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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2007, 11:31:56 AM »
itd be great to see Milos in!

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« Reply #126 on: May 24, 2007, 01:50:30 PM »
No Keith, I attend events and photograph the shows so guys like you who don't attend show can have beat off material. I've contributed more to bodybuilding in the last few years than you have but that's besides the point. You sit online and bash Shawn every chance you get. Good for you, whatever you need to do to feel better. I am attending this show as a photographer. I've chosen not to work with the Colorado Pro show this year and that is no secret. Running a pro show is not easy and if it were you'd certainly attempt to do so. Whatever happened to your PDI show promotion?

You're full of shit on calling the center and the whole back sections closed off and part of the side. I was there and it was not closed off.

Keith, Issac is right.  You didn't call the center and the back section was not closed off.  You can say what you want about who you want.  That is you right, but have some facts.  We should all be tired of the lies spewed on this board.  Facts, facts, facts that is what you need.  Let the old shit go.  You haven't attended a contest since the spider bite.  Which by the way has nothing to do with you weight gain.  We need more promoters working to build their contest so that we can offer more to the athlete.  Are you going to promote the PDI contest as you stated?  What's up...the PDI not guaranteeing you a return?

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #127 on: May 24, 2007, 05:43:30 PM »
I think Onlyme needs a woman, so he wont be angry. Poor man is mad at the world. :'(

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #128 on: May 24, 2007, 10:13:42 PM »
I think Onlyme needs a woman, so he wont be angry. Poor man is mad at the world. :'(

Sgt. who are you?  What is your purpose on this board?

I and many others who post here know what you are up to !

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #129 on: May 24, 2007, 11:19:06 PM »
I think Onlyme needs a woman, so he wont be angry. Poor man is mad at the world. :'(

Why would I be mad at the world.  I have had a great life.  I am only mad at a little spider who ruined what had.  But, no worries, "I'll be back"

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #130 on: May 25, 2007, 12:23:13 AM »
Back at the BUFFET LINE!

Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!
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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #131 on: May 25, 2007, 12:45:21 AM »
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003?  That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.

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« Reply #132 on: May 25, 2007, 12:49:49 AM »
Back at the BUFFET LINE!

Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!








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Sean, your biting arrogance always makes good reading.  Keith is not even on the same page as you!

Even though i have a problem with 'born agains' and philanderers, you i can forgive!

I hope the Colo is a success for you.

Peace.

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #133 on: May 25, 2007, 12:51:30 AM »
Back at the BUFFET LINE!

Keith, your remembered for yourlast failed attempt at Contest Promoting, you're intentions were good for the athletes but you Sucked as a Promoter!
That said, blame me because your "OVERPAID" me for appearing at your show as a "GUEST" I'll take the blame that I got paid what we mutually agreed upon before I left from Cali.
You're a Hater, that's cool and you wont be the last but dude, please GET A LIFE and quit with the Spider Bite Deal that was freaking 7 years ago and your STILL GAINING WEIGHT!
Try some Push aways, and turn the page on the CO PRO you wouldn't last 2 hrs in an airplane, the swelling you'd get from holding so much water wouldnt allow you to cross the Pacific to the main land.
Watch the show like you did last year online and put a sock in it!
Who's next? ;D

Hey Sean you get fat in the off season when you competed and you got very fat and soft after you retired.  What was your excuse.  Was it no drugs to help you lose the weight or were you just tired of pretending to love bodybuilding and went to eating like you were brought up to do.  My excuse was medical, your was not.   You mention the bit was 7 years ago but yet it still affects me proven with the 2 week stay in the hospital this past Christmas 7 years after the bite.  See moron you have NO excuse for looking like shit.  You just do it cause thats the real you.  You became a BB cause you are short and embarrased by that.  You lifted took steroids and got muscle.  But in reality you like the fat look and it is what fits you.  But you realize that people are making fun of you so you take some more drugs, lose weight and try to get into shape.  You realized you could NEVER win the big show and you were basically never going to win.  SO quit.  Good job.  And you were there as a guest poser as every pro I brought in agreed to pose at the end.  I asked you to come up on stage and honor your committment and you said right in front of may others, "I am to fat, I'm not going up there". SO yes, you are a piece of shit like everyone told me.  Then how about the money you ripped off from my friend who got you the room at the Kahala Mandarin.  What is your excuse for that one.  What story are you going to make up this time.  Dude face it, you are a piece of shit.  You rip off who you can when you can.  You get caught and you try to double talk your way out of it. 

