Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?

[Denny Crane]

Milos, Your fifteen minutes are almost up. Mine has lasted a lifetime.

Luke Wood you and Shawn do have something in common; women with a little something extra downstairs.

This matter is clear. As you get older your priorities change. You begin to realize what really matters. Money!

Denny Crane.

[New Hank Wood]

All they would have to do is set up a page that pros can click on to see proposed rule changes. Only pros will be able to access this page by typing in their IFBB member number and a password. Then they could read any proposals and click FOR or AGAINST and SEND. The results will be tallied as they are done and there could be a deadline as to when voting ends. MD does this kind of thing all the time for fun. The IFBB just needs to make sure security is in place by having limited access and passwords, and making sure each person can only vote once per proposal.
To get the word out about proposed changes the pros should get automatic e-mails to their personal e-mail addresses everytime there is a proposed rule change.





just a suggestion

I  suggest that you email your suggestion to the IFBB  as soon as possible. It is a good idea that needs further consideration by the industry.

Get on to it, otherwise the Milos' and Chick's of this world will claim it as their own idea!  

Start emailing now!

[befit124]

They can take credit, I don't care. They will get further with it than I would.

[New Hank Wood]

They can take credit, I don't care. They will get further with it than I would.

No, i dont agree!  You have the same, if not a better chance of making this proposal a reality!

Milos is despised within the inner circle of the IFBB. And Bob, well he is just Bob; the companies 'yes man'!

I think you should run with it.  -Aren't you sick and tired of these broken down EX-Pros stealing everyone elses ideas?  I know  i am.

[befit124]

Well if they want changes for the better like they say then they will take my idea and run with it. If they don't maybe one of the other pros will read it and do something with it. Possibly Luke or Melvin will use it.

[Vince B]

Just got back from my gym where I trained arms and took a few photos.

[New Hank Wood]

Well if they want changes for the better like they say then they will take my idea and run with it. If they don't maybe one of the other pros will read it and do something with it. Possibly Luke or Melvin will use it.

You reckon?  Luke has a brain that is the size of pea, and Melvin is semi-illiterate.  No hope in hell for those two building a case for the IFBB!

It's your call though.  

A short email of one or two sentences is all that is needed.

[New Hank Wood]

Just got back from my gym where I trained arms and took a few photos.

What is going on inside your head Vince?  This constant need for validation. 

What, do you want all the adolescents who post here to tell you that you look good for an old bastard?  Is that it?

Get over it!  You cant be that insecure. 

I think you need to re-connect with your family or something.  There is obviously a massive void in your life!

[The Ugly]

That lavender really brings out the creepy in your eyes.

[Vince B]

Hey, Hank, get off the internet and go out. It is Saturday night and you could be having fun. Lots of lonely people out there.  Your analyses are not that accurate so quit before you make a complete fool of yourself.

[New Hank Wood]

That lavender really brings out the creepy in your eyes.

Good post.

Vince, you look very menacing, scary in fact!  

That gaze of yours sends cold shivers through me.  Your look is disturbing!

You remind me of this weird old man who lived at the bottom of my street when i was a child. He frightened all the children in the neighbourhood.

Vince, you are the personification of all things evil.

[befit124]

Ok Hank,  I sent my suggestion to the IFBB. You think I'll get a reply from them

[New Hank Wood]

Ok Hank,  I sent my suggestion to the IFBB. You think I'll get a reply from them

If you really did send your suggestion through, i congratulate you.  It is a good proposal and one that i think could work.

You may get a response but dont hold your breath.  The organisation is known for its ineffiencies and communication break-downs!


 Again, well done! We need to  make the IFBB more accountable.

[befit124]

I sent it. The first time it was returned but I resent it and it went through, so I guess we'll see what happens next.

[New Hank Wood]

I sent it. The first time it was returned but I resent it and it went through, so I guess we'll see what happens next.

Good stuff.  Now it is just a waiting game!

The IFBB traditionally act very slowly on these types of issues.  It will be interesting to see how things evolve.

[befit124]

Regardless of what they do I'll still be a fan. I don't post much but I do train daily and attend shows. You think if they adopt my suggestions they'll send me free VIP tickets to the Olympia in apppreciation.

JUST KIDDING

[sgt. d]

Just got back from my gym where I trained arms and took a few photos.

Why are you grabbing your chest that way

[CQ]

Just got back from my gym where I trained arms and took a few photos.

Why is this posted in the middle of a thread about the IFBB athletes rep

[davidpaul]

Just got back from my gym where I trained arms and took a few photos.

