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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #600 on: May 20, 2007, 12:10:44 AM »
Quote from: Chick on May 19, 2007, 07:12:58 PM
Here's a news flash for you smartguy....thats why we have a  R E P R E S E N T A V E...YOU KNOW...TO REPRESENT ALL THE PRO'S.....Much like we have "the house of representatives" and senators, etc.

Nothing gets past you, huh?

Here is the news for you Bob:

R E P R E S E N T A T I V E...you know REPRESENTS ALL THE PROS (emphasis on ALL THE PROS ;))...

One who ASK all the pros, listen to all the pros...support all the pros...understand all the pros...gets their votes...and represent what they voted for...contrary to WHAT YOU ARE DOING...Nothing gets past you, huh?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #601 on: May 20, 2007, 06:31:23 AM »
bob

read this very carefully:

to breach is a wilfull act. one must actively DO this act.

silvio did NOT post his pics on Milos' site ie "DO this act", therefore he DID NOT breach his contract.

'ignorance is no excuse' would only apply if silvio actually did the act.

do you understand yet ???
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #602 on: May 20, 2007, 07:09:38 AM »
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #603 on: May 20, 2007, 08:00:13 AM »
Quote from: Vince Basile on May 19, 2007, 08:31:42 PM

I posted my photos because several were bagging me about my body composition.... Not one person said I look okay. Don't you people find that odd?

Same question Goodrum asks. You're educated. Figure it out.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #604 on: May 20, 2007, 08:00:41 AM »
Quote from: BEAST 8692 on May 20, 2007, 06:31:23 AM
bob

read this very carefully:

to breach is a wilfull act. one must actively DO this act.

silvio did NOT post his pics on Milos' site ie "DO this act", therefore he DID NOT breach his contract.

'ignorance is no excuse' would only apply if silvio actually did the act.

do you understand yet ???

yeah but there is also 'reasonable care by a reasonable person' and 'negligence' to consider.

it all depends on how the contract was worded
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #605 on: May 20, 2007, 08:12:49 AM »
Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on May 20, 2007, 12:34:21 AM
As far as the rest - Silvio is now in your hands - as he definitely deserves you...I have nothing more to say about that...
I got him two contracts

"Nothing more" lasted three dots.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #606 on: May 20, 2007, 12:35:33 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on May 20, 2007, 08:12:49 AM
"Nothing more" lasted three dots.


LOL.  Three dots, and five more words.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #607 on: May 20, 2007, 03:18:17 PM »
Quote from: BEAST 8692 on May 20, 2007, 06:31:23 AM
bob

read this very carefully:

to breach is a wilfull act. one must actively DO this act.

silvio did NOT post his pics on Milos' site ie "DO this act", therefore he DID NOT breach his contract.

'ignorance is no excuse' would only apply if silvio actually did the act.

do you understand yet ???

Understand this my friend...this wasnt the FIRST go round...it was the SECOND.

Both Milos AND Silvio were warned that if it happened AGAIN, then it would be a breach...

Silvio let Milos take the pics...the pics were posted.

The athlete was to be held accountable, as they told him he would.

The athlete is accountable for his likeness...PERIOD.

Do you understand yet?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #608 on: May 20, 2007, 03:22:24 PM »
It's like Milos is shooting Silvo up with gear....


but since Silvo is not actually the one depressing the syringe....


Silvo can claim he's a natural & is doing nothing wrong....so blame Milos

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #609 on: May 20, 2007, 04:03:02 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 03:18:17 PM
The athlete is accountable for his likeness...PERIOD.

Do you understand yet?


In Saudi Arabia, an unmaried woman is held accountable for her virginity...PERIOD.

Doesn't matter if she's raped...  she still gets stoned to death for not being a virgin.


Same logic, Bob...  I think you'd do well in the Arab world!  :D

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #610 on: May 20, 2007, 04:07:06 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 04:03:02 PM

In Saudi Arabia, an unmaried woman is held accountable for her virginity...PERIOD.

Doesn't matter if she's raped...  she still gets stoned to death for not being a virgin.


Same logic, Bob...  I think you'd do well in the Arab world!  :D



great analogy...














If Milos held a gun to his head....
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #611 on: May 20, 2007, 04:09:50 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 04:07:06 PM
great analogy...

If Milos held a gun to his head....


I'll bet I can take a picture of you without holding a gun to your head.  Hell, even $20 Lou Ferrigno gets unauthorized snaps taken of him all the time. 

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #612 on: May 20, 2007, 04:12:07 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 04:09:50 PM

I'll bet I can take a picture of you without holding a gun to your head.  Hell, even $20 Lou Ferrigno gets unauthorized snaps taken of him all the time. 



we're not talking about candid pictures...
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #613 on: May 20, 2007, 04:15:07 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 04:12:07 PM
we're not talking about candid pictures...

Does the contract specify what is/ is not a "candid shot"?