And as a promoter I blow you away.  I put on an amateur NPC show on an island that is one of the most expensive place to live in the country and I had more people attend than you did.  You are some famous BB who couldn't even promote a show in Denver.  You bounced 9 checks to competitors and workers.  You disgraced yourself to the military.  Dude you are a disgrace.  think about it.  You think you are some almighty BB who thinks everyone loves him and yet hardly anyone likes you.  You have ripped off to many people.  You even ripped off the promoter of the last show you did here.  You promised him $1000 from Vyotech.  You then asked him to fly your wife out with you.  He said no problem the money from Vyotech will pay for it.  Then you call him and tell him Vyotech can only give him $500.  What happened to the other $500.  You kept it didn't you?  Simply put Sean you are a piece of shit.

And I bet this show is going to be a flop to.  And Vyotech will not be your title sponsor next year (if you even do the show again).  Get a life moron, your 15 minutes of fame was up when you retired. Quit pretending

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #134 on: May 25, 2007, 12:59:06 AM »
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003?  That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.
 

Call Will Harris.  And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid.  My god I thought you would never want to mention it.  And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced.  For all I know they took care of it by now.  And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor.  And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel.  Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette.  Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad.  And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others.  I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that.  But I talked him out of it.  So really let it go.  I did.  I like you and you put on a great show.  But what you did there and to me was pretty bad.  And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem.  SO really Dave let it go.

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #135 on: May 25, 2007, 01:00:54 AM »
Also Dave, interesting how my partner Tom O. still sent you shirts from Muscle Mafia after what you did to him on Maui with the Hotel.  And I love your originality with The Muscle Mob.  Let it go.

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« Reply #136 on: May 25, 2007, 01:01:41 AM »
Hey Sean you get fat in the off season when you competed and you got very fat and soft after you retired.  What was your excuse.  Was it no drugs to help you lose the weight or were you just tired of pretending to love bodybuilding and went to eating like you were brought up to do.  My excuse was medical, your was not.   You mention the bit was 7 years ago but yet it still affects me proven with the 2 week stay in the hospital this past Christmas 7 years after the bite.  See moron you have NO excuse for looking like shit.  You just do it cause thats the real you.  You became a BB cause you are short and embarrased by that.  You lifted took steroids and got muscle.  But in reality you like the fat look and it is what fits you.  But you realize that people are making fun of you so you take some more drugs, lose weight and try to get into shape.  You realized you could NEVER win the big show and you were basically never going to win.  SO quit.  Good job.  And you were there as a guest poser as every pro I brought in agreed to pose at the end.  I asked you to come up on stage and honor your committment and you said right in front of may others, "I am to fat, I'm not going up there". SO yes, you are a piece of shit like everyone told me.  Then how about the money you ripped off from my friend who got you the room at the Kahala Mandarin.  What is your excuse for that one.  What story are you going to make up this time.  Dude face it, you are a piece of shit.  You rip off who you can when you can.  You get caught and you try to double talk your way out of it. 

And as a promoter I blow you away.  I put on an amateur NPC show on an island that is one of the most expensive place to live in the country and I had more people attend than you did.  You are some famous BB who couldn't even promote a show in Denver.  You bounced 9 checks to competitors and workers.  You disgraced yourself to the military.  Dude you are a disgrace.  think about it.  You think you are some almighty BB who thinks everyone loves him and yet hardly anyone likes you.  You have ripped off to many people.  You even ripped off the promoter of the last show you did here.  You promised him $1000 from Vyotech.  You then asked him to fly your wife out with you.  He said no problem the money from Vyotech will pay for it.  Then you call him and tell him Vyotech can only give him $500.  What happened to the other $500.  You kept it didn't you?  Simply put Sean you are a piece of shit.

And I bet this show is going to be a flop to.  And Vyotech will not be your title sponsor next year (if you even do the show again).  Get a life moron, your 15 minutes of fame was up when you retired. Quit pretending



Who is the miserable piece of shit?  It is you Keith!

If you were content and at peace with your life, you would not come on this board and continually attack Sean!


