Andreas Munzer

[njflex]

I personally knew a guy..made it to the national scene n never turned pro..he went up to 6 grams of test and 1200mg a tren a week for a short time..I also know he used gh n insulin..but never said how much.  The thing is he went to that level because he every time he didn't win an overall at a show he took more drugs. He ended up tearing muscles (quad while turning with the weight to do overhead tricep extension,,, his bicep and eventually his tricep while inclining 180lb dumbbells) which caused him to retire. Btw he came back yrs later in his 40's and he couldn't win his weight class at a local show

I BELIEVE IT...

[BossBoss]

Psychologically, he was no different than a cocaine junkie.

Münzer was an addict who used several grams of cocaine per day...

He was also on diuretics regularly between competitions, he used them for guest appearances wich he did constantly the whole year.

The same goes for several other steroids (orals etc.), he took them in high dosages for guest appearances, this was his basic income..
which he used for more cocaine\steroids.

[illuminati]

Münzer was a cocaine addict who used several grams per day...

He was also on diuretics regularly between competitions, he used them for guest appearances wich he did constantly the whole year.

The same goes for several other steroids (orals etc.), he took them in high dosages for guest appearances, this was his basic income..
which he used for more cocaine\steroids.

Worked out well for him


Oh wait. !!

[Matt]

Münzer was a cocaine addict who used several grams per day...

He was also on diuretics regularly between competitions, he used them for guest appearances wich he did constantly the whole year.

The same goes for several other steroids (orals etc.), he took them in high dosages for guest appearances, this was his basic income..
which he used for more cocaine\steroids.

Munzer used cocaine?

[Deacon Jeschin]

What killed this guy?

Have any theories changed?

Covid?

[Royalty]

Nasser EL Sonbaty said that Andreas Munzer was the nicest bodybuilder that he had ever met

[Van_Bilderass]

1500 - 2000mg tren a week  - Do you know of anyone who took 20+ Shots of Parabolan a week ?

No because it was discontinued in 97 and the dosages weren't pushed tthen like they are today. But you have exact copies easy to come by. It's pretty much like Tren E, hard to tell the difference. It's usually twice as expensive as Tren E because they can only dissolve about 100mg in a ml. Guys tell me it feels milder than Tren E but it's basically because they use less of it.

[Matt]

No because it was discontinued in 97 and the dosages weren't pushed tthen like they are today. But you have exact copies easy to come by. It's pretty much like Tren E, hard to tell the difference. It's usually twice as expensive as Tren E because they can only dissolve about 100mg in a ml. Guys tell me it feels milder than Tren E but it's basically because they use less of it.

I just picked up my gear for my upcoming cycle.

A friend of mine asked him to grab him a vial of Tren while I was at it. He's been slow to pick it up, and someone on here said Winstrol will damage my joint, which was what I was planning to run, alongside Test Prop.

Is Winny really so bad? Would Tren be better to run? A friend of mine said it is one of the few types of gear that passes the blood brain barrier, and is not to be messed with.

[Van_Bilderass]

I just picked up my gear for my upcoming cycle.

A friend of mine asked him to grab him a vial of Tren while I was at it. He's been slow to pick it up, and someone on here said Winstrol will damage my joint, which was what I was planning to run, alongside Test Prop.

Is Winny really so bad? Would Tren be better to run? A friend of mine said it is one of the few types of gear that passes the blood brain barrier, and is not to be messed with.

It's not because it uniquely passes the BBB, it's that it messes with emotions in a weird way. It makes you disgustingly obsessed with sex, makes you paranoid (girlfriend is cheating on me) and can make you snap in a second and if you don't catch yourself you might end up in some trouble. I used it a lot but I always wondered why I made myself go through this crap but still I did. In the darkness you have moments where you feel like a god. Women can smell this on you, it feels like you are more attractive to them. Maybe it's imaginary, maybe not. If you have a period where you want to have lots of kinky sex this is the drug for you.

Try the Winstrol and see for yourself. I think this is probably mostly imaginary because it's been repeated so much. I never noticed any special joint issues with it. It never made a big impression on me. All the popular orals probably can make you gain as much actual muscle protein at say 50mg. Win, Anavar, Dbol, Drol. I preferred Dbol for the wellbeing and Anadrol for strength.

[Fortress]

Eat a burger and call it a day.

The harm some inflict on their bodies is astounding.

But when your health begins to fail, well, you’d do anything to go back and make very different choices.