Why are you clutching your left breast, did you forget your bra Vincent?

[Chick]

Again, according to who?
You...Bob THE FRAUD?

Silvio had more confidence in my negotiating skills than his - and that's why he wanted me to represent him...
I doubled the offered supplement contract - and got him more money than he even expected...

He HAD more confidence...HAD. It became abundantly clear that you didn't know what you were doing and causing more problems for him. That was HIS choice to distance himself and make sure it was crystal clear that he spoke for himself and repreented himself...not you.


Yes, for that I got zilch as he still didn't decide what he feels was fair to pay me...but as it stands - I do not want his money...he can hire you or Shawn...After all you both know how to deal with authorities...

You keep mentioning that I claim I was Silvio's manager like I wasn't?
Just ask Muscletech or your best friend Robin - who did they deal with AND WHY - regarding Silvio's contracts...

Cant comment on Muscletech....dont know the details. I've talked to Robin personally..no, you were never his manager...from Robin AND Silvio.

 Besides, you still didn't answer my question:
If I wasn't Silvio's manager HOW EXACTLY DID HE BREACH HIS CONTRACT?

And it's been answered at least TWICE...now it becomes clear why you got Silvio in this mess...YOU CANT READ. He was in breach because as the athlete under contract, HE would be held accountable...you were told not to post pics, did anyway..putting him in breach.....not too tough to understand...for anyone else.


And ANOTHER QUESTION THAT YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING:
Would the same photo appearing on Silvio's site be BREACH OF CONTRACT?

Assuming it doesn't conflict with his contract...no. Permission would have to be given to him, depending on the strictness of his contract....or they could be posted on Flexonline.com...which YOU could have done also,Obviously

MANY CONTRACTED IFBB PROS ARE POSTING THEIR PHOTOS ON THEIR SITES - WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS FROM THEIR EXCLUSIVE SPONSORS...

Depends on their contract, and their sponsors...many supplement companies could care less....publication contracts are much more strict as taking pics and interviews is WHAT THEY DO, AND WHT THEY'RE PAYING FOR.So, IT IS JUST FORMALITY that I would hope everyone would understand...

Only since ROBIN came on board this became the problem...all of a sudden...

Whatever...he's in chanrge, and it's his job to enforce the contract.


As everyone is mentioning - MY SITE IS FULL OF PHOTOS OF NUMEROUS CONTRACTED ATHLETES PREPARING FOR THEIR SHOWS  IT WAS NEVER A PROBLEM - until now...

See above. Same answer applies.


Robin, you and Shawn simply want to show me as a trouble-maker...instead of WHAT I AM - IFBB PRO WHO CARED AND SUPPORTED IN MANY WAYS MORE PROS THAT EVERYONE COMBINED...and I will continue doing it - as IT IS MY PLEASURE TO GIVE A HELPING HAND...Real helping hand WHEN GUYS NEED HELP...not like you and Shawn...when "your helping hand" brings MORE HARM than anything else...

WOW...thats a different spin. It was your "helping hand" thats the sole reason this discussion is taking place. Your inability to follow direction almost cost Silvio a months pay..keep up the good work.

Robin, you and Shawn SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THIS...but go ahead - blame me...

Yeah...cause somehow it's MY fault that YOU cant read a contract, or do what was told when warned the first time, or absolutely HAD to post pictures...HAD TO....to put his contract at risk!


The president of the IFBB wants to beat the crap out of me?
Wow, the way he was smiling at me during our half hour conversation was "wanting to beat the crap out of me?"
Don't say...

Refer back to the Ironman debacle..you, yourself posted exerpts from the conversation you had on speakerphone...what were his comments again? How about from Steve W? Tuman?

Facing suspension?
I am facing it for the quite some time now...don't you think?

Now - I was warned that I might get 2 moths suspension...but I insisted to find out why?
For telling the truth?

I will continue telling the truth...and will see where this suspension leads us...

There is plenty of time until the Olympia to get unsuspended - and take your position...if I don't manage to take you out BEFORE THAN.

So...are you or are you not facing suspension?

Coming to my seminar?

It starts in about 9 hours...

You can actually learn something...but than again - why would you?

No...sorry. I have family to spend the day with. I do appreciate the invite though.You're probably right...here's a few thing I could learn:

How NOT to interperate a contract...
How to put my clients contact at risk...
How to be a manager without an actual contract stating that I am...
How to ignore a direct warning, putting my clients contract at risk...AGAIN.
How to make friends and influence people.