Stop deferring responsibility Keith.  If you are that unhappy with how your life and physique have turned out, then do something about it!  

Dont keep attacking Sean as a way of dealing with your own personal issues!

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #137 on: May 25, 2007, 01:04:02 AM »
KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003?  That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.
This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)


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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #138 on: May 25, 2007, 01:12:34 AM »
This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)



Keith, you dirty, scheming, manipulating dog. 

Haven't you done enough already to discredit this so-called sport?

You have run a few dodgy BB pageant's; so fricken what!

And also, try picking up the phone and speak to these people.  Stop doing your dirty work over the internet!

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #139 on: May 25, 2007, 01:46:00 AM »


Who is the miserable piece of shit?  It is you Keith!

If you were content and at peace with your life, you would not come on this board and continually attack Sean!


Stop deferring responsibility Keith.  If you are that unhappy with how your life and physique have turned out, then do something about it! 

Dont keep attacking Sean as a way of dealing with your own personal issues!

Hey pussy what are in love with Sean.  He can fight his own battles.  What kind of fag are you.  Keep with ow business you have no idea what you are talking about.  Everyone on here can see right thru you.  Stay off the board.  If you want Sean's number ask someone.  He'll come private pose for you anytime.  But really stay out of something you know NOTHING about.  Makes you look dumber than you already are.  Hope this helps.

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« Reply #140 on: May 25, 2007, 01:57:04 AM »
Calm down Keith, please just calm down! 

You have much anger and hatred within you. 

Why do you find it necessary to be in constant attack mode? It is you who is ultimately suffering out of all of this!

Keith, why are you always looking for validation through this forum?  Move on, get a life.  You come across as a whingeing and moaning attention-whore.

Keith, to tell you the truth, no one on here cares that you are a latent- homosexual.  It is only you that has the identity crisis.


I hope that you find peace in your life Keith.


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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #141 on: May 25, 2007, 02:00:10 AM »
Keith, you dirty, scheming, manipulating dog. 

Haven't you done enough already to discredit this so-called sport?

You have run a few dodgy BB pageant's; so fricken what!

And also, try picking up the phone and speak to these people.  Stop doing your dirty work over the internet!

hahahah, yea I am the one who discredited BB.  Yep I did it!.  YOU MORON!  Now I see hwy you are so angry.  DId you take last place in one of the dodgy BB pageants.  Dude hang it up already, you're done.

This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)


This coming from a 'man' that sold people rat poison ::)



I have never said anything bad about Dave on here.  I read his stuff and go on cause I figured I didn't want to get into with him over what happened here.  But, then out of the blue he comes up with this shit.  Will Harris was paid 3 or 4 years ago.  A friend of mine sponsored Ryan to come out to the show.  Ryan was awesome and did everything.  We took him to Maui and the Big Island and had a great time.  He got paid something but ended up we owed him more.  The guy Robert sent him a check and I heard it bounced.  I talked to Ryan after and gave him the contact info for Robert and figured everything was good.  Dave came over the first year for just airfare and hotel and per diem.  He just wanted to come over.  He was great.  So he called me and asked to come the next year and voluteered the same deal.  I flied him and Collette out.  I think they went to Maui first.  There was a problem with the hotel my friend put them up in or something but got a call from my friend telling me it was a nightmare.  Dave got to Oahu and I paid him his per diem.  Something came up where one of my guestposers could make it or something and then Dave all of a sudden wanted $600 food money for him and Collette.  He asked the day before the show.  He said he wouldn't guest pose unless I paid him.  I was stuck.  So I ended up giving him $300 cash.  I told him I think really that was enough.  Nobody get $600 meal money for 3 days.  If I didn't give him what I did he wouldn't have showed up to the show.  So thats the story and allot of people knew about him not charging and was doing it just for the airfare, hotel and per diem.  The Pearl Harbor thing is a whole other story that I would rather not tell unless he wants to keep this up.  The money thing is done between us.  Or you can get it from Sean who owes me $600.  There is your answer, get it from Sean.  You see him all the time.  I'll give you a 100% finders fee.  You can keep it all.

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #142 on: May 25, 2007, 02:03:32 AM »
Calm down Keith, please just calm down! 

You have much anger and hatred within you. 

Why do you find it necessary to be in constant attack mode? It is you who is ultimately suffering out of all of this!

