GARDASIL DANGERS STARTING TO EMERGE- Was 3 now 5 Deaths!

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http://www.newswithviews.com/Tenpenny/sherri14.htm

GARDASIL DANGERS STARTING TO EMERGE

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO
May 24, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

Problems with the cervical cancer vaccine for girls as young as 9 starting
to emerge.

Five schoolgirls at Sacred Heart Girls' College in suburban Melbourne,
Australia, were confirmed to have taken ill after receiving an injection of
Gardasil, the newest vaccine to be mandated for young girls. Soon after the
vaccination, twenty-six girls were seen at the campus medical clinic; five
were admitted to the hospital after being injected. Two of the girls kept in
overnight in observation for dizziness; one had temporary paralysis and loss
of speech.[1]

In the U.S., symptoms similar to those experienced by the Australian girls
have been reported to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS.)
Since the approval of the vaccine in June, 2006, there have been 1261
adverse events reported. Here are a few examples directly from the VAERS
reporting pages:

Immediately after injection patient complained of severe pain at site. Fell
off table and fainted for approximately 10 - 15 seconds. Hyperventilating.
Complained of headache, blurry vision; vision test was normal. Vomiting x 1
in parking lot and speech was momentarily inarticulate. Sent to ER where her
neurological exam was normal except for word recall "coffee instead of
coughing" and said "Sired instead of tired."

A female patient was vaccinated with a first dose of HPV Vaccine.
Subsequently as the patient was leaving the examination room, the patient
fainted. The patient recovered shortly after fainting.

A 14 year old female was vaccinated with Gardasil. It was reported that the
patient was sitting on a bench. When the nurse left the room, the patient
apparently fainted and ended up falling off bench. It was reported that it
was unsure if the patient had broken her nose but there was blood. At the
time of this report, the outcome of the events were unknown.
VAERS is a passive surveillance system and depends upon voluntary reporting
by clinicians of serious health problems following vaccination. Reports can
also be filed by parents. Although VAERS reports do not prove causation,
they can provide a warning system that a vaccine may be causing health
problems.

It has been estimated that fewer than 10 percent, even as low as 1 to 4
percent, of adverse events from a prescription drug or a vaccine are ever
reported.[2] If only 1 percent of all adverse events associated with
Gardasil are being reported to VAERS, there could have been as many as
126,000 acute health problems from the vaccine in less than one year. The
long term neurological or immune system complications are completely
unknown. It is uncertain if any of these vaccinated children will go on to
develop fertility problems, cancer or damage to their genes, all of which
Merck admits in its product insert have not been studied.

John Iskander, from the Center for Disease Controls immunization safety
office has said, "There is absolutely no reason to think that there is
anything in this vaccine that's going to make people more likely to
faint.[3] Despite his assurances, there are ingredients in the vaccine that
can cause recipients to become dizzy and faint.

Histidine, an amino acid, readily converts into another amino acid,
histamine, when it enters the body. When released, histamine causes redness,
swelling, itching and allergic reactions leading to widening of capillaries,
decreased blood pressure people can faint. The vaccine also contains
Polysorbate 80, an agent used in creams, ointments, lotions, and multiple
medical preparations including vitamin oils, and anticancer agents.
Polysorbate 80 is a can cause potentially fatal reactions in including
anaphylaxis, characterized by a sharp drop in blood pressure, hives, and
breathing difficulties people can faint.[4]

Fainting spells after vaccination can have serious consequences. An article
published in the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine (1997),
reviewed the 697 reports of syncope (fainting) that occurred after
vaccination and had been reported to VAERS between 1990 and 1995. More than
97 percent of the events have occurred within 30 minutes of a vaccine,
establishing a causal relationship. Of these, six patients sustained a
serious head injury, including skull fracture, cerebral bleeding and
cerebral contusion. Three of these patients required brain surgery and two
were left with substantial residual neurological deficits at six months to
two years after follow-up.[5] Dizziness and fainting after vaccination is
not something to be taken lightly.

