Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?

[Chick]

This has got to be the funniest thing I have ever seen, how on earth does a group of people who take illegal drugs get someone to insure them? non of the ifbb pros idiots actually think the insurance is going to pay out on anything health wise do they? these companies dont payout
to legitimate claims....let alone someone who is actually cheating them LOL

I must say.....great work if you pulled it off, the company is either AMI/Weider owned or lining thier pockets with your money knowing thier not going to payout on anything.

People get insurance under all kinds of circumstances...obese, smokers, drinkers,elderly, etc. This isn't some rinky dink co.....it's one of the 4 largest Health Ins. companies in the U.S.

It's no different than anyone else...

[onlyme]

Melvin may or may not have health Ins. through our group program...I dont know. Either way...is it a bad thing to have for the pro's? No one was ever able to get a program together...I did...and you give me shit for it??

I havent been doing this for 3-4 years...it's been less than 2.

Hey if you truly got a medical plan for the IFBB Pros that is real like Blue Cross or Kaiser or someone like that then I give you props man.  I just can't see that.    I remember people asking you and you never did give who the provider was.  But like I said if you did then that is great.  And 2 years is still too long.  Get out now when you can.  You don't need this aggravation.  Plus I would much rather rag on Manion who I truly dislike.  I don't ragging on you but I gotta do it.

[Chick]

Hey if you truly got a medical plan for the IFBB Pros that is real like Blue Cross or Kaiser or someone like that then I give you props man.  I just can't see that.    I remember people asking you and you never did give who the provider was.  But like I said if you did then that is great.  And 2 years is still too long.  Get out now when you can.  You don't need this aggravation.  Plus I would much rather rag on Manion who I truly dislike.  I don't ragging on you but I gotta do it.

Of course it's real...come on Keith...you know I don't make shit up.

The only aggravation I've ever gotten...is from Milos. No one else is complaining about the changes, as all of the changes benefit the athletes...

[ja351]

People get insurance under all kinds of circumstances...obese, smokers, drinkers,elderly, etc. This isn't some rinky dink co.....it's one of the 4 largest Health Ins. companies in the U.S.

It's no different than anyone else...

Not trying to be smart here, but Bob, none of what you have stated are illegal (ie.obese, smokers, drinkers,elderly).
MOST doctors mentality contribute anything and everything to steroid use, I cant see any payouts...as I said well done if it works.

[Chick]

Not trying to be smart here, but Bob, none of what you have stated are illegal (ie.obese, smokers, drinkers,elderly).
MOST doctors mentality contribute anything and everything to steroid use, I cant see any payouts...as I said well done if it works.

True...but they don't test you for AAS. You fill out the info...take a physical, and you're good to go. The biggest obstacle was the bodyweight, as according to the charts...someone like me is technically obese!

They pay out...as they should.

[chaos]

True...but they don't test you for AAS. You fill out the info...take a physical, and you're good to go. The biggest obstacle was the bodyweight, as according to the charts...someone like me is technically obese! They pay out...as they should.

HAHAHAHA what's up FATSO!!

[bigdumbbell]

Bob. I hope you treat your parents and other older people such as Joe and Ben better than you are treating me. Using age as a putdown is really lame. I guess you have run out of rational arguments so are trying to embarrass me. I have nothing to lose in these debates. I am trying to improve bodybuilding and am contributing in many ways, one of which is making posts on the net.

Listen to Keith, he is giving you good advice. You don't need the IFBB rep position. Let the pro athletes elect someone else. Surely you can read between the lines and see what you are achieving here? I guess not. Too bad.

lighten up on bobchic being the IFBB rep is alot like being a cat herder and it can't be easy.  then you have these people abusing their bodily organs for showing who's got the biggest and the best body parts.  we wont go into the relationship the rep must have with the business owners.  i'd like to know what insurance company or provider they are using and do they have the PPO or what kind of plans do they have.  i'm sure he didnt mean to call you names  that would be unprofessional.  oh and onlyme, that would be great if Texasblubber...one of the richest men in bodybuilding would underwrite some of the bodybuilders expenses...surely it's a business deductible.

[Vince B]

Maybe Milos meant trader and not traitor when referring to Bob? Seems more fitting somehow.

[huge285]

After reading this thread, I realized 2 things:

(1) Most Pro bodybuilders are lazy.  They complain about Bob, but they have no desire to do anything about it.  I still haven't seen one other pro come forward and say they want to be the athlete's rep.  After all of this complaining, I should hope to see MILOS challenging Bob at the next election.  The truth is BOB is the best athletes rep out there because there is no one else.  Whatever he's accomplished it better than what anyone else has-- which is NOTHING!

