2007 Colorado Pro - Milos Sarcev is in????

[texasbubba]

If I recall thats what he said.  But I am sure he'll come here and say it was 4 months or some off the wall number.  It could be also that he just ran out of drugs for that show.

Qurious as to what your best placement at any pro show has been?  Remember, glass houses shatter when fired upon.

[Big N]

lol trust me he reads this posts fast and he "hides" as in offline. You gotta save the picture i sent you by using the 2nd button on your mouse and hit "SAVE TARGET AS". Once you do that in your post click "ADDITIONAL OPTIONS" and upload the pic from ATTACH BROWSE your computer

[knny187]

talk about beating a dead horse

[chaos]

How convenient that Chick and texasbubba show up at the same time

[texasbubba]

How convenient that Chick and texasbubba show up at the same time

Been here for a while.  How convenient you and Onlyme are here at the same time...Let's stop the bashing and talk BB.

[onlyme]

Qurious as to what your best placement at any pro show has been?  Remember, glass houses shatter when fired upon.

I was National Champion (amateur) in 1983 and World Champion in 1986 (professional).  I competed in maybe 20 events in those three years.  And yes I do know about the Glass House adage, that is why I have no problem answering EVERY question and proving as much as I can what I say and do. Sean on the other hand side-steps and avoids confrontation cause he has NO backbone.  He hides, ignores or responds with a witty one-liner.  I have NOTHING to hide

[onlyme]

Hey Texas take a look at the History Board where I am a Mod.  There you will see and read how I really am.  I keep that board clean and real and about this industry.  He is out of control and just a bunch of shit-slinging.  I have been in the industry since the late 70's so really my dedication and passion should never be put in question. 

[chaos]

Been here for a while.  How convenient you and Onlyme are here at the same time...Let's stop the bashing and talk BB.

how can we talk bodybuilding when you act like you know everything about everybody but refuse to ID yourself. You can't be taken seriously.

I am an anonymous fan, I don't claim to be anyone special, so don't even go there

[New Hank Wood]

Hey Texas take a look at the History Board where I am a Mod.  There you will see and read how I really am.  I keep that board clean and real and about this industry.  He is out of control and just a bunch of shit-slinging.  I have been in the industry since the late 70's so really my dedication and passion should never be put in question. 

Keith, your dedication and passion for this so-called sport has never been questioned.  I think all on here agree that, you are a true-supporter of bodybuilding.

The 'real' issue is your 'credibility' in regards to your recollection of events!

  You seem to have selective-memory when it comes to Sean and his dealings with you. 

Keith, your anger and bitterness has twisted the truth.  You cant be trusted anymore.  This anger you harbour toward Sean, has clouded and confused everything in your life. No one in their right mind would want someone like you to promote their show!

Keith, you have become a rambling and ranting moron.

It is time to let the 'Sean thing' go!

Peace.

[Shawn Ray]

Keith your rambling obsession with me is not only funny but boarderline compulsive.
You can't post without having my name on your mind and in your head.
Let it go, the way you did with your weight, you'll feel better.
The Fat Guest Posing picture was taken in July of 99, I placed 5th after the photo in the Olympia which was October back then, do the math!
That said, as you so elequantly like to distort the facts. The Military will be in FULL Force once again in CO with the help of Jeff Conrad, the guy you implied I screwed over. Well I guess he liked it as he is back and we are giving the Military Comp Tickets for their service to the country like they do at the Olympia.
You have the floor now and then some, it wont change the fact that your promoting days are over and so is seeing your feet while standing.
With some help you maybe able to stand up again and see those toes but only after years of Push away's.

This thread is dead and so is Onlyme

[Disgusted]

Keith your rambling obsession with me is not only funny but boarderline compulsive.

Yeah and you otta know about bein obsessed with someone.  Is the prayer meetin still on this weekend? 

[Shawn Ray]

In the morning we can all Pray that Keith finds a cure for his complusion of getting SMACKED Down while CHOWIN Down!