As for the children in Australia, the vaccination program is scheduled to
continue next month. The college is confident that this program of
vaccination is safe to offer to students," says Christopher Dalton, the
school principal. "We will be working with the Department of Human Services
Victoria and the City of Monash Immunization Services in the planning
vaccination program."

The assumption is that illness and dizziness are normal reactions to a
vaccine. The overriding theme is that We've have a vaccine, and we will use
it.

Footnotes:

1. "Vaccine linked to sickness."
2. Braun M. Vaccine adverse event reporting system (VAERS): usefulness and
limitations. John's Hopkins Bloomburg School of Public Health
3. CDC Says Gardasil's Side Effects Minor, Additional Warning Labels
Unnecessary. Feb. 26, 2007
4. Coors, EA. Polysorbate 80 in medical products and nonimmunologic
anaphylactoid reactions. Ann Allergy Asthma Immunol. 2005 Dec;95(6):593-9.
PMID: 16400901
5. Braun MM, et al. Syncope after immunization. Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med
1997;151:255-9.

© 2007 Sherri Tenpenny - All Rights Reserved

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http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/457/31/


 Facts Behind Merck's Mandatory Vaccine Campaign to Help Pay forVioxx     
Sunday, 04 February 2007

American preteen girls have been designated to pay the price by exposing their bodies to risks of harm.

Condoms remain the safest (and cheapest) method for preventing sexually
transmitted diseases.  But the pharmaceutical / biomedical industry is Hell
bent on marketing more profitable invasive methods.

Merck has financed an aggressive lobbying campaign on behalf of its new
Gardasil vaccine for human papilloma virus (HPV), carried out by
professional lobbyists and by Women in Government, an organization of state
legislators.

Women in Government are trying to pass legislation in every state that would
force 11 year old girls to be vaccinated, or be prevented from going to
school.

But Merck went one step further:  on Friday, Texas Republican governor Rick
Perry issued a MANDATORY executive order to force all Texas girls to be
vaccinated with Gardasil, completely bypassing Texas' legislative process,
overriding parental authority, and ignoring the ethical issues raised by a
vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease.  Perry, of course, is a
recipient of Merck largesse.

If one looks beneath the surface, Merck's strong-arm marketing tactics are
really a "Do or Die" effort to finance its huge Vioxx litigation costs.
Thus, the mandatory HPV vaccine campaign is really a campaign to "Help Pay
for Vioxx" losses.

American preteen girls have been designated to pay the price by exposing
their bodies to risks of harm.

Below, Meryl Nass, MD,* whose medical expertise includes vaccine safety,
epidemiology and biological warfare, provides insight into the medical and
ethical concerns--and the unanswered scientific questions about Merck's
Gardasil vaccine.

Among the issues addressed by Dr. Nass:

1. Unlike infectious diseases that spread in schools--like polio and
measles--HPV is only transmitted sexually.  Why, then, is Merck seeking
mandatory vaccine orders?  Is it deliberately to usurp parental rights and
responsibilities?

2. Since boys transfer the HPV virus to girls, why don't boys get
vaccinated? Why are only girls being pushed to take the vaccine?

3. There are over 30 HPV viruses. Of these, 10 may cause cancer. Merck's
vaccine is effective for only 4 of these potentially cancerous viruses.
Therefore, PAP tests are still essential to detect cancer and save lives, as
well as condoms, which remain the safest, most effective method for
preventing HIV transfer and numerous sexually transmitted diseases.

4. The oversell of Gradasil is likely to mislead those vaccinated to think
that they are safe when they are not. This has the potential of increasing
both STDs and cancer.

Other questions remain about the clinical trials:
How many girls participated in pre-licensure clinical trials and for how
long were they followed up?  What is the nature of the adverse event reports
received by the government Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)
since its approval in July 2006 and February 2007?

According to the National Vaccine Information Center, between July 2006 and
January 2007, there have been 82 reports of adverse events filed with VAERS
following receipt of GARDASIL by girls and boys ranging in age from 11 to 27
years. Reaction reports have come from 21 states, including Virginia and the
District of Columbia. All but three of the reports were for adverse events
that occurred within one week of vaccination, and more than 60 percent
occurred within 24 hours of vaccination.