(2) Silvio has an exclusive contract with AMI/WEIDER that forbids him to shoot with anyone else except them.  He gets paid well to adhere to this contract.  He willingly signed this contract; therefore, if he can't follow the rules, he should be subject to penalties.  No one forced him to sign the contract, and I'm certain tha MILOS didn't put a gun to his head to make him take the unauthorized photos.  I have no sympathy for ignorance.  

[Karl Kox]

After reading this thread, I realized 2 things:

(1) Most Pro bodybuilders are lazy.  They complain about Bob, but they have no desire to do anything about it.  I still haven't seen one other pro come forward and say they want to be the athlete's rep.  After all of this complaining, I should hope to see MILOS challenging Bob at the next election.  The truth is BOB is the best athletes rep out there because there is no one else.  Whatever he's accomplished it better than what anyone else has-- which is NOTHING!

(2) Silvio has an exclusive contract with AMI/WEIDER that forbids him to shoot with anyone else except them.  He gets paid well to adhere to this contract.  He willingly signed this contract; therefore, if he can't follow the rules, he should be subject to penalties.  No one forced him to sign the contract, and I'm certain tha MILOS didn't put a gun to his head to make him take the unauthorized photos.  I have no sympathy for ignorance.  

Good post Dave

[chaos]

After reading this thread, I realized 2 things:

(1) Most Pro bodybuilders are lazy.  They complain about Bob, but they have no desire to do anything about it.  I still haven't seen one other pro come forward and say they want to be the athlete's rep.  After all of this complaining, I should hope to see MILOS challenging Bob at the next election.  The truth is BOB is the best athletes rep out there because there is no one else.  Whatever he's accomplished it better than what anyone else has-- which is NOTHING!

(2) Silvio has an exclusive contract with AMI/WEIDER that forbids him to shoot with anyone else except them.  He gets paid well to adhere to this contract.  He willingly signed this contract; therefore, if he can't follow the rules, he should be subject to penalties.  No one forced him to sign the contract, and I'm certain tha MILOS didn't put a gun to his head to make him take the unauthorized photos.  I have no sympathy for ignorance.  

well aren't we all loddy doddy  

who said it was a "photo shoot?" does this mean NOONE can take any pics of Silvio unless they are AMI/Weider? What about the fans, bozo, do it for the fans!!!!!!!!!!




fuckers

[Luinitari]

After reading this thread, I realized 2 things:

(1) Most Pro bodybuilders are lazy.  They complain about Bob, but they have no desire to do anything about it.  I still haven't seen one other pro come forward and say they want to be the athlete's rep.  After all of this complaining, I should hope to see MILOS challenging Bob at the next election.  The truth is BOB is the best athletes rep out there because there is no one else.  Whatever he's accomplished it better than what anyone else has-- which is NOTHING!

(2) Silvio has an exclusive contract with AMI/WEIDER that forbids him to shoot with anyone else except them.  He gets paid well to adhere to this contract.  He willingly signed this contract; therefore, if he can't follow the rules, he should be subject to penalties.  No one forced him to sign the contract, and I'm certain tha MILOS didn't put a gun to his head to make him take the unauthorized photos.  I have no sympathy for ignorance. 

dammit if palumbo isn't pissing excellence tonight!  well said-

[Vince B]

I more I think about it the more pro bodybuilding resembles professional wrestling. The fans boo but unpopular guys win just the same. It is as if some script were being followed and referees and judges are just props.

[Karl Kox]

My old man always says It takes three people to have a good wrestling match. The two wrestlers and a good referee

[Anabolic Outlaw]

IFBB athletes should respected and supprted not bullied.
 
Marvelous

It is so obvious that what Melvin said at the beginning of this thread is 100% how he felt.  Anyone can see that he was threaten by someone to change his tune or else.  That is the method the IFBB has been using for years.

I guarantee you would get an eye opener when you know the REAL story.

Bob Cicherillo

IFBB Athletes Representative

The truth shall set you free - but can you handle the truth, the real truth, and not be biased.

Here is a short video for you: www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEOnRRUNrr0

[G o a t b o y]

(2) Silvio has an exclusive contract with AMI/WEIDER that forbids him to shoot with anyone else except them.  He gets paid well to adhere to this contract.  He willingly signed this contract; therefore, if he can't follow the rules, he should be subject to penalties.  No one forced him to sign the contract, and I'm certain tha MILOS didn't put a gun to his head to make him take the unauthorized photos.  I have no sympathy for ignorance.  

Apply a little common sense here.  To most normal people, this contract means he can't shoot with MD or Musclemag or Ironman...  you know, AMI's competitors?  I certainly wouldn't take it to mean he has to forbid a friend from taking a couple on non-commercial snaps with his personal camera. 