[huge285]

KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003?  That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.

 

Call Will Harris.  And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid.  My god I thought you would never want to mention it.  And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced.  For all I know they took care of it by now.  And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor.  And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel.  Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette.  Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad.  And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others.  I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that.  But I talked him out of it.  So really let it go.  I did.  I like you and you put on a great show.  But what you did there and to me was pretty bad.  And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem.  SO really Dave let it go.

KEITH, I find it funny how JIM MANION told me you'll never promote another NPC show.........and it's also funny how after doing over 200 guest posings over the last 10 years, I've never had a problem with any other promoter.  And the reason for that is........NOT THE MONEY..........because I don't need your money........it's the lack of respect you showed for the ONLY TWO GUEST POSERS (Colette and myself) who showed up for your show.  You didn't even provide a ride from my fleabag hotel you put us in.  That just shows your lack of respect for me.........which is a reflection of your lack of respect for yourself.  I've spoke my peace.  All the pros who've dealt with you know what you're about.  I feel sorry for you.  Feel free to go on a tirade of rationalization now so that you can somehow feel justified for what you did.  Not to forget; the most classic line of the weekend utterred by you in response to my explaining my food requirements, "WHAT KINND OF A PERSON EATS 6 MEALS A DAY?".......

[hazbin]

as a true bodybuilding fan since the 70's i'm here to keep up on gossip of the sport. i'm not privy to the inner circle of truth to events and goings on. i have to try to extract the truth from what i read in these posts.

shawn,bubba,hank - all three of you guy(s?) would be a lot easier to believe if you stuck to the facts, answered the accusations without any insults or mudslinging. every time i see that i think "they got shawn there, he has to distract with insults to change the topic." i don't know if this is correct, but it is a logical assumption when you see this defense mechanism.

shawn, you were a superstar to the sport. even if you put these not so famous people in their places with your insults; you still lose, because all the hate you are creating for yourself is causing a lot of gross accusations toward your character. this isn't something a fan wants to know (question) about one of there idols.

like i've stated. us fans don't know whose right or wrong, but those who stick to the facts tend to garner a lot more respect, whether they are right or wrong.

rik

[240 is Back]

This thread is dead and so is Onlyme

What does this mean, Shawn?

[sgt. d]

It's because their stories are full of holes...isn't it obvious? How many times have I called Sgt. d, telletubby and shawn out on their mudslinging and non-answer tactics (rhetorical -- for you three)?

Why do you feel the need to throw my name in your font? Every thread I click on you have something to say about me. Why should I answer you? You are nobody. You will never amount to nothing in life. You have a couple of workouts with milos and now you think you are some celebrity? I find it strange before you had your workouts with milos, you never had a problem with shawn. Now all of a sudden you want to take sides with milos. For years you have been the clown on this site. I used to feel bad for you when everybody on here joked on you. I suggest you take your little ass to bed because your not on my level.

[onlyme]

Shawn wasn't even supposed to guest pose at that show...he filled in at the last minute.

Enough Keith....

Quit pretending like you know shit Chic.  I never said he was suppose to guest pose. He was suppose to be in the mass posedown where every other pro in attendance and others went up on stage and posed with all the competitors.  Hell even Flex went up and took his shirt off and he was in pretty bad shape but he kept his word.  You look dumber and dumber when you stick your nose into things you know nothing about. 

Remember when you called me wanting to come over and I told you I didn't have the money to bring more.  Then you called me to tell me Fux can't come cause he got hurt and Mattarazzo can't come.  You literally told me the day it happened.  You begged me to come over since those two guys couldn't.  I remember calling Mike and telling him that someone called to tell me he got hurt and couldn't come over.  He was so pissed off at whoever told me.  He kept asking me who it was cause he was so mad.  I never told him.  But its interesting how quick you decided to tell me they were hurt so I could bring you over.  But I wish I had brought you over instead of Sean.  Should brought you over instead off Boeving too.  You need to let Sean fight his own battles.  What kind of yellow pussy is he.  When he is caught lying so much he gives up and hides.  What a man that guy is.

[onlyme]

And your responses make your Christ like?  If you live in a glass house don't throw stones.  WWJD?

You really need to understand something.  I never said I am a born again Christian or anything.  I don't pretend at all.  I say what I say.  Sean pretends.  I don't.  He is a weak little man who can't fight his own fights or debate on his own.  He's quite a girly man.  Hope his show does great though.

[onlyme]

Keith, your dedication and passion for this so-called sport has never been questioned.  I think all on here agree that, you are a true-supporter of bodybuilding.

The 'real' issue is your 'credibility' in regards to your recollection of events!

  You seem to have selective-memory when it comes to Sean and his dealings with you. 

Keith, your anger and bitterness has twisted the truth.  You cant be trusted anymore.  This anger you harbour toward Sean, has clouded and confused everything in your life. No one in their right mind would want someone like you to promote their show!

Keith, you have become a rambling and ranting moron.

It is time to let the 'Sean thing' go!

Peace.

Please tell me where I am missing something.  ANd Sean (since this is you) I want you to disprove the things I have said.  Did you or did you not run the bill at the hotel over $600 and never paid.  Yes or no. Did you or did you not cause a disturbance in the lobby of one of the most prestigious hotels in Hawaii and  embarrass my friend.   Yes or no did you say "I am to fat to go on stage" when I told you to go up and pose with the rest of the guys.  You were ever suppose to guest pose.  I never once said that.  You were suppose to do the mass posedown like everyone else or are you to special.

[sgt. d]

Please tell me where I am missing something.  ANd Sean (since this is you) I want you to disprove the things I have said.  Did you or did you not run the bill at the hotel over $600 and never paid.  Yes or no. Did you or did you not cause a disturbance in the lobby of one of the most prestigious hotels in Hawaii and  embarrass my friend.   Yes or no did you say "I am to fat to go on stage" when I told you to go up and pose with the rest of the guys.  You were ever suppose to guest pose.  I never once said that.  You were suppose to do the mass posedown like everyone else or are you to special.

You act like shawn did something to people in your family. Let it go
If it happen, it happen. If it didnt, then oh well. Its not that serious

[onlyme]

KEITH, how about making good on the CHECKS YOU BOUNCED as payment to Will Harris, Ryan Knealy, and myself for appearing at your ALOHA CLASSIC in 2003?  That's the reason you'll never promote another NPC show.

 

Call Will Harris.  And Dave do you really want to get into why you didn't get paid.  My god I thought you would never want to mention it.  And the check to Ryan was written by one of the sponsors and it bounced.  For all I know they took care of it by now.  And remember Dave there were allot of witness's to what you did at Pearl Harbor.  And if I dig through my emails I can dig up the one where you said you would come over just for airfair and hotel.  Remember you were the one who changed the terms after you arrived to where you wanted $600 for meal money for you and Collette.  Really you should just let that one die cause it makes you look really bad.  And don't forget the IFBB official who was witness to what you did at Pearl Harbor along with the others.  I remember him telling me he was going to call Manion and tell him what happened and that you should be kicked out of the NPC for that.  But I talked him out of it.  So really let it go.  I did.  I like you and you put on a great show.  But what you did there and to me was pretty bad.  And by the way I even paid you $300 in cash for meal money which was still way more than anyone should get for 3 days plus you got the per diem.  SO really Dave let it go.

KEITH, I find it funny how JIM MANION told me you'll never promote another NPC show.........and it's also funny how after doing over 200 guest posings over the last 10 years, I've never had a problem with any other promoter.  And the reason for that is........NOT THE MONEY..........because I don't need your money........it's the lack of respect you showed for the ONLY TWO GUEST POSERS (Colette and myself) who showed up for your show.  You didn't even provide a ride from my fleabag hotel you put us in.  That just shows your lack of respect for me.........which is a reflection of your lack of respect for yourself.  I've spoke my peace.  All the pros who've dealt with you know what you're about.  I feel sorry for you.  Feel free to go on a tirade of rationalization now so that you can somehow feel justified for what you did.  Not to forget; the most classic line of the weekend utterred by you in response to my explaining my food requirements, "WHAT KINND OF A PERSON EATS 6 MEALS A DAY?".......

I'm not doing another NPC show cause I would'nt want to.  DO you recall your ignorance at Pearl Harbor.  Do recall you making an idiot of yourself.  If not ask Will Harris or ask the IFBB official (who wanted to call Manion on it but I told him no) and the others there including the Naval Liason who was so embarrassed he had to apologize to the one of the officers in attendance.   INteresting how you didn't comment on that.  I think you take way to much shit and it clouds your mind.  You are getting selective like Sean.  Didn't we send you to Maui and you complained about the hotel there too to Tom.  Yes.  I didn't get any other complaints about the hotel and I put up about 30 people there.  But I guess you are used to better accommodation's.   I took care of the pros.  Even brought them in early to take them deep sea fishing and tours of the island.  What other promoter does that.  Like I said Dave, you were up on stage for me both years and were awesome, but when you ask for $600 in meal money for 2 days thats just stupid especially after you already arrived.  Even Bill couldn't believe it.  Why didn't you ask for it before you came over.  But as far as I am concerned you it's done.  Oh I just read that last quote you said I said.  Why do you make that shit up?  Why would I say that?  Don't start going down the lines like Sean. 

[onlyme]

You act like shawn did something to people in your family. Let it go
If it happen, it happen. If it didnt, then oh well. Its not that serious

I did let it go.  Sean is the one that starts up all this.  He mentions me in almost every post.  He has to put some fat joke in.  If I wanted the money so bad I would have flown to LA and just take it from him.  It wouldn't be hard believe me.  I have people who owe me way way way more than that and I let it go, just like I did with Sean.  But he keeps popping off his little mouth about me so I go right back at him.  The only problem is he pretends like he has done nothing wrong.  He isn't even man enough to admit it.  His arrogance and lack of integrity just makes him the piece of shit everyone knows he is.  And he comes back just months ago and rips off another promoter here.  He deserves everything I throw at him and more.  He needs to be a man one day.  WHen he stops putting my name I stop.  Simple as that.  But hey I hope he has a great show

[onlyme]

You act like shawn did something to people in your family. Let it go
If it happen, it happen. If it didnt, then oh well. Its not that serious

Oh I forgot, I am sure you know what would have happened to Sean if it affected my family in anyway.

[New Hank Wood]

Please tell me where I am missing something.  ANd Sean (since this is you) I want you to disprove the things I have said.  Did you or did you not run the bill at the hotel over $600 and never paid.  Yes or no. Did you or did you not cause a disturbance in the lobby of one of the most prestigious hotels in Hawaii and  embarrass my friend.   Yes or no did you say "I am to fat to go on stage" when I told you to go up and pose with the rest of the guys.  You were ever suppose to guest pose.  I never once said that.  You were suppose to do the mass posedown like everyone else or are you to special.

Keith,  Sean has made it quite clear where he stands on these issues!

It is you Keith who needs to deal with the realities of this. 

Your mind has become clouded and the events you describe are distorted with confused detail.

[onlyme]

Keith,  Sean has made it quite clear where he stands on these issues!

It is you Keith who needs to deal with the realities of this. 

Your mind has become clouded and the events you describe are distorted with confused detail.

I was wondering were you there.  Were you standing next to me when the manager of the Kahala Mandarin told me what happened and that he paid for the extra cost out of his own pocket and I said no way you did him a favor I will pay for it cause it was my rrequest.  Please tell me where you were standing so I can picture who you were.  I am not distorted at all.  I may forget somethings or mix them up but I am pretty right on in these cases.  especially since we talk about them so much.  Yes Sean has made it quite clear.  I am just another sucker who bought his bullshit.  He is right about that.  My bad.