See: National Vaccine Information Center
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=62176

The National Vaccine Information Center urges state legislatures to
investigate the safety and cost of mandating Merck's HPV vaccine--before any
policy is adopted. The Alliance for Human Research Protection joins NVIC in
asking for investigations into the vaccine's safety and cost.

*Dr. Nass is a board member of the Alliance for Human Research Protection.
See her vita at: http://www.anthraxvaccine.org/docs/CV121206.doc


Contact: Vera Hassner Sharav
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Gardasil vaccine:  Facts and Implications

Cervical cancer is caused by changes in the cells of the cervix caused by
human papilloma viruses (HPV).  These viruses can also lead to cancer of the
vagina, vulva, anus, penis and scrotum. [1] The cancer-causing viruses are
sexually transmitted.

At least 50% of sexually active men and women acquire a genital HPV
infection during their lives.  The CDC says that by age 50, at least 80% of
women will have developed a genital HPV infection.

There are over 30 different HPV viruses that are sexually transmitted.
About ten of these have the potential to cause cancer.

The HPV vaccine, Gardasil, contains antigens designed to protect against 4
of the ten dangerous strains of HPV.  Three doses are given over six months
for protection against these four strains only.

It is estimated that these 4 viruses cause 70% of HPV-induced cancers. The
other HPV viruses, not protected by the vaccine, cause 30% of cervical
cancers.

The American Cancer Society estimates that 11,000 cases of cervical cancer
will be diagnosed in women this year, compared to 178,000 new cases of
breast cancer. [2]   The Cancer Society says, "mortality rates for cervical
cancer have declined steadily over the past several decades due to
prevention and early detection as a result of screening."  They also note,
"Importantly, HPV infections are common in healthy women and only rarely
result in cervical cancer" and "fortunately, most cervical precancers
develop slowly, so nearly all cases can be prevented if a woman is screened
regularly."

Because HPV viruses may live on skin around the genital area, condoms are
not 100% effective in prevention.  However, condom use is associated with a
lower rate of cervical cancer.

What about men?  About 1,500 new cases of penile cancer will be diagnosed in
men this year, and 1,900 cases of anal cancer, linked to HPV.

What does all this mean to me?

First, the vaccine is at best 70% effective, so you can still be infected
with HPV viruses that can lead to cervical and other cancers, even after
three doses of this vaccine. You can still get genital warts, but are at
lower risk.  You will still need yearly PAP smears to protect against
cervical cancer.  PAP tests are extremely effectively at preventing cervical
cancer.

Second, you really should be using condoms for all sexual activity to
prevent HIV infection and a number of other sexually transmitted diseases.

Don't get the wrong idea that this vaccine will allow you to safely avoid
the use of condoms.

Why don't boys get this vaccine?  Good question, since they transfer the HPV
virus to girls, and they also can get cancer.  If boys took the vaccine
instead of girls, you could prevent approximately the same number of
cancers.

How safe is the vaccine for me?  Because it is a new vaccine and has only
been used in a few thousand people during clinical trials, the side effect
profile of the vaccine is still not known.

What if I get pregnant after getting Gardasil vaccine?  Clinical trials
showed that women who became pregnant within one month of vaccination had
more birth defects than women who received placebo vaccine and became
pregnant.  After 30 days, this apparent risk disappeared.

What if you were vaccinated, then learned you were pregnant?  It is not
known if this is a problem, but it might be.  Therefore, Merck, the
manufacturer, maintains a pregnancy registry to track the outcomes of
pregnancies during which women were vaccinated: call (800) 986-8999 to
report any Gardasil vaccinations during pregnancy.

Okay, if I still need to use condoms and get yearly PAP smears, what's the
point of getting this vaccine?

* Women who don't get pap smears, who have more partners, or who for
other reasons are at higher risk of cervical cancer may benefit from this
vaccine.
* Women who are monogamous or are not sexually active have a low risk
of cervical cancer.
* Gay men are at higher than average risk of penis and anus cancers
and may desire this vaccine.  It is not known why the vaccine was not
approved for men.