Keith, why are you always looking for validation through this forum?  Move on, get a life.  You come across as a whingeing and moaning attention-whore.

Keith, to tell you the truth, no one on here cares that you are a latent- homosexual.  It is only you that has the identity crisis.


I hope that you find peace in your life Keith.



Hey Hank was wondering why are you on here.  Have you competed or promoted a show or just a fan of muscles.  Seriously, you have never had any serious input on any thread.  You are obviously in love with Sean.  Which is fine if you are into the girly type of short man.  That's your preference.  But, really other than that why are you here.  By the way I have a life and a pretty damm good one.  Overweight right now but still enjoying life.  How about you?  What is wrong with your life.  Get it out here.

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #143 on: May 25, 2007, 02:15:16 AM »
Hey Hank was wondering why are you on here.  Have you competed or promoted a show or just a fan of muscles.  Seriously, you have never had any serious input on any thread.  You are obviously in love with Sean.  Which is fine if you are into the girly type of short man.  That's your preference.  But, really other than that why are you here.  By the way I have a life and a pretty damm good one.  Overweight right now but still enjoying life.  How about you?  What is wrong with your life.  Get it out here.


Keith, why do you find it necessary to patronise me?  Why are you constantly attacking others who share a viewpoint contrary to yours? 

If you were happy with your own life Keith, it would not bother you how people like Sean, chose to live theirs.

You are fat, so what?  What matters is how you relate to the world you live in. It is apparent from your posts, that you are in conflict with this world Keith.

And also, you state that i am in love with Sean.  Interesting assessment Keith. 



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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #144 on: May 25, 2007, 02:36:38 AM »

Keith, why do you find it necessary to patronise me?  Why are constantly attacking others who share a viewpoint contrary to yours? 

If you were happy with your own life Keith, it would not bother you how people like Sean chose to live theirs.

You are fat, so what?  What matters is how you relate to the world you live in. It is apparent from your posts, that you are in conflict with this world Keith.

And also, you state that i am in love with Sean.  Interesting assessment Keith. 


And also, I beleiv

I don't attack people who disagree with me.  I attack the people who attack me.  Thats just me.  You gang up on me about Sean which has nothing to do with you.  Am I supposed to ignore Sean who constantly includes me in his threads and calls me fat.  If thats all he can say then that's a sad thing.  He has  so many bad things about him it is easy to attack him.  See you don't me.  I have never met you.  I do business and remain friends with people even after 20+ years of not talking.  I can call up a friend from high school and it would be like we just saw each other yesterday.  I have nothing to be mad about.  I have lead a life that many can only wish for.  SO you and Sean trying to make it sound like I lead a sad life or whatever is funny as hell.  My worst day is better than most peoples best day.  Stop getting involved with the shot I say to Sean and things would be cool.  Nothing I say about him is false or a lie. 

The funny thing is these past few posts got me to look at some old emails I had from my show.  And the positive remarks I got from the pros and sponsors in attendance and allot of the competitors really made me feel pretty good. I also read some nightmare ones from when I was getting things together and I really see what hell I went through to do the shows.  Here is just one.  I forgot all about the fact I signed the contract for the convention center on Nov. 1.  The show was May 25, 26 and 27 the next year.  The center was paid in full in advance ($41,000).  I had posters, radio, and a bunch of other marketing materials promoting the show all over Hawaii and the mainland, including full pages ads in magazines.  I had poster even up in the offices of the convention center.  Even banners hanging in the airport.

Well I just read an email that brought back a nightmare.  3 weeks before the show the convention center called me to tell me they made a mistake.  They thought is was just a two day show that ended on the 26.  I called and told them NO it is 3 days and went down there to talk to them.  It ended up they had made a mistake and booked an event on Monday afternoon.  Now I had already had everything ready to go for the three days.  But now I have to change things and we had to be out by noon on Monday.  So now I have to pay extra to pay the convention people to break down everything early.  Well thats not all.  I had to pay for the extra day since they only charged me for 2 days.  I couldn't believe it.  But they ended up charging my credit card an additional $6,000 the day before the event.  It was a nightmare. 


