Cutler 18 weeks out from the O.

[slaveboy1980]

jay doesnt look impressive enough to be mr o!

as for ronnie, he looks like shit, absolutely horrible.

just saw a clip from ronnies first movie (from 96 i think?), which i havent seen in a long time...he was amazing back then. and by 1998 he had all the size he ever needed.

ronnie arms are smaller than before, gut is still big, his muscles are lumpy etc etc.....he has fucked up his proportions and symmetry!

[pobrecito]

* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years

This is exactly what I was going to say, I have no doubts Coleman was juicing as a college football player.

[pobrecito]

you guys are nuts. the only thing that jay looks to have more conditioned is his midsection.

ronnies legs look contest ready, arms are diced, and he looks to be 30-40 pounds heavier then jay.

jay looks soft as usual.

ronnie had a bigger gut in the offseason in years past.

When will you people learn that biceps simply aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. Both Cutler and Yates had subpar biceps compared to other pros, yet they still became Mr. Olympia. Eventhough Ronnie's triceps aren't all that great from the side, he still has the greatest set of arms in the history of the sport. They are symmetrical, peaked, huge, separated and vascular. Yet Ronnie's arms did him nothing against Cutler. No reason to think they will this year either.

[musclecenter]

Compare to Coleman,I think Cutler must improve his bicepes's peak .
And the "most muscular pose". 

[phyxsius]

Everyone knows 06Olympia was fixed!!
This is master of obvious

Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic

[slaveboy1980]

Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic

only problem is that neither of them should have been in the top 3.

[eliscominblue]

Fixed or no fixed, Jay still beat Ronnie in that pic

[Benny B]

bwahaha!
Excuse me folks, I've never seen that cartoon before. 

[phyxsius]

only problem is that neither of them should have been in the top 3.

Look at Gunter in disgust..

[pumpster]

When will you people learn that biceps simply aren't that important in the grand scheme of things. Both Cutler and Yates had subpar biceps compared to other pros, yet they still became Mr. Olympia.

Quite the opposite, bis are one of the show muscles, appropriately named because they're inordinately important. Yates won despite this shortcoming, not because it didn't matter.

[ribonucleic]

Look at those freakin lats. 

Jay Cutler makes untermenschen of us all. 

[Laura Lee]

Jay Cutler makes untermenschen of us all. 

I wouldn't say that...but they are inpressive indeed. 

[Benny B]

to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the  (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)

but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER  GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,

Thanks for not allowing this MadMax guy to try and run bullshit by us.

[jason armstrong]

very good my friend,,very good


let me add little something here,,

to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the  (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)

but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER  GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,

in addition jason will not get any bigger than 295 with this kind of condition since he stands at 7%,,he will get down to 275-280 at 4% and step on stage  like everytime,,

beside kevin and coupe more who built it up,,,99% of us take it down from 20 to 50lb for a show,,

now thats is more of the truth so...keep it this way

* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years

Quoted for the truth.........
He's on GH slin year round there's no secret he can retain mass on that, plus low dose test.
he's so unhealthy he's got the bloodd work of a 60 year old by pass victim.
I really would hate to be him skin cancer blown liver cardiac arrest stroke thyroid and other pituatary problems kidney failure all great things to do for a trophy.
He'll be dead by 45

[Van_Bilderass]

very good my friend,,very good


let me add little something here,,

to tell you jason is off hormones is to SPIT IN YOUR FACES as either fans or bodybuilders/lifters,,jason face are so red looks like hes going to explode any moment,,he is at his biggest yet tight kept size due to following pretty strict diet! that he does! this also contributes to minimal side effects in addition to lots of anti estrogen drugs and ephedrine/clen that keepts everything tight and nice,,but the level/layer of water on his body due to heavy steroid use is very noticable and can nnever go away no matter how clean he eats,,he also have lots of empty oil stuck there which make it look like a doll as in pure rubber or silicon rather than true muscle,,but it is a combo of the  (80-90% muscle and 10-20% seo)

but he is on as much hormones as ron if not more,,yes even right now,,jason NEVER  GOES OFF OFF AS IN OFF,, he may be on 1gram testosterone insted of 2 grams,,which is similar to 200lb bodybuilder who is on 500mg test insted of 1 gram,,but off? no there is always something,,many somethings in the system,,
this is true to any other top amatuer and pro bodybuilder around no matter what level they are,,

in addition jason will not get any bigger than 295 with this kind of condition since he stands at 7%,,he will get down to 275-280 at 4% and step on stage  like everytime,,

beside kevin and coupe more who built it up,,,99% of us take it down from 20 to 50lb for a show,,

now thats is more of the truth so...keep it this way

* also to keep it real,,ron never won no pro card natural,,not even close,,,clenbuterol and ephedrine and plenty of diff anabolics were running through hi system long before,,but yes he didnt do at no 17 year old,,,he did it later during college years

