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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #625 on: May 20, 2007, 07:29:04 PM »
Quote from: chaos on May 20, 2007, 07:27:20 PM
nobody gets it doofus, explain it to us.

Why Silvio?

Why now?

Why right before he went on stage?


Why would Silvio ask Bob to get involved, if he had been working, living, eating, training, etc,etc,etc with Milos?

Why would Sean Rey give Silvio free furniture, suspiciously at this time?

Why would Bob spend all this time/energy defending Sean and himself?

Where is Sean to answer for his actions?

Why does Sean like "that kind" of "woman"?

Why does sgt.d hang off of Seans nuts like they were gravy?


Answer these ?'s

Wow what a meltdown. Im so far in your head :-*
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #626 on: May 20, 2007, 07:29:50 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:28:45 PM
sgt. d just doesn't get it  ::)

Yes that must be it
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #627 on: May 20, 2007, 07:31:34 PM »
Quote from: sgt. d on May 20, 2007, 07:29:04 PM
Wow what a meltdown. Im so far in your head :-*
actually you're not in my head, I don't even think of you unless I read your posts. I want answers to these ?'s, you spouted off at the mouth like you know, so answer them or STFU stupid :-*
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #628 on: May 20, 2007, 07:32:54 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:18:21 PM
So Ron is wrong. We now know that. Does he?

Candid photos are ok. What's the difference between candid and what was taken at Milos' gym? We aught to clear this up since all bbers will forever be responsible for all photos taken of them.

And, Shawn is an ass. We already knew that...

And you didn't answer Goatboy's or my question about why now, and why Silvio -- specifically? After all these years and all these previous bodybuilders.





Actually, he didn't answer my question about whether Milos' claim that contracted athletes are allowed to post pics on their own site, and whether if true this isn't just procedural BS?

Further, he never explained why these pics were not "candid" under the definition used in the contract.  Especially now that we know YOU (and other fans) took many of them.   Chick...  how on god's green earth can you even try to argue that a pic taken by frickin' Garreath, in a gym open to the public is not a "candid" shot as defined by the contract?  I guess if I walk into Gold's Venice while you're there, get you to pose for a snap or two, then post them on Milos' website you're screwed, huh?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #629 on: May 20, 2007, 07:33:13 PM »
AMI/IFBB   Cant control photos anymore than you can control "Pirated"music downloads and movies.  Youtube will change everything too.

Silvio can post a pic on his site and a thousand guys cany copy and send around the world in a matter of seconds!!!!!!!!!!   Silvio would never know....

This will be impossible to control even for the nazi ifbb.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #630 on: May 20, 2007, 07:34:54 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:31:46 PM
Your retorts are always so profound Shawn. With such an IQ, you aught to run for President (the guy who runs the USA).

Everybody cant be as smart as you ::) You are so in love with shawn that you think everybody is him. I dont blame you, shawn is awesome :)
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #631 on: May 20, 2007, 07:35:07 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:18:21 PM
So Ron is wrong. We now know that. Does he?

Ron is only "wrong" in that he only knew so much...obviously, I knew all the details as I was the one nr=egotiating with Robin on Silvios behalf.

Candid photos are ok. What's the difference between candid and what was taken at Milos' gym? We aught to clear this up since all bbers will forever be responsible for all photos taken of them.

Easy..."candid" photo's are one taken at Expos, seminars, appearances, with fans, etc....this differs from photo's taken by photographers, magazine people, and industry people taking them for the  specific purpose(s), like posting them on THEIR websites to promote themselves, or their sites, etc.

AMI is paying the athlete for this exclusivity...and have cracked down on it lately. Silvio is not the first to receive a warning in these reguards. If it gets out of control..whats the point of paying the athlete?

And, Shawn is an ass. We already knew that...

And you didn't answer Goatboy's or my question about why now, and why Silvio -- specifically? After all these years and all these previous bodybuilders.

This isn't anything thats "now", it's always been...and the rules getting more and more "bent" as the internet gets bigger puts the company in a "zero tolerance" position.

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #632 on: May 20, 2007, 07:38:19 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:35:07 PM
Easy..."candid" photo's are one taken at Expos, seminars, appearances, with fans, etc....this differs from photo's taken by photographers, magazine people, and industry people taking them for the  specific purpose(s), like posting them on THEIR websites to promote themselves, or their sites, etc.

How is Garraeth (and other fans that work out at Milos' gym who took pics) an "industry person"?

What is the definition of an "industry person" in the contract?


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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #633 on: May 20, 2007, 07:39:15 PM »
Anyone have contact info for AMI or Robin Chang?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #634 on: May 20, 2007, 07:41:13 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 07:32:54 PM

Actually, he didn't answer my question about whether Milos' claim that contracted athletes are allowed to post pics on their own site, and whether if true this isn't just procedural BS?

That's not neccessarily true, as contracts and companies vary in what they will allow. Many companies request that the athlete DOES NOT post pics on their own sites, as they wish to drive traffic to their own site...thats what they're paying for. Most athletes would have nomproblem with this, as they can collect a check every month for this right...or post pics all day long for FREE and make peanuts.


Further, he never explained why these pics were not "candid" under the definition used in the contract.  Especially now that we know YOU (and other fans) took many of them.   Chick...  how on god's green earth can you even try to argue that a pic taken by frickin' Garreath, in a gym open to the public is not a "candid" shot as defined by the contract?  I guess if I walk into Gold's Venice while you're there, get you to pose for a snap or two, then post them on Milos' website you're screwed, huh?