Munzer was obsessed and clearly of an unreasonable mind.

He committed suicide. Essentially.

[illuminati]

Eat a burger and call it a day.

The harm some inflict on their bodies is astounding.

But when your health begins to fail, well, you’d do anything to go back and make very different choices.

Munzer was obsessed and clearly of an unreasonable mind.

He committed suicide. Essentially.

"Munzer was obsessed and clearly of an unreasonable mind 

He committed suicide. Essentially "


Sounds a lot like Mike Mentzer.

[pamith]

Munzer used cocaine?

Brutal if true

[pamith]

I just picked up my gear for my upcoming cycle.

A friend of mine asked him to grab him a vial of Tren while I was at it. He's been slow to pick it up, and someone on here said Winstrol will damage my joint, which was what I was planning to run, alongside Test Prop.

Is Winny really so bad? Would Tren be better to run? A friend of mine said it is one of the few types of gear that passes the blood brain barrier, and is not to be messed with.

Why not just be natty?

[ThisisOverload]

I just picked up my gear for my upcoming cycle.

A friend of mine asked him to grab him a vial of Tren while I was at it. He's been slow to pick it up, and someone on here said Winstrol will damage my joint, which was what I was planning to run, alongside Test Prop.

Is Winny really so bad? Would Tren be better to run? A friend of mine said it is one of the few types of gear that passes the blood brain barrier, and is not to be messed with.

There is no reason to use Tren or Winny unless you plan to compete. If you take Winny take it orally, unless you want an infection. Every person i know who got a bad infection was shooting Winny.

Just use Test, Deca and Dbol.

You only care about strength anyway.

[Lartinos]

Test, EQ, and Dbol I think is better than Deca.

Deca gives me similar non androgenic side effects like gyno that Tren does.

Winny was a little tightening of the joints, but being used for a short time can be nice as it also helps against gyno and gives decent strength.

Too long on it would probably wreck my joints, but for a week or two I could handle it when a little bloated.

[Matt]

Why not just be natty?

To answer that question, here is a picture of me before and after my little wimpy Anadrol cycle, then another picture of me on cycle, followed my how I look today.

I don't give a shit what anyone says, there is nothing I can do naturally to have that full, pumped look that I have while "ON".

Yes, I could be closer by upping my protein intake, but running good gear will allow a person to maintain a 50% pump 24/7.

While natty, I stay pumped for an hour - with the brunt of it disappearing in 15 minutes.

That being said, I'm not willing to significantly compromise my health. Since I already have the gear, I'll be doing this cycle, but it may be my last.

If I have any firm reason to believe the odd summer cycle will compromise my health significantly, I'll stop forever, but I'm going to give this next cycle a legitimate try.

First, I'll be cutting to about 172, then bulking up to about 187.

Strength is good right now [deadlift = 500, bench press = 350 with a feather touch], but I'll be training for high reps, and think I can get to 187, but a LOT leaner than I was at 205 than I was on my last cycle.

Like I said, if I have good reason to believe this may seriously compromise my health, I won't do it again, but I don't think some Test and a little oral Winny will be that bad. But if it is - this will be my last time.

[bigbychoices]

 I am responding about the use of tren and winstrol. First remember EVERYONE can have different side effects so remember that. But Tren does in fact make a man more aggressive for sure. But then again almost every other steroid will at high enough doses. What Tren does in the brain is it does affect your pituatary gland. It increases your prolactin causing  gyno and NO sex drive! ( some guys says it increases theirs but in all honesty maybe at the beginning of the cycle but if you stay on for any length of time without anything to combat the high prolactin you will lose desire for sex) Of course getting the women has more to do with your confidence ( getting bigger and cut etc will give that to you) and women notice a CONFIDENT man. They also notice a man who is an asshole.                                                                                                           
                                                       Now winstrol will in fact dry out the joints and cause havic if you run it long enough without deca. ( deca helps with the joints) but then again deca can increase prolactin just like tren). So uise it cautiously. As far as the infections from injectable winny back in the day there was A LOT of fake winny and they were actually putting armor all in the vials!! Maybe they got some of that. Or some other type of fake winny. I have never heard of anyone getting an infection from good clean winny. Again everyone is different. 
                                                    People on here talk about drug cycles in yesteryear and how people like Lee priest can claim using so little gear. Well if anyone remembers the late great Dan Duchaine always said "steroids work best when you over train" It is true! They were developed to help cancer, burn and muscle wasting patients. So the guys back then over trained and looked awesome!  Guys now days think more drugs lots of drugs more more more and train very little. Also Dan had said that results are good up to 2000 total milligrams a week combined. BUT between 2000 and 5000 not much better for risk to benefit ratio BUT he said the sweet spot was 5000 and up. ( that is for todays bodybuilders that is why they use so much and look like shit because they let the drugs do the work and not train like they should plus the insulin and gh)
                                            And to set the record straight about Mike Mentzer drinking his own urine  during an interview for a muscle mag ( I think muscle media)  He was asked about Mentzer carrying around a jug of his urine. And Dan being Dan ( plus he did NOT like mike) said "I don't know But I think he drinks it".  lol. Dan knew Mike was having kidney issues and he had to piss in a jug all day every so often and return it to the kidney specialist. So hopefully that clears that up. But yes Mentzer did in fact go nuts after Arnold beat him.
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[Fortress]