Strong controversial but true post!  Madmax, do you really claim Jay is totally off?? LOL  Imagine Jay going off totally for several months, it would look like total disaster. You cannot maintain that type of physique with a crashed HPTA, get real.

[Necrosis]

HAHA jay is off and at 295 lean, bwahhahahahahaha.


why do people assume fans are fucking morons?

hes on test, gh, slin in that shot. Not to mention a few other anabolics.

[busyB]

He looks terrible in this pic. Not healthy at all.

Maybe he looks young because of his '90's mini Hi Top Fade! Long live Kid n Play 

[honest]

Off for pros is test gh and insulin, all natural occuring hormones in the body.

[gmflex]

Jay is looking great at 18 weeks

[Hurricane Beef !]

Thanks for not allowing this MadMax guy to try and run bullshit by us.

I agree with Benny.

Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"

The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls  crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.

The Beef

 

[suckmymuscle]

 gh might know some things about the bodybuilding scene, but, first year biology might not be his strong suit. I have been in school too long to believe that load of shit and neither should anyone else.

  GH15 is a moron. The only greater morons are those who believe he knows jack shit of what he's talking about.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[legbreaker]

ronnie 'fat' coleman is no where near this guy..dude just look how super lean jay is looking 18 weeks out ..ronnie looks like a tub of shit

It doesn't matter what you look like 18 weeks out.  jay can look lean 18 weeks out and still not have striated glutes on stage, still have low back wrinkles that even nat level guys don't have, still have delts that have little detail, arms that have such little detail you can not even differentiate between brachialis, becip tricep, hams that are sub par olympia level detail.

Yes, he obviously is a very good bodybuilder, but if not for the littl einjuries Ronnie was bothered by he would not have beaten him and should not have beaten him at the last grand prix show.

Ronnie looks like a freak....so far ahead of any development that could possibly be attained by a person while maintaining that degree of detail and hardness.
 
By the way, it is not difficult to be 8-10% year round with the hormones used and available today...Many know people that eat whatever they want and maintain that level with gh, igf, etc it's almost impossible to get fat unless you eat junk all day.

[legbreaker]

The drugs have very little to do with vascularity...genetics is the reason.  Ronnie has had pipe-like veins long before he started with AAS.

Drugs have LOTS to do with vascularity....Look at a guy with ten % fat that uses tren or eq and you will see the difference.....

However, remember that vascularity has nothing to do with judging a contest......  Only in cases where it is severe and can distract or ruin the appearance of a muscle would it ever come into play... 

[slaveboy1980]

I agree with Benny.

Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"

The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls  crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.

The Beef

 

good post. 

[MADMAX6]

I agree with Benny.

Can you picture that comment comming from a writer at this years Olympia press conference. " Yes, Jay . . . John Smith from the Ohio Times. I read ( from Dave ) that you stayed chemical free this year until just before contest prep time. " " If true Jay ( and we all know it is ) Would you care to take a polygraph?"

The shit would hit the fan . . . Jay bought into MuscleMax to save it from going under. He takes his end as a loss and writes off the contest winnings and contracts and in doing so, keeps Dave's Canadian ( I think ) ass off the streets and off the welfare system. In addition to his end, Jay gets this dude with " a school girls  crush " to spend 5 hrs per day on the net telling everyone who will read it that JAY IS GOD, because Jay is tired of hearing the voice in his head saying it all day long. The increased net exposure cons some young kids into comming into MuscleMAx and spending their money on MuscleTech shit and all the shirts and Dvd's they need to GETBIG, while allowing Jay to keep writing off his earnings and giving him another address to have his gear sent to.

The Beef

 

OMG!  You are a complete tool!  WOW!