What , exactly, dont you understand here? I've explained it as simply as I can....YES...you can take all the pics as a fan the athlete will allow. Different worlds.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #635 on: May 20, 2007, 07:43:06 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 07:38:19 PM
How is Garraeth (and other fans that work out at Milos' gym who took pics) an "industry person"?

THEY'RE NOT.What is the definition of an "industry person" in the contract?

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #636 on: May 20, 2007, 07:44:10 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:35:07 PM
This isn't anything thats "now", it's always been...and the rules getting more and more "bent" as the internet gets bigger puts the company in a "zero tolerance" position.


The internet is what makes this an issue.  The IFBB is trying to control something they can't control.  Any pic, taken at any time, can end up on the internet, and once on the net can be copied from site-to-site around the world in minutes.

Is Silvio supposed to hide from cameras, or is he supposed to be a mind-reader and know exactly what everyone who snaps a pic might do with it?

Seems to me that unless he knew what people intended to do with those pics and gave his permission for them to do it, it really isn't his problem.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #637 on: May 20, 2007, 07:44:19 PM »
does silvio even speak english?  or comprehend it?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #638 on: May 20, 2007, 07:45:11 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:43:06 PM
How is Garraeth (and other fans that work out at Milos' gym who took pics) an "industry person"?

THEY'RE NOT.


Then why are pics taken by Garraeth and posted on Milos' site a problem for Silvio?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #639 on: May 20, 2007, 07:45:31 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:41:13 PM
What , exactly, dont you understand here? I've explained it as simply as I can....YES...you can take all the pics as a fan the athlete will allow. Different worlds.

Does that mean Milos is not a fan of Silvio?

Did Milos tried to sell the pictures?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #640 on: May 20, 2007, 07:45:44 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:43:47 PM
So does this mean all the pics Rick, Oscar, Hide, Milamar, Alex and I took are fair game?

All those named are just fans.

HAS ANYONE COMPLAINED?

Post all the thumbs up poses you can...!
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #641 on: May 20, 2007, 07:46:43 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 07:45:11 PM

Then why are pics taken by Garraeth and posted on Milos' site a problem for Silvio?

What pics?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #642 on: May 20, 2007, 07:48:19 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:46:43 PM
What pics?

Apparently, some of the pics on Milos' site that Robin was bitching about were taken by Garraeth.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #643 on: May 20, 2007, 07:52:08 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 07:48:19 PM
Apparently, some of the pics on Milos' site that Robin was bitching about were taken by Garraeth.

Now you guys see why the athlete under contract is to be held responsible...

If the pics were taken BEFORE all this bullshit, then there is no problem.

If you took pics TODAY, then yes...it's a problem.

If Silvio did a photo shoot for Garreth to post on Milos' site, then it's a problem.

I'm not going to go over every single senario....common sense would answer most of your questions.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #644 on: May 20, 2007, 07:52:55 PM »
Quote from: G o a t b o y on May 20, 2007, 07:48:19 PM
Apparently, some of the pics on Milos' site that Robin was bitching about were taken by Garraeth.
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:43:47 PM
So does this mean all the pics Rick, Oscar, Hide, Milamar, Alex and I took are fair game?

All those named are just fans.
not just Garraeth, fans of all shapes and sizes ;D




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Quote from: chaos on May 20, 2007, 07:39:15 PM
Anyone have contact info for AMI or Robin Chang?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #645 on: May 20, 2007, 07:54:44 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:45:44 PM
HAS ANYONE COMPLAINED?

Post all the thumbs up poses you can...!
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #646 on: May 20, 2007, 07:56:23 PM »
Quote from: garraeth on May 20, 2007, 07:53:51 PM
Ok, but why do you call it a "photo shoot" when I take the pictures? I'm just a fan, remember? I'm not Issac. I've NEVER EVER done photography.

So what if I, as a fan, took pictures of Silvio today? And posted them today?

And it sounds like part of the problem lies in posting the pictures to Milos' site. Can I post them to my website? TeamMustafa.com?
Finally you are starting to see the light.

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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #647 on: May 20, 2007, 07:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:52:08 PM
Now you guys see why the athlete under contract is to be held responsible...

If the pics were taken BEFORE all this bullshit, then there is no problem.

If you took pics TODAY, then yes...it's a problem.

If Silvio did a photo shoot for Garreth to post on Milos' site, then it's a problem.

I'm not going to go over every single senario....common sense would answer most of your questions.
is any time you take a picture of a pro considered a photo shoot?
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #648 on: May 20, 2007, 07:56:47 PM »
Quote from: Chick on May 20, 2007, 07:52:08 PM
Now you guys see why the athlete under contract is to be held responsible...

If the pics were taken BEFORE all this bullshit, then there is no problem.

If you took pics TODAY, then yes...it's a problem.

If Silvio did a photo shoot for Garreth to post on Milos' site, then it's a problem.

I'm not going to go over every single senario....common sense would answer most of your questions.


How was Silvio supposed to know what the hell Garraeth planned to do with the pics he took?  That's the whole fuccking problem here.

And when dealing with legal contractual issues, no you can't "just use common sense", since what might be common sense to one party to the contract might not be to the other party.  That's the whole point of written contracts and spelling everything out in detail.
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Re: Bob Chick - Athlete's Representative?
« Reply #649 on: May 20, 2007, 07:58:45 PM »
Chick is just a sour puss

Shawn is already worse than a puss


Shawn doesn't like Milos and he's dragging "innocent" Bob Chick as his playmate
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