For example, I walk up to you and shove a camera in your face and say "smile Bob", what are you gonna do, cower and run away?  Of course not... you'll probably smile and shoot a "thumbs up" or something.  If I then toss the pics up on Getbig, are you in breach of your contract?

After all, "the athlete is held responsible for his likeness...PERIOD."
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #614 on: May 20, 2007, 04:21:52 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 04:15:07 PM
Does the contract specify what is/ is not a "candid shot"?

For example, I walk up to you and shove a camera in your face and say "smile Bob", what are you gonna do, cower and run away?  Of course not... you'll probably smile and shoot a "thumbs up" or something.  If I then toss the pics up on Getbig, are you in breach of your contract?

After all, "the athlete is held responsible for his likeness...PERIOD."

yes, it does.

there have been a million pics posted online from expo's, with fans etc.....
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #615 on: May 20, 2007, 04:28:03 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 04:21:52 PM
yes, it does.

there have been a million pics posted online from expo's, with fans etc.....


Milos is not a professional photographer or journalist...  why would his shots not be "candid pictures", assuming Silvio had no knowledge of what he intended to do with them?



Another seperate point....  Milos says that the contract allows athletes to post pics on their own websites.  Is this true?  If so, then his point is valid that this is all procedural BS, given that Milos could easily have posted the pics on Silviosamuel.com or whatever, then had someone copy/paste to his board and getbig and there would be no breach even if Silvio did know what was going on.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #616 on: May 20, 2007, 04:37:15 PM »
nobody likes my analogy?

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #617 on: May 20, 2007, 04:42:20 PM »
Quote from: knny187 on May 20, 2007, 04:37:15 PM
nobody likes my analogy?

 ;D


Not really, Ben.


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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #618 on: May 20, 2007, 04:50:14 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 04:42:20 PM

Not really, Ben.




Joe, of all people.....I thought you got off about two guys bending over & taking on a little oil
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #619 on: May 20, 2007, 04:52:01 PM »
This board sure makes it hard to know what reality is. Topics are discussed and debated and then hours later, when I get up, everything is gone and no trace is left. Did those discussions actually occur? Well, if you save pages you might have an archive.

I see it is business as usual and everyone is innocent of all charges.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #620 on: May 20, 2007, 05:45:40 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 05:41:40 PM
And, I took many pictures.

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #621 on: May 20, 2007, 07:13:21 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 05:41:40 PM
He won't answer you because you are right.


And, I took many pictures. Hide took many. Oscar. Milamar. Owen. Even Milos' 9 year old daughter!

...saying Milos took the pictures and Milos posted them is stupid. Not a single photographer in the bunch. Not a single dime made from the photos. Not a single pre-meditated photo. All candid.

Candid photos are fine...specific photos posted on Milos website was not, as was explained to him by Robin Chang. It doesn't matter if you AGREE with their policy...they write the check.It's not stupid, it's the facts.

But I'd like to ask you Chick - why do you keep bringing this up when Ron said it was a non-issue and Silvio was never in danger of loosing his contract? Is Ron wrong? And Shawn was just playing a mean trick?

And if Ron is wrong, why bring this up now? With Silvio? Did he have a poison pill in his contract that none of the other bbers who worked w/ Milos had? If so, that poison pill could easily be fought (and my guess won) in court.

Just a couple more relevant questions you won't answer.

I've answered ever "relevant" question with an equally relevant answer..

Ron is wrong, and yes, he was in a bad position reguarding his contract as I had a meeting with Robin Chang to address this very issue and what the reprocussions may be...that being said....no, I dont think Robin would have taken it that far...but he also has to answer to AMI.

Shawn wasnt playing any trick..he meant well, his choice of when to tell Silvio could have been better, certainly.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #622 on: May 20, 2007, 07:21:11 PM »
garraeth just doesnt get it ::)
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #623 on: May 20, 2007, 07:24:41 PM »
Quote from: Milos_Sarcev on May 20, 2007, 12:02:14 AM
He was asking for NAMES Bob...Not your assumption of who must be grateful for all those wonderful things you did... ::)
You can start with the names ANYTIME... ;)


I don't think such a list of names exists. In Bob's mind EVERYONE supports him without question and therefore he
is not accountable to anyone much less the people he is supposed to represent.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #624 on: May 20, 2007, 07:27:20 PM »
Quote from: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:21:11 PM
garraeth just doesnt get it ::)
nobody gets it doofus, explain it to us.

Why Silvio?

Why now?

Why right before he went on stage?


Why would Silvio ask Bob to get involved, if he had been working, living, eating, training, etc,etc,etc with Milos?

Why would Sean Rey give Silvio free furniture, suspiciously at this time?

Why would Bob spend all this time/energy defending Sean and himself?

Where is Sean to answer for his actions?

Why does Sean like "that kind" of "woman"?

Why does sgt.d hang off of Seans nuts like they were gravy?


Answer these ?'s
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