The AMI apologists can parse the "letter of the contract" all day long, when everyone knows it was never meant to apply to this, and certainly hasn't meant this in the past or with other athletes.  This is all about applying the "rules" differently to settle personal scores.

[Chick]

Apply a little common sense here.  To most normal people, this contract means he can't shoot with MD or Musclemag or Ironman...  you know, AMI's competitors?  I certainly wouldn't take it to mean he has to forbid a friend from taking a couple on non-commercial snaps with his personal camera. 

The AMI apologists can parse the "letter of the contract" all day long, when everyone knows it was never meant to apply to this, and certainly hasn't meant this in the past or with other athletes.  This is all about applying the "rules" differently to settle personal scores.

No it's not...It's about upholding a contractual obligation.

Milos was warned ONCE, prior to this....Taking pictures for the sole, expressed purpose of putting them on his (Milos') website is indeed a breach of contract...especially when some of these pics were taken over the shoulder of Chris Lund, who's JOB it is to take pics for Flex magazine...If the same shots are seen online, what the hell good is the magazine, or the contract for that matter?

Milos knew this...and STILL decided to take pics...tell Silvio they were for himself and that he would not post them...and preceeded to post them anyway, knowingly putting Silvios contract at risk.

[dorkeroo]

You contribute nothing to the argument except useless comments that have no merit, and no facts behind them. You assume everything and talk as if you have the pulse of the people...whn in reality, you have the pulse of BB 30 years ago at best...

Just how are YOU helping to improve pro BB?

Why is it your posts where you insult people and treat them like garbage are left up and others like one I had in this thread saying you are a dick on the messageboards is deleted? You don't think you are a dick on here? Or you didn't delete it?

Vince may irritate you sometimes, but, at the very least he can maintain a semblance of professionalism. You stoop to insults and middle school grammar any time you feel you are threatened on here and it is getting old.

But I guess now comes your obligatory insult/reference to sub-level intellect or maybe even a comment about how much money you make or your life outside messageboards.

[G o a t b o y]

No it's not...It's about upholding a contractual obligation.

Milos was warned ONCE, prior to this....Taking pictures for the sole, expressed purpose of putting them on his (Milos') website is indeed a breach of contract...especially when some of these pics were taken over the shoulder of Chris Lund, who's JOB it is to take pics for Flex magazine...If the same shots are seen online, what the hell good is the magazine, or the contract for that matter?

Milos knew this...and STILL decided to take pics...tell Silvio they were for himself and that he would not post them...and preceeded to post them anyway, knowingly putting Silvios contract at risk.

Well, Bob, thanks to your employer frickin' video of the event went out worldwide live.  So what the hell good is the magazine?  Not much good at all.  If AMI is concerned that they are being made obselete, I think they have bigger problems than Milos' fan site. 

[G o a t b o y]

No it's not...It's about upholding a contractual obligation.

Have you ever answered Garraeth's question about all the other AMI-contracted athletes who have shit out all over the web, to whom "boo" has not been said?

[Chick]

Well, Bob, thanks to your employer frickin' video of the event went out worldwide live.  So what the hell good is the magazine?  Not much good at all.  If AMI is concerned that they are being made obselete, I think they should have bigger problems than Milos' fan site. 

That's not really the point...point is, the company paying the athlete is paying for EXCLUSIVITY..just like Blechman does, Musclemag, supplement companies, etc...

If Milos had Silvios best interest in mind...this never takes place.

Milos doesn't like to be told what to do and has a problem with authority (if you haven't seen that by now...) He did this purpously to spite Robin Chang/ AMI...It was a selfish thing to do.

[Chick]

Have you ever answered Garraeth's question about all the other AMI-contracted athletes who have shit out all over the web, to whom "boo" has not been said?

Anyone under contract has the same rules to follow...pictures taken BEFORE they signed a contract aren't a concern. If a contracted athlete knowingly does a photo shoot, interview without consent of AMI...then they would be given the same response...and it has happened as I know personally, warnings have been issued to a handful of athletes...most know better.

[Chick]

That, my friend, is bullshit and you know it.

Really??

Then offer one good reason why Milos would take it, post it DESPITE being warned that it would put Silvio at risk?

[G o a t b o y]

Milos doesn't like to be told what to do and has a problem with authority (if you haven't seen that by now...) He did this purpously to spite Robin Chang/ AMI...It was a selfish thing to do.

So this is really all about Milos, and the "powers that be" settling a score.  (which has been our point from the beginning)

Poor Silvio was used as a human ping-pong ball because Milos was on the "bad" list.

Of course, had he been working with a trainer AMI likes, they'd have no problem whastoever with a few snaps on a non-commercial website, which is a double standard and total bullshit.

[MattT]

Where is Shawn Ray in all of this? how come he hasn't posted anything or stood up for himself in this thread? Is he afraid