Therefore, you should be able to choose whether to receive the vaccine.
However, if you get yearly PAPs, and practice safe sex, your benefit from
this vaccine is greatly diminished, or nil.

Why are governors and legislatures considering forced Gardasil vaccinations
for eleven-year-old girls?

Cervical cancer is not spread by casual contact.  State governments are not
mandating Gardasil to protect students from infectious diseases like polio
or measles that can spread in schools.  Instead, they are usurping the
parental role of determining what is best for their children's health.

The retail cost of the 3 vaccine doses is $360, which will not be paid by
the lawmakers.  Why not give free PAP smears to all interested women
instead, which would cost about the same amount?

Marketing is the answer.  Merck developed this strategy to sell the largest
amount of vaccine: making every preteen girl get the shots.  Year after
year, the vaccine market would be guaranteed, with Merck collecting
approximately 1 Billion dollars annually from US sales alone.

"At a Wall Street briefing last month, Peter Loescher, president of global
human health at Merck, said he emphasizes "speed, speed, speed" in a product
launch. Already, he noted, 80 percent of cities and states - including
Maryland - have ordered Gardasil to be distributed through Vaccines for
Children. The federally funded program provides free vaccines to doctors who
serve children with little or no insurance."[3]

Merck provides funding to the organization "Women in Government," a
bipartisan group of state legislators, to sponsor its campaign for statewide
vaccine mandates.[4]

Women in Government's work has included enacting legislation to require HPV
vaccine for school entry, obtaining medicaid coverage for HPV testing,
creating cervical cancer task forces at the state level, enacting cervical
cancer prevention legislation, and obtaining compulsory insurance
reimbursement for HPV testing and HPV vaccinations.  Their website has a map
with each state tracked as to how far along it is toward enacting the
desired legislative mandates.

Bypassing the Texas Legislature altogether, the Republican Governor of
Texas, Rick Perry, issued an order Friday February 2, making Texas the first
state to require that schoolgirls get vaccinated against the sexually
transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer.

Why did Merck emphasize speed in this product launch?  They wanted to get
the vaccine mandates in place before the bad publicity started.

The Associated Press reports that one of Merck's three lobbyists in Texas is
Mike Toomey, Perry's former chief of staff. His current chief of staff's
mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state
director for Women in Government.  The governor also received $6,000 from
Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign.

Instead of trying to prevent cancer, it is starting to look more and more
like the HPV vaccine really stands for "Help Pay for Vioxx" - Merck's failed
arthritis pain pill that is costing the company several billion in
settlements for adverse effects and deaths.  Merck's strong-arm tactics for
marketing Gardasil are a "Do or Die" attempt to get the company back on a
secure financial footing.  American preteen girls are to pay the price.

Yet it is not at all clear how long the vaccine will work.  Boosters will
probably be needed after several years.  Will new diseases crop up at higher
rates in those who were vaccinated?

The FDA is requiring Merck to gather more safety information: on autoimmune
conditions, cancer and possible birth defects.[5]  FDA wants to find out how
long protection lasts, and whether non-vaccine strains of HPV will "take
over" from the vaccine strains, in effect nullifying vaccine benefit.

Unless an eleven year old will begin sexual experimentation in the next
couple of years, there is plenty of time to wait and see how this vaccine
pans out, once it has been used in larger populations for longer periods of
time.  Then an informed decision can be made regarding its value for you.

Meryl Nass, MD


References:
1. CDC. http://www.cdc.gov/STD/HPV/STDFact-HPV.htm#Whatis
2. American Cancer Society. Cancer Facts and Figures 2007.20
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/STT/stt_0_2006.asp?sitearea=STT&level=1
3. Laura Smitherman. Drug firm pushes vaccine mandate. Baltimore Sun,
January 29, 2007.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/politics/bal-te.md.cervical29jan29,0,
2725203.story?page=2&coll=bal-mdpolitics-headlines
4. Women in Government's legislative toolkit:
http://www.womeningovernment.org/prevention/legislative_toolkit.asp
5. http://www.fda.gov/cber/approvltr/hpvmer060806L.htm

 

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http://www.newsobserver.com/104/story/537896.html



Merck lobbies for vaccine laws
Money from the drug company is behind efforts to require young girls to receive its new vaccine against cervical cancer
Liz Austin Peterson, The Associated Press

AUSTIN, TEXAS - Merck & Co. is helping bankroll efforts to pass state laws requiring girls as young as 11 or 12 to receive the drug maker's new vaccine against the sexually transmitted cervical-cancer virus.