To answer that question, here is a picture of me before and after my little wimpy Anadrol cycle, then another picture of me on cycle, followed my how I look today.

I don't give a shit what anyone says, there is nothing I can do naturally to have that full, pumped look that I have while "ON".

Yes, I could be closer by upping my protein intake, but running good gear will allow a person to maintain a 50% pump 24/7.

While natty, I stay pumped for an hour - with the brunt of it disappearing in 15 minutes.

That being said, I'm not willing to significantly compromise my health. Since I already have the gear, I'll be doing this cycle, but it may be my last.

If I have any firm reason to believe the odd summer cycle will compromise my health significantly, I'll stop forever, but I'm going to give this next cycle a legitimate try.

First, I'll be cutting to about 172, then bulking up to about 187.

Strength is good right now [deadlift = 500, bench press = 350 with a feather touch], but I'll be training for high reps, and think I can get to 187, but a LOT leaner than I was at 205 than I was on my last cycle.

Like I said, if I have good reason to believe this may seriously compromise my health, I won't do it again, but I don't think some Test and a little oral Winny will be that bad. But if it is - this will be my last time.

That carpet is something else.

[Van_Bilderass]

Test, EQ, and Dbol I think is better than Deca.

Question is why EQ at all? There's a reason many guys attempt to megadose it, like 1-3 grams a week on top of everything else. When I was on test or anything at all I never really noticed the addition of EQ. But people are different. EQ
also has the potential side of really nasty panic anxiety which isn't all that rare actually. I'm using a ml of EQ now which I got for free but I wouldn't pay for it.

Some of the biggest guys I know just really blast the hell out of test. One does like 3 grams of test and only periodically adds Parabolan when he really wants to push. The rest are left for precontest.

Tren is the only steroid I can really feel when added on top of other steroids. I can feel it on the psyche and sex drive in a day or two.

Test, Tren, Anadrol, that's my stack of choice if I want to gain as much as possible. Different goals, slightly different stacks and risks. Something like Test and Anavar might be the safest as Anavar has been found to not be much liver toxic. I read about prepubertal boys and girls getting 2.5mg of Anavar for like 6 months and one getting it for 38 months. and there were no short or long time sides, no effect on adult height. But they gained substantiall weight when they were getting it, bigger appetites.

[myosaurus]

What killed this guy?

Have any theories changed?

Read it in muscle media first.
It was cytadren that shut down the "fear flight fight" response of cortisol including stoppage of bleeding. He died from internal bleeding and all organs shut down afterwards.
There has been talks that it was a heart attack from diuretic use as well.
I'm guessing both.

[bhank]