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« Reply #145 on: May 25, 2007, 02:57:51 AM »
I don't attack people who disagree with me.  I attack the people who attack me.  Thats just me.  You gang up on me about Sean which has nothing to do with you.  Am I supposed to ignore Sean who constantly includes me in his threads and calls me fat.  If thats all he can say then that's a sad thing.  He has  so many bad things about him it is easy to attack him.  See you don't me.  I have never met you.  I do business and remain friends with people even after 20+ years of not talking.  I can call up a friend from high school and it would be like we just saw each other yesterday.  I have nothing to be mad about.  I have lead a life that many can only wish for.  SO you and Sean trying to make it sound like I lead a sad life or whatever is funny as hell.  My worst day is better than most peoples best day.  Stop getting involved with the shot I say to Sean and things would be cool.  Nothing I say about him is false or a lie. 

The funny thing is these past few posts got me to look at some old emails I had from my show.  And the positive remarks I got from the pros and sponsors in attendance and allot of the competitors really made me feel pretty good. I also read some nightmare ones from when I was getting things together and I really see what hell I went through to do the shows.  Here is just one.  I forgot all about the fact I signed the contract for the convention center on Nov. 1.  The show was May 25, 26 and 27 the next year.  The center was paid in full in advance ($41,000).  I had posters, radio, and a bunch of other marketing materials promoting the show all over Hawaii and the mainland, including full pages ads in magazines.  I had poster even up in the offices of the convention center.  Even banners hanging in the airport.

Well I just read an email that brought back a nightmare.  3 weeks before the show the convention center called me to tell me they made a mistake.  They thought is was just a two day show that ended on the 26.  I called and told them NO it is 3 days and went down there to talk to them.  It ended up they had made a mistake and booked an event on Monday afternoon.  Now I had already had everything ready to go for the three days.  But now I have to change things and we had to be out by noon on Monday.  So now I have to pay extra to pay the convention people to break down everything early.  Well thats not all.  I had to pay for the extra day since they only charged me for 2 days.  I couldn't believe it.  But they ended up charging my credit card an additional $6,000 the day before the event.  It was a nightmare. 



Keith, it is not a case of me and Sean ganging up on you!  I happen to share some of Sean's criticisms of you.  Is that a crime? 

Are you beyond criticism now Keith?  Or are you simply a control freak who finds it difficult to work outside the box?

Peace.

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #146 on: May 25, 2007, 05:24:17 AM »
Hey Hank was wondering why are you on here.  Have you competed or promoted a show or just a fan of muscles.  Seriously, you have never had any serious input on any thread.  You are obviously in love with Sean.  Which is fine if you are into the girly type of short man.  That's your preference.  But, really other than that why are you here.  By the way I have a life and a pretty damm good one.  Overweight right now but still enjoying life.  How about you?  What is wrong with your life.  Get it out here.

Dear Kieth ( aka onlyme), I have no idea about what went down with some business dealings with you and Shawn Ray, nor is it my business, nor do I care. So why am I even responding?
You seem like a reasonable guy, but very frustarted about some past dealing. If he really did you wrong you should have taken him (Shawn ) to court or made an official complaint to the IFBB, etc.
Sounds like you did promote some good shows on the Island, but don't any longer, for whatever reason.Obviously, you no longer are involved with Shawn in any official way, so why sweat it.
It also sounds like you have a decent happy life. In my humble opinion you should just let this whole thing go bye bye and enjoy life.

Shawn is just  doing the best he can in the very unpredictable, wacky world of bodybuilding contests.
Sadly, Shawn did cross the line as well, by going on ad naseum about this and getting way too personal towards you.
Shawn should have simply said, that he is doing the best he can to promote a quality event and keep the $$$ issues in order as well , in response , instead of going on and on ....
I will just chalk that up as an internet feud over some old crap that got heated. I have been there , done that too.
I will tell everyone that is a pro or promoter, etc, that much of this inernet bickering crap that goes on between the pros and those running the shows, leaves a bad impression for the fans about our sport.
Even if you "win" the on line argument, the sport suffers another black eye.
Sincerely, Howard in Ga

As a Joe Blow fan, I simply look fwd to attending a good event and buy a good seat, etc.
Kelly Ryan married well!  Free Titus!