Some conservatives and parental-rights groups say such a requirement would encourage premarital sex and interfere with the way they raise their children, and they say Merck's push for such laws is underhanded. But the company said its lobbying efforts have been aboveboard.

With at least 18 states debating whether to require Merck's Gardasil vaccine for schoolgirls, Merck has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group of female state legislators.

An official from Merck's vaccine division sits on Women in Government's business council, and many of the bills around the country have been introduced by members of Women in Government.

"Cervical cancer is of particular interest to our members because it represents the first opportunity that we have to actually eliminate a cancer," said Susan Crosby, president of Women in Government.

Gardasil, approved by the federal government in June, protects girls and women against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, that are responsible for most cases of cervical cancer. A government advisory panel has recommended that all girls get the shots at 11 and 12, before they are likely to be sexually active.

But no state has yet to add Gardasil to the list of vaccinations youngsters must have under law to be enrolled in school.

Merck spokeswoman Janet Skidmore would not say how much the company is spending on lobbyists or how much it has donated to Women in Government. Crosby also declined to specify how much the drug company gave.

But Skidmore said: "We disclosed the fact that we provide funding to this organization. We're not in any way trying to obscure that."

The New Jersey drug company, which is building a vaccine plant in Durham, could generate billions in sales if Gardasil -- at $360 for the three-shot regimen -- were made mandatory across the country. Most insurance companies now cover the vaccine, which has been shown to have no serious side effects.

Proposals for mandates have popped up from California to Connecticut since the first piece of legislation was introduced in September in Michigan. Michigan's bill was narrowly defeated last month. Lawmakers said the requirement would intrude on families' privacy, even though, as in most states' proposals, parents could opt out.

Even with such opt-out provisions, mandates take away parents' rights to make medical decisions for their children, said Linda Klepacki of the Colorado evangelical organization Focus on the Family. The group contends the vaccine should be available for parents who want it, but not forced on those who don't.

But Texas Rep. Jessica Farrar said her proposal is aimed at protecting children whose parents are less informed about or less interested in preventive care.

[xxxLinda]

yeah, I have a problem with this topic too.  Either you're gonna get cancer or maybe you won't.

xL

If my mother had taken me to the Doctor at 9 or 11 or 13 or something for the BC pill or a jab for a sexually transmitted illness I would have seriously worried and would most probably have had a screwed up adolescence.  Nowadays you've gotta take your child daughter at the age of 9 to get a vaccine for something you can prevent with a condom? 


or perhaps it's genetic.

I need to get out more

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Judicial Watch Uncovers Three Deaths Relating to HPV Vaccine

Event Reports Obtained from FDA Detail 1,637 Adverse Reactions to Gardasil



(Washington, DC) -- Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released documents obtained from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, detailing 1,637 reports of adverse reactions to the vaccination for human papillomavirus (HPV), Gardasil.  Three deaths were related to the vaccine.  One physician’s assistant reported that a female patient “died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine.”  Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.

As of May 11, 2007, the 1,637 adverse vaccination reactions reported to the FDA via the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) included 371 serious reactions.  Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormities.

Side effects published by Merck & Co. warn the public about potential pain, fever, nausea, dizziness and itching after receiving the vaccine.  Indeed, 77% of the adverse reactions reported are typical side effects to vaccinations.  But other more serious side effects reported include paralysis, Bells Palsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, and seizures.

“The FDA adverse event reports on the HPV vaccine read like a catalog of horrors,” stated Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.  “Any state or local government now beset by Merck’s lobbying campaigns to mandate this HPV vaccine for young girls ought to take a look at these adverse health reports.  It looks as if an unproven vaccine with dangerous side effects is being pushed as a miracle drug.”