I am responding about the use of tren and winstrol. First remember EVERYONE can have different side effects so remember that. But Tren does in fact make a man more aggressive for sure. But then again almost every other steroid will at high enough doses. What Tren does in the brain is it does affect your pituatary gland. It increases your prolactin causing  gyno and NO sex drive! ( some guys says it increases theirs but in all honesty maybe at the beginning of the cycle but if you stay on for any length of time without anything to combat the high prolactin you will lose desire for sex) Of course getting the women has more to do with your confidence ( getting bigger and cut etc will give that to you) and women notice a CONFIDENT man. They also notice a man who is an asshole.                                                                                                           
                                                       Now winstrol will in fact dry out the joints and cause havic if you run it long enough without deca. ( deca helps with the joints) but then again deca can increase prolactin just like tren). So uise it cautiously. As far as the infections from injectable winny back in the day there was A LOT of fake winny and they were actually putting armor all in the vials!! Maybe they got some of that. Or some other type of fake winny. I have never heard of anyone getting an infection from good clean winny. Again everyone is different. 
                                                    People on here talk about drug cycles in yesteryear and how people like Lee priest can claim using so little gear. Well if anyone remembers the late great Dan Duchaine always said "steroids work best when you over train" It is true! They were developed to help cancer, burn and muscle wasting patients. So the guys back then over trained and looked awesome!  Guys now days think more drugs lots of drugs more more more and train very little. Also Dan had said that results are good up to 2000 total milligrams a week combined. BUT between 2000 and 5000 not much better for risk to benefit ratio BUT he said the sweet spot was 5000 and up. ( that is for todays bodybuilders that is why they use so much and look like shit because they let the drugs do the work and not train like they should plus the insulin and gh)
                                            And to set the record straight about Mike Mentzer drinking his own urine  during an interview for a muscle mag ( I think muscle media)  He was asked about Mentzer carrying around a jug of his urine. And Dan being Dan ( plus he did NOT like mike) said "I don't know But I think he drinks it".  lol. Dan knew Mike was having kidney issues and he had to piss in a jug all day every so often and return it to the kidney specialist. So hopefully that clears that up. But yes Mentzer did in fact go nuts after Arnold beat him.
.

Duchaine also looked like shit kind of like taking advice from one of these skinny YouTube idiots like Leo or more plates more dates 

[bhank]

To answer that question, here is a picture of me before and after my little wimpy Anadrol cycle, then another picture of me on cycle, followed my how I look today.

I don't give a shit what anyone says, there is nothing I can do naturally to have that full, pumped look that I have while "ON".

Yes, I could be closer by upping my protein intake, but running good gear will allow a person to maintain a 50% pump 24/7.

While natty, I stay pumped for an hour - with the brunt of it disappearing in 15 minutes.

That being said, I'm not willing to significantly compromise my health. Since I already have the gear, I'll be doing this cycle, but it may be my last.

If I have any firm reason to believe the odd summer cycle will compromise my health significantly, I'll stop forever, but I'm going to give this next cycle a legitimate try.

First, I'll be cutting to about 172, then bulking up to about 187.

Strength is good right now [deadlift = 500, bench press = 350 with a feather touch], but I'll be training for high reps, and think I can get to 187, but a LOT leaner than I was at 205 than I was on my last cycle.

Like I said, if I have good reason to believe this may seriously compromise my health, I won't do it again, but I don't think some Test and a little oral Winny will be that bad. But if it is - this will be my last time.

Look at your build you want non aromatizing dry lean gainers that take time to recomp your body not mass gainers that will put more water and slop on you. You need to dry and lean out your estrogen is too high your body fat is too high basically while the androgens put size on you they didn’t change your condition fix your condition first you need to recomp and establish a weight you are lean at then bulk from there . Everyone says I am gaining and losing the same 15lbs and laughs but that is the idea to bulk a little then recomp a little and slowly bring the weight up with the condition. Unless you lose the fat first you are never going to be happy bulked up as you then come off and lose the muscle while keeping the fat. That’s what people don’t get androgens can give you size they don’t give you condition and your condition gets worse when you bulk so you need to start lean.

[joswift]

Duchaine also looked like shit kind of like taking advice from one of these skinny YouTube idiots like Leo or more plates more dates

yes, we should listen to people like you

[joswift]

Look at your build you want non aromatizing dry lean gainers that take time to recomp your body not mass gainers that will put more water and slop on you. You need to dry and lean out your estrogen is too high your body fat is too high basically while the androgens put size on you they didn’t change your condition fix your condition first you need to recomp and establish a weight you are lean at then bulk from there . Everyone says I am gaining and losing the same 15lbs and laughs but that is the idea to bulk a little then recomp a little and slowly bring the weight up with the condition. Unless you lose the fat first you are never going to be happy bulked up as you then come off and lose the muscle while keeping the fat. That’s what people don’t get androgens can give you size they don’t give you condition and your condition gets worse when you bulk so you need to start lean.

you have been in pretty much the same condition for 20 years at 225

the photos you posted dont lie

[bhank]

you have been in pretty much the same condition for 20 years at 225

the photos you posted dont lie

I wish I had been in this condition the last 20 years but yes I have been close a few times  but the last few years I have made gains I was in peak form around 2015 then I lost a lot of size then I started gaining it back again

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