Do everyone a favor, and keep the subject manner to training and nutrition...the minute you start talking politics, etc....you will leave everyone pissed off and with a wasted day.

[musclecenter]

Why is this posted in the middle of a thread about the IFBB athletes rep

Ha..Ha...Because of Vince Basile is a candidate for the next IFBB athletes rep ??

[G o a t b o y]

Because of Vince Basile is a candidate for the next IFBB athletes rep

Vince Basile for athletes rep!!  He'd talk and talk and wouldn't shut up until he drove Weider, Manion, et al. to kill themselves.   

[Milos_Sarcev]

 

I wax on and wax off the Overall trophy bob gave me everyday.

[knny187]

One other thing.....


I would say on any given proposal thought up of....there should at least be 3-6 Pro's that agree on the suggestion before if it's made into a an item to be voted on.


This would cut down people accusing of 'one man' coming up with all the ideas being voted on & one person that makes up all the rules.

[Milos_Sarcev]

If you negotiated his contract you would be aware of the content and contractual obligations? You were happy for Silvio to sign the contract but immediately went out and posted photographs on your site which was in breach of that contract? If you considered the clause to be unfair or unreasonable, why did you have Silvio sign it?

If as you say, you did act as a manager for Silvio I would suggest that you either learn more about the legal function and requirements of a contract or at the very least advise them to have a lawyer look over it.

If you brokered the contract you would be the one to know if photographs appearing on Silvio's site breached it? Why ask anyone else not party to it's content?

I have LONG HISTORY with Weider/AMI group...since 1991!!!

My gym is official gym for FLEX magazine photoshoots for about 6 years...

Editor of the magazines is someone whom I consider a friend and I always had PERFECT RELATIONSHIP in true sense of that word.
He knows how passionate I can be about bodybuilding and WHAT I REALLY DO for the athletes...He, for change, has RIGHT opinion about me.

In the beginning - when Chris Lund started shooting in my gym - I couldn't help but take some shots at the same time...and WHEN HE TOLD ME TO STOP - IT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN...
I don't even get tempted and therefore don't even go on the gym floor...as I would be like the kid in the candy store and take not one but thousands of photos of top IFBB pros in contest shape...

One word from Peter Mc Gough - WOULD BE ENOUGH...

However, Peter NEVER responded to my Email IF what Robin is telling me - is INDEED A PROBLEM...

I have been taking photos for YEARS...AND IT WAS NEVER PROBLEM...EVER....until Silvio told me that he got the call from Robin...
As Robin didn't call me - I made sure to call him and asked him: "what's up?"...

After he expresses "exclusivity" issues...etc I reminded him that I am not the MD...or other competing publication...I am Milos Sarcev - possibly "longest" contracted Weider athlete - loyal to Weider and the IFBB for 15 years...and I have been doing the same [posting photos of NUMEROUS WEIDER ATHLETES without having the problem - year after year...I talked about that already - but th ebest example would be - training photos of Ronnie 3 weeks out from 2006 Mr. O...followed by SPECTACULAR posing photos of Jay - 2 weeks out...]

My photos are also used in Weider publications from time to time (making me some kind of FLEX photographer if you really want to think about it...on top of everything else)...

In LONG conversation with Robin I kept giving him many scenarios where I could "work around the contract if need be" - just to be "politically correct"...
Simplest one (which I mentioned repeatedly: I could have Silvio's moderator post the photo on his site first...and 2 seconds later I could copy that same photo and put on my site...here on getbig...etc)

So, WHO ARE WE KIDDING?

There was NEVER a problem...until Shawn created it (as miserable "low life" can't do anything productive or good...and this kind of things just fuel him and excite him - as he loves putting other people in trouble and enjoys watching it...).

He involved both Robin and Bob - and that's how we got ourselves a problem...What's worst Shawn did that in the worst possible time for Silvio - right before stepping on the stage - which is just unbelievable to me...
Shawn wanted to separate me and Silvio...and Silvio fall for it...

Something was created out of nothing ...breach of contract was NOT the issue...but sure "sounds good"...

And that is after I did everything for Weider/AMI to secure publication contract with Silvio as his manager at the time who made sure Silvio goes with AMI instead of MD...as Steve Blechman was calling for Silvio like his house was on fire...

After bringing Silvio personally to Weider office and making sure he would do photos even less than a week away from the contest (something that competitors really don't want to do)...etc..etc...

I always have THE BEST interest for the athletes...Weider organization...and the IFBB...and somehow for some people it appears exactly the opposite .