Judicial Watch filed its request on May 9, 2007, and received the adverse event reports from the FDA on May 15, 2007.  Judicial Watch has posted the adverse event reports below.

(A recent study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, also questioned the general effectiveness of Gardasil.)


http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-23-2007/0004595032&EDATE


  Deaths as of 5/11/07:

  http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/GardasilVAERSDeaths.pdf


  Adverse Reactions as of 5/11/07:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2007/GardasilVAERSReports.pdf

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[trab]

Forced consumption. Big Big Profits for the Pharma.
In this case, the religious right wingers did something good for once by stopping that vaccine from being implemented. Dont hold your breath waiting for a repeat.


By the way, a Attorney friend told me that the vaccine Pharmacy corp (I forget which) needs money to pay for the Viox settlement...
HPV stands for: Help Pay for Viox

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 this is why I am against ANY vaccines being mandatory.  There is a risk, even if it is small, of death, or damage.  The government should not be able to force something into ones body.  It should be a choice, an INFORMED CHOICE.  Information is not freely given to people.  Dangers of both vaccinating and not vaccinating should be made easily available to people.  Parents are not told that they can get exemptions, that they can chose to vaccinate some and not others, or not at all, or on a different schedule (spread farther apart) or even that there are single, instead of combination, vaccines available.

    Your Body-Your Choice!!    

   

[trab]

    Your Body-Your Choice!!    

   

Unfortunately, in the USA, there is about ZERO respect for the above concept.
Hit your Political reps with letters. It does get response from some of them. They've turned the population into a herd of sheep here.

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Gardasil Reactions and Deaths on the Rise
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/07/24/gardasil-reactions-and-deaths-on-the-rise.aspx

In May 2007, it was reported that over 1,600 adverse reactions,
including three deaths, had been linked to Gardasil, Merck's new
vaccine for human papillomavirus (HPV).

Among those reactions, 371 were classified as serious, and, of the 42
women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side
effects including spontaneous abortion and fetal abnormalities.

It appears those reactions, and deaths, are steadily rising. A review
of the National Vaccine Information Center revealed the following
statistic about this vaccine: 2,207 adverse reactions to Gardasil
have been reported. Among them:
* 5 girls died
* 31 were considered life-threatening
* 1,385 required a visit to the emergency room
* 451 of the girls have not recovered as of July 2007
* 51 of the girls were disabled
Gardasil "may be more dangerous than consumers have been led to
believe," according to one public-interest group, and an editorial in
the New England Journal of Medicine has also raised questions about
the vaccine's effectiveness.

<http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=21696>The Heartland
Institute August 1, 2007

[trab]

I wont let my daughter take this. No Way!

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I wont let my daughter take this. No Way!

  They wanted to make it mandatory for girls in the 6th grade!!

 It should be a choice for the parents to make, not the government.  Or for the girl herself to make when she is old enough and is given ALL THE INFORMATION.

  I think it would be wise for any parents considering this to hold off until more information is in.    Teach your kids about safe sex instead!!!

[trab]

This is all about Big Money for Big Pharma (Like they dont make enough w/ 10,000% markup)

Forced consumption. Be interesting where contributions by the pharma went.

[24KT]

This is all about Big Money for Big Pharma (Like they dont make enough w/ 10,000% markup)

Forced consumption. Be interesting where contributions by the pharma went.

If memory serves me correctly, I think there was a segment in Michael Moore's film 'Sicko' where he breaks down the financial contributions of Big Pharma by senators & congressman.

[trab]

If memory serves me correctly, I think there was a segment in Michael Moore's film 'Sicko' where he breaks down the financial contributions of Big Pharma by senators & congressman.

Be cool to see what ones.

[Dina]

I dont think it should be mandatory untill they have more information, and perhaps a more robust vaccination... that being said, I got the shots myself even thought I am over the reccomended age..I tested negative for the strains of hpv it guards against so my gyn said I could take the vaccination.

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It should NEVER be mandatory.  It is not a health threat to the general public. It should be a parents decision, not the state's, and ