Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?

[Milos_Sarcev]

It's not my fault that Pro's have little interest in what goes on...thats why we had no voice for YEARS. I organized 4 meetings before ANYTHING was changed or presented to the IFBB...the attendance was little to none. Plenty of notice was given, posting of the meeting and times, best time and location possible for as many to attend that wished to....

I passed athletes hanging out in the BAR area that didn't bother to walk a few feet to the meeting room despite knowing of it going on...AGAIN...this was before anything was done.

BTW...where were YOU, Milos? Don't recall you attending...you showed up ONCE and bitched the whole time.




You organized 4 meetings?
When and where exactly?
And how do you think that ALL THE PROS would be able to make it to that meeting?
Especially International athletes?
They should just jump on the plane, spend few thousand $ they don't have...just to attend the meeting?

Where was I?

Perfect example...IF EVEN I COULDN'T MAKE AND I WOULD ALWAYS WANT TO - maybe you should realize that MOST OF US SIMPLY CAN'T MAKE TO YOUR MEETINGS - so meeting cannot be used for ANY DECISION MAKINGS!

Some ideas MAYBE could be discussed - but DECISIONS could be made ONLY when MAJORITY OF ALL THE IFBB ATHLETES AGREE with it!



You admit that most pro's dont care...you are correct. They don't care and dont attend meetings to voice opinions, give input....so I make decisions as their REP.


Did you ever think that MAYBE athletes don't RESPECT YOU ENOUGH to care about your meetings etc...

I am sure that IF or WHEN you convince EACH AND EVERY ATHLETE that you indeed care enough YOURSELF to WAIT to get response from EACH AND EVERY athlete - than and only than we can START COOPERATING.

TO ME IT WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE:

I WOULD INSIST THAT EACH AND EVERY ATHLETE GIVES ME AN ANSWER...AND WHEN THEY DO - I WILL PUT IT TOGETHER AND PRESENT TO EVERYONE...ATHLETES, OFFICIALS, MEDIA...WORLD AND THE UNIVERSE...

Hey people! Here is what our athletes want! Every single one of them!

DONE!

What's next?





Dont have one to show you


Really?
What a surprise...

Well, you better start showing us WHO REQUESTED THE CHANGES besides YOU - BOZO...(Here is where Clown mentioning fits perfectly...for example!)



Still have yet to receive a single complaint (other than you Milos)...no emails, no PM's, no carrier pidgeons, smoke signals, or people coming up to me at the shows....I have received numerous emails thanking me for making a difference and initiating change and helping out many athletes in reguards to contracts, advices, and getting work for just as many...


Still you have yet to receive a single complaint?
Here is Melvin's and mine...and there will be many more...but let me ask you:
How many support letters and approvals have you received?

Can you post just a few - so we can all proudly read what our rep is getting as our gratitude for his fabulous job?
How many smoke signals, carrier pigeons as you have mentioned brought you praises?

None?

Oh well...it looks like YOU LOST...Result is 2:0...

Pack your bags Bob...it is time to go...

[Mat]

Bob - why not set up a telephone conference with all the IFBB athlete's instead? That way I'm sure more Pro's could participate. It's not that hard to set up a teleconference and I'm sure it will appeal to much more Pros.

[phyxsius]

This is more exciting than Mr. Olympia

[Weez]

TRADER - as you are betraying all the pros who have no clue what you are doing for them...
Doing something behind their backs and making decisions for someone WITHOUT INFORMING THEM FIRST is perfect example of a trader/you!

 

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  I can't stand it any more.................... ..Milos, It is traitor........T R A I T O R ........not trader. Please.

[gordiano]

This is more exciting than Mr. Olympia

I agree! 

[Vince B]

Yeah, Bob is a loose trader at that.

Seems to me Bob is innocent of all charges. It is always refreshing to be clued into what is in Bob's mind.

Bob said: "Get your facts straight....I never said I couldn't represent Lee as an individual. I said, I couldn't put through a proposal based on ONE guy wanting to compete in a rival federation, not one other pro was interested....ZERO...as evidenced by the overwhelming 2 that ended up going at a later time.

Just what did you expect me to do for him? The IFBB knew full well his stance, and Lee never asked for my help anyway.

Stay out of it, you are as clueless as they come."

Well, Bob, this is semantics and you know it. If you couldn't put through a proposal based on what ONE guy wanted then you are not representing that individual. If you didn't talk to all pros you wouldn't know if you were representing them or not. Come to think of it I would bet that you would be the last guy that the pros would discuss their feelings about the PDI with. Or am I clueless about that, too?

[the shadow]

wheres mr blabbermouth shawn ray hiding?

[Fulgorre]

If Bob is so great then why did Flex Wheeler demand he come on MD's No Bull radio and explain the judging criteria???  Specifically, the judging at the NY PRO 2007.  The judging is not consistent.  No one, even David Palumbo and Flex Wheeler, know what the judges are looking for?  Ahhhh, it is pointless to debate....IFBB is just like this picture

[AVBG]

Milos everybody knows that Bob organises two meetings a year to co-incide with the Arnold Classic & Mr Olympia..

EVEN You must admit that those two shows from a competitors and non competing bodybuilders are the most attended shows, that's realistically the best opportunities to hold these meetings.. what more do you want?