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #147 on: May 25, 2007, 05:28:08 AM »
Dear Kieth ( aka onlyme), I have no idea about what went down with some business dealings with you and Shawn Ray, nor is it my business, nor do I care. So why am I even responding?
You seem like a reasonable guy, but very frustarted about some past dealing. If he really did you wrong you should have taken him (Shawn ) to court or made an official complaint to the IFBB, etc.
Sounds like you did promote some good shows on the Island, but don't any longer, for whatever reason.Obviously, you no longer are involved with Shawn in any official way, so why sweat it.
It also sounds like you have a decent happy life. In my humble opinion you should just let this whole thing go bye bye and enjoy life.

Shawn is just  doing the best he can in the very unpredictable, wacky world of bodybuilding contests.
Sadly, Shawn did cross the line as well, by going on ad naseum about this and getting way too personal towards you.
Shawn should have simply said, that he is doing the best he can to promote a quality event and keep the $$$ issues in order as well , in response , instead of going on and on ....
I will just chalk that up as an internet feud over some old crap that got heated. I have been there , done that too.
I will tell everyone that is a pro or promoter, etc, that much of this inernet bickering crap that goes on between the pros and those running the shows, leaves a bad impression for the fans about our sport.
Even if you "win" the on line argument, the sport suffers another black eye.
Sincerely, Howard in Ga

As a Joe Blow fan, I simply look fwd to attending a good event and buy a good seat, etc.


said by an insider with an agenda  ::)  lets be perfectly honest

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #148 on: May 25, 2007, 05:35:30 AM »
 

Call Will Harris.  And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid.  My god I thought you would never want to mention it.  And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced.  For all I know they took care of it by now.  And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor.  And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel.  Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette.  Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad.  And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others.  I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that.  But I talked him out of it.  So really let it go.  I did.  I like you and you put on a great show.  But what you did there and to me was pretty bad.  And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem.  SO really Dave let it go.

keith, as a fellow promoter; why wouldn't you be righting the checks directly to ensure that the athlete are compensated rather than allowing sponors to issue checks.  That would be no different than an employer asking a vending to make payroll...just doesn't add up.  You call Shawn a thief because he got paid what was agreed, but now someone comes forth with evidence that you infact were the one not living up to your agreement.  You acknowledge the issue, so can you explain why you not a thief?

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Re: 2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????
« Reply #149 on: May 25, 2007, 05:40:04 AM »
hahahah, yea I am the one who discredited BB.  Yep I did it!.  YOU MORON!  Now I see hwy you are so angry.  DId you take last place in one of the dodgy BB pageants.  Dude hang it up already, you're done.

I have never said anything bad about Dave on here.  I read his stuff and go on cause I figured I didn't want to get into with him over what happened here.  But, then out of the blue he comes up with this shit.  Will Harris was paid 3 or 4 years ago.  A friend of mine sponsored Ryan to come out to the show.  Ryan was awesome and did everything.  We took him to Maui and the Big Island and had a great time.  He got paid something but ended up we owed him more.  The guy Robert sent him a check and I heard it bounced.  I talked to Ryan after and gave him the contact info for Robert and figured everything was good.  Dave came over the first year for just airfare and hotel and per diem.  He just wanted to come over.  He was great.  So he called me and asked to come the next year and voluteered the same deal.  I flied him and Collette out.  I think they went to Maui first.  There was a problem with the hotel my friend put them up in or something but got a call from my friend telling me it was a nightmare.  Dave got to Oahu and I paid him his per diem.  Something came up where one of my guestposers could make it or something and then Dave all of a sudden wanted $600 food money for him and Collette.  He asked the day before the show.  He said he wouldn't guest pose unless I paid him.  I was stuck.  So I ended up giving him $300 cash.  I told him I think really that was enough.  Nobody get $600 meal money for 3 days.  If I didn't give him what I did he wouldn't have showed up to the show.  So thats the story and allot of people knew about him not charging and was doing it just for the airfare, hotel and per diem.  The Pearl Harbor thing is a whole other story that I would rather not tell unless he wants to keep this up.  The money thing is done between us.  Or you can get it from Sean who owes me $600.  There is your answer, get it from Sean.  You see him all the time.  I'll give you a 100% finders fee.  You can keep it all.

Keith, you must man up and accept the responsibilty of your actions.  Don't defer the issue to Shawn.  Again this would be like asking a vendor to cover your payroll or having them go to one of your customers for payment.  In business the buck must stop with you.