Jay looks amazing aside from Ruhl he has the best upper chest development I have ever seen. I remember Jim Rockell saying on Dan Gastelu's show that Jay doesn't have a deep set of abs. Not this time he is way ahead. I think he could be ready in 12 weeks. Ronnie as much as I don't want to count him out is going to have to bring back that monster that stepped on stage in 03 to knock out Jay without any questions.