could attend the show "as a member of the public" but would no longer be allowed backstage or in participants' or VIP areas.

His sudden ouster has roiled Muscle Beach, where Howard began pumping iron in the 1950s. He is credited with helping revive the beachside bodybuilding scene after lifters were kicked off Santa Monica's original Muscle Beach.

"I've given my entire life to Muscle Beach Venice, and they're kicking me out the door," said Howard, a Costa Mesa resident who still works as a personal trainer. He vows he is not about to go down without a fight.

"I'm in competition shape," he said. "I'm going to be 74 and I'm damned proud of how I look. I live the Muscle Beach philosophy. The sanctions against me are vindictiveness."

Starting in 1963, Howard — without pay — organized and emceed shows at Muscle Beach each Memorial Day, Fourth of July and Labor Day.

He saw the beach through its toughest time in the early 1980s, as facilities crumbled and interest faded. Howard recalled that one year, there wasn't any money for trophies, so he asked Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbo to go home and "get some of their own trophies to donate. They did, and we had a show."

He led a campaign to get Los Angeles officials to designate the weightlifting area "Muscle Beach Venice" and in 1991 helped secure $500,000 in funding to construct a training area and stage.

Howard stepped aside as the shows' promoter and master of ceremonies in 2003 while recovering from throat cancer. That's when Wheatley, 20 years his junior, took over promotional duties.

Since then, Wheatley's backers say, he has expanded the shows' scope, drawing more sponsors and participants. Wheatley created an award in Howard's name to give to the shows' top male and female competitors and oversaw Howard's induction into the Muscle Beach Hall of Fame in 2005.

Wheatley, 52, of Glendale, said that as Venice's Muscle Beach grew, Howard simply wouldn't change with the times.

"I've said over and over that without Bill Howard, we wouldn't be here today," Wheatley said. "But it comes a time for everyone to step aside. The program is bigger than Bill. It's evolved."

But Wheatley also blamed "ego and narcissism" on Howard's part. "We couldn't get the microphone out of his hands," he said. "The last thing he said to the audience was, 'I'm not in this for the money; I'm in this for the sport.' That was a personal attack on me. I do this for a living. Joe Wheatley Productions. I do bring in money."

City officials have sided with Wheatley.

Lydia Ritzman, the city's principal recreation supervisor, who ordered Howard's removal, said there was a personality clash between Howard and Wheatley.

"It got to the point [where] Bill would come in at the 11th hour and undo things Joe had done. These events don't need that kind of drama," Ritzman said.

"Joe asked for some cooperation from Bill. For some reason Bill couldn't do that."

Devotees of Muscle Beach and bodybuilding said they are caught in the middle.

"Without his enthusiasm, it would have died out. Bill did an excellent job," said Gene Mozee, a Culver City powerlifter who has written about the sport and edited bodybuilding magazines.

But Mozee also had praise for Wheatley. "He's really revved up the participation and enthusiasm. True, Joe makes a living at this. But he pays the city a fee and pays his own people to do work."

Schwarzenegger, who in his early days pumped iron in Venice, issued a statement in 2004 from the governor's office praising Howard for his dedication to the bodybuilding community as he was battling cancer. "There is no obstacle you can't overcome," the governor wrote. On Monday, his spokesman said Schwarzenegger was busy in meetings and unavailable to comment on Howard's ouster.

Meanwhile, the Muscle Beach battle is heating up.

Wheatley said Howard threatened to picket the approaching Memorial Day holiday show. The Muscle Beach International Classic is scheduled for May 27-28. Officials want to eventually build a Wall of Fame saluting the greats of Muscle Beach, with Howard likely to be among the first honorees.

But "if he causes a big ruckus on May 28, then that plaque is going to go," Wheatley warned. "He should tread very lightly."

As for Howard, he says he has spent a lifetime of heavy lifting for a sport that has had more than its share of ups and downs. In his view, only dumbbells would bar him now from Muscle Beach.

"It's like telling Babe Ruth he can't go to Yankee Stadium."



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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 02:30:56 PM »
How would you feel if Babe told them how to run the stadium after he retired?

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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 04:30:36 PM »
I trained at the pit this morning, saw joe, he was on the phone, discussing the whole issue with someone, I was going to ask him what bill did, or who he pissed off, but I didnt have time..........maybe I ask him for the whole story tomorrow when I train.

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 05:11:26 PM »
Im OK with it.

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 07:07:54 PM »
Okay fellas, heres a story from a city rec person.........okay bill use to have the contract and rights to the venice beach contest, up until 2002.......then his contract expired.....Joe put in an application and got the rights to the contest starting 2003.......however, bill remained close to him and showed him how to run the contests.....well ffwd to 2007 bill is kinda upset that joe is making money off the event, and claims joe is turning the event into a swapmeet........so evidently there was a dispute between bill and joe, and joe told bill that he is not allowed to emcee the show this year or allowed at the vip and pump area.............then bill said he was going to put in an application to compete, and joe said he couldnt do that either........then the city sent a formal letter just on their part, because they are the people in charge.....its joes event and he does the contest, but the contest and the location are the rec centers ownership at the beach...the city.....LA rec and departments.....okay then the whole thing arose out of a conflict between the two.......I personally dont care, and I know joe, but I dont want to bother him about it.....so I will comment on that way after the event......bill howard plans to protest and picket at the contest................

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 07:40:38 PM »
My viewpoint .... I know both Joe and Bill. Bill left and should keep his hands off entirely.

I'm not aware of any "swapmeet" but there is a small table set-up offering some tool to shave the hair off your head and some sun block lotion.

Why would that be of any business concern to Bill's?

Joe has been doing a great job and should be able to work without interference now that the Founder has retired.

Bill did a great job but now he ought to sit back and not make waves.

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2007, 12:02:31 AM »
I think Chic should get involved and fuck it all up.  Or even better since this is Sean last year doing the Colorado show he can do this one.

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2007, 12:50:19 AM »
old retired guy tried to tell the new guy how to do his job.  new guy told old guy his help wasn't needed and that he didn't want him in the worker areas.  old guy is still welcome to attend - just not be in the way of events or narrate them.

not a big deal.  happens a lot.  retired guy who love it will try to tell young guys (whose income depends on it) how to do things.  while they mean well, it sometimes interferes with operations and wastes time, and sometimes isn't profitable anymore.  there are bigger problems in the world to focus on

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Re: Venice Beach - Famed weightlifter is banned! Bull!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2007, 11:51:13 AM »
Ya, 240. It happens daily down at the neighborhood police and fire stations. The old timers have nothing to do at home so they come by the firehouse for a free meal and eventually make recommendations based on how they did it in the "good old days".

But in most cases, they are given some respect by simply letting them talk. I only know of two cases where the old timer was asked not to come back. ANd even that was done respectfully.

It looks like Bill was treated right until he decided he wanted things done his own way once again.