Life after juicing.

[ricosauve]

The longer one uses steroids, the bigger the mental problem.

so you are big juicer then

[BEAST 8692]

so you are big juicer then

lol

[Playboy]

True..

But trying telling that to the anti-roid people here and they'll respond with a pic as though that has something to do with the topic at hand. I don't approve of steroid use, but I don't honestly give someone a hard time because they're using the stuff.

They also need to realize that there is a natural board to accomadate people like them here and they should leave the hardcore topics to the hardcores of the forum.

PB

[Croatch]

Don't stop juicing.  Training naturally isn't meant for most people, just look around the gym and you'll see that.  It's a whole different thing.  There aren't any magic pills or needles when things get tough.
Take it from me, a huge juicer for 2 months back in 94'.
Hope this helps.

[Earl1972]

Steroids are for insecure people.

the same can be said about anybody that lifts weights

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[Drogon]

Before I ever touched juice, I kinda had the mentality of so many naturals on this board. "Easy fix. If I used, I'd be huge. Blah. Blah. Blah."

Well, after using roids, i can say it does make muscle building easier, but a truly good physique is BIG and CUT. Not just big. Not just cut. And fucking idiots like TA and Daddywaddy who think they're all the shit. Yeah, they have cuts, but not mass. For most naturals, it's either  being big or ripped. To be both, u need the drugs.

To those who say that roids shouldn't be used because u cannot be Ronnie coleman, that's true. But with juice, hard training, diet and cardio, u can have a physique that is more or less unattainable to the general public. As a natural, u probably will have a nod of admiration from most people, but when on gear, people look at you in amazement. Because u're huge AND ripped.

But the ride is over for me for a few months at least. Been training for more than a year without a break. Cardio EOD at least. Good diet. Need a mental and physical break from it.

[realkarateblackbelt]

the same can be said about anybody that lifts weights

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To a degree, but I think every man desires to improve himself physically, and in every facet of life. It's also a personal challenge.

Any seconde-rate trainer can take juice and blow up though. If you're willing to put your health at risk to look freakishly huge it's insecurity definately. You probably got a small cock, are unusually short, were picked on as a kid, or a combination of all three.

[realkarateblackbelt]

hahahah I take it you do? hahahahaha. How does it feel to know most naturals look better than you? hahahaha

[Matt C]

The longer one uses steroids, the bigger the mental problem.

Not necessarily.  There is something called the DSM-IV-TR which psychologists and other mental health experts use to measure mental problems.  By no means is every lifetime juicer automatically considered mentally disordered.  It certainly applies to some, but it would be a fallacy to suggest it applies to all.

More information: http://www.dsmivtr.org

[BEAST 8692]

hahahah I take it you do? hahahahaha. How does it feel to know most naturals look better than you? hahahaha

 

[realkarateblackbelt]

If that's him in his picture it's a true statement. 

[BEAST 8692]

If that's him in his picture it's a true statement. 

most naturals?

ummm...ok

[realkarateblackbelt]

most naturals?

ummm...ok

Yes, most serious naturals look better hahaha.

[americanbulldog]

The longer one uses steroids, the bigger the mental problem.

Wow, can't believe I actually agree with this clown. 

[BEAST 8692]

Yes, most serious naturals look better hahaha.

...ha ha ha huh he hih hmmmmm...

[musclecenter]

I do know a real natural bodybuilder can not win any contest nowadays !
(even in a local contest here Taiwan)
But I still insist be a lifetime natural !
Because I  still can training and maintain a pretty good shape over 35 years as 54 now.
Where are those juiced bodybuilders who had ever competed with me before ?
Winning a contest not everything .
I'm not against anyone who use drugs in this board ,just tell you guys the fact as I have seen.

[BEAST 8692]

I do know a real natural bodybuilder can not win any contest nowadays !
(even in a local contest here Taiwan)
But I still insist be a lifetime natural !
Because I  still can training and maintain a pretty good shape over 35 years as 54 now.
Where are those juiced bodybuilders who had ever competed with me before ?
Winning a contest not everything .
I'm not against anyone who use drugs in this board ,just tell you guys the fact as I have seen.

54 years young! well done musclecenter!!

[Andre Nickatina]

I'm more thankfull for natural gains i make now, plus if you juice no one outside the industry will have respect for you even if you worked hard for it.

Mars is very correct.

[realkarateblackbelt]

I do know a real natural bodybuilder can not win any contest nowadays !
(even in a local contest here Taiwan)
But I still insist be a lifetime natural !
Because I  still can training and maintain a pretty good shape over 35 years as 54 now.
Where are those juiced bodybuilders who had ever competed with me before ?
Winning a contest not everything .
I'm not against anyone who use drugs in this board ,just tell you guys the fact as I have seen.

They can't "win" but they can look better than second-rate juicers like "Ricosuave."

[musclecenter]

more details:http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=117526.0

[omg]

I do know a real natural bodybuilder can not win any contest nowadays !
(even in a local contest here Taiwan)
But I still insist be a lifetime natural !
Because I  still can training and maintain a pretty good shape over 35 years as 54 now.
Where are those juiced bodybuilders who had ever competed with me before ?
Winning a contest not everything .
I'm not against anyone who use drugs in this board ,just tell you guys the fact as I have seen.

those juiced bodybuilders have finally grown up and realised muscle is temporary, and the effort put in getting so big for so little money is better spent getting an education or doing business

[realkarateblackbelt]

Most juicers are very lazy people in general.

[BEAST 8692]

Most juicers are very lazy people in general.

damn, your opinions are so 'well formulated'.

let's have a look at a couple of your 'well formulated' opinions:

1. most natural bbers look better than rico suave

2. most juicers are very lazy people in general

absolute gems.

tell me, where do you do your research for 'well formulated opinions' like these?

[realkarateblackbelt]

damn, your opinions are so 'well formulated'.

let's have a look at a couple of your 'well formulated' opinions:

1. most natural bbers look better than rico suave

2. most juicers are very lazy people in general

absolute gems.

tell me, where do you do your research for 'well formulated opinions' like these?

hahahaha "ricosuave" oh brother. The name just screams loser.

[BEAST 8692]

hahahaha "ricosuave" oh brother. The name just screams loser.

'realkarateblackbelt' doesn't scream wannabe loser to you?

sorry, should have checked his user name, ricosauve. whatever that means.

i'm not dissing your opinion rkbb and maybe rico does look crap for a juicer. i'm not an expert on the subject so i can't give an opinion on that, but to say that most naturals look better/same is just plain stupid.

so that means you're either disingenuous or stupid. which one is it?