 Bob is not a hard man to find, if any pro had any complaints about anything they could be easily addressed and the raised as agenda items at the meeting(s)..

As I stated earlier, pro's only give a shit when it directly impacts on them, the rest of the time they are quite content to sit back and watch it happen... You're included in that assesment Milos

[Vince B]

"Dear Bob, I am a pro and thinking about doing a PDI show? Any advice?"

"Hey, Bob, I am a pro and the judging sucks! What are you doing about it?"

You see, no one will tell Bob that. Why? You work that out. He is the last guy you tell. Matter of fact, you have to be careful who you tell controversial things to because they have a habit of getting back to those you might not want to tell face to face. The IFBB will make sure you come 8th in your next contest. I still haven't figured out that 8th placing. Why was Bev given 8th in 1983? Then Sergio was given 8th in his last IFBB contest.

[PORKY]

IFBB is just like this picture

LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!.Is this a sign of the IFBB goin downhill?
All the feud here and in ASIA?Looks like not much hope going for IFBB thesedays.

[rocket]

Get your facts straight....I never said I couldn't represent Lee as an individual. I said, I couldn't put through a proposal based on ONE guy wanting to compete in a rival federation, not one other pro was interested....ZERO...as evidenced by the overwhelming 2 that ended up going at a later time.

Just what did you expect me to do for him? The IFBB knew full well his stance, and Lee never asked for my help anyway.

Stay out of it, you are as clueless as they come.

If no other pro's were interested then by sheer fact of no votes against Lee's motion you should have took the proposal through.  You know as well as everybody here does that if Lee's proposal had have gone through than there would have been IFBB pro's appearing at PDI shows now - ie benefitting from the proposal.  Thats the company man in you making decisions.  You're not impartial. 

[marcos chacon]

one more vote

[Bigger Business]

i vote for "who gives a fuck"

[omg]

why does the iffb conduct its business on these gossip boards? 

[the shadow]

why does the iffb conduct its business on these gossip boards? 

hahahah right.very soon we are gonna see jim manion and the weiders post here and discuss about their 'important' decisions

[fang]

why does the iffb conduct its business on these gossip boards?  Huh Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

post of the week

[MAXX]

Why are you sticking you fat butt in Vince? Do you think you're a part of the bb-scene or something. Haha.

haha. Vince is a pro to he won Mr. Canada 1783

[Hedgehog]

Ouch!

Bob, I admired your brief, concise response and position. 

Then you go and start namecalling a collection of anonymous pixels.

 

Moral panicking again, 240 or Bust?

Who are you to be giving lectures on board behavior?

You after all have posted lots of insulting .gif's and messages to Cicherillo and others over the years.

Like you would say, monster double standard.

-Hedge

[jr]

i vote for "who gives a fuck"

I second this motion.

Motion passed.

Meeting adjourned.

[Moen]

As the smart observer I am I will solve this situation right here:

a) there is clearly no need for a 'representative', everyone would be better off taking care of his own business since you guys really seem to come along like nazi's and jews

b) after the position of 'rep' is dropped, it would be wise not to conduct business through an internet gossip board (lol)

[Stark]

hahah this is awesome... btw, where's shawn? where is he?

[Stavios]

You can call me names all you want...If you think it makes a better argument, or makes you appear more intelligent.

LMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Monster pot calling the kettle back 

[disco_stu]

I have always said that if someone wants to become the IFBB athletes rep, then declare that they want to be, and start collecting the votes. It is easy to talk, but being in that position is a tough position. So far, no IFBB pro men's bodybuilder has wanted to challenge Bob for the positions.  But Bob so far has been the one to take responsibility for it, and has done a good job.

Still, Melvin is quite interesting - hmm.. have any inspirations for a position.  See you at the seminar!

Bob's done a good job.?!..lol.. like when he used to hang here with KK and call every one buck toothed jackasses and threaten them with violence?

then there's the professional ethics, and the junior school grammar, and the sub par intelligence, and the blind ability to not question anything about anything.

great job. excellent push for better conditions, better public perception, move towards more of a community accepted pursuit and so on.

i actually like shawn...well, more than Bob that's for sure. But i dont think shawn has the cerebral genes either to do it well. The ones that could do it well wont...wonder why?

it shouldnt have to be a BB either. Get a lawyer to do it- someone professional. Someone who can talk the talk and get results as it seems to me the only real issues for BB's is $..fair enough too.

[backday]

Bob's done a good job.?!..lol.. like when he used to hang here with KK and call every one buck toothed jackasses and threaten them with violence?

then there's the professional ethics, and the junior school grammar, and the sub par intelligence, and the blind ability to not question anything about anything.

great job. excellent push for better conditions, better public perception, move towards more of a community accepted pursuit and so on.

i actually like shawn...well, more than Bob that's for sure. But i dont think shawn has the cerebral genes either to do it well. The ones that could do it well wont...wonder why?

it shouldnt have to be a BB either. Get a lawyer to do it- someone professional. Someone who can talk the talk and get results as it seems to me the only real issues for BB's is $..fair enough too.

That would be great, if someone could/wanted to pay this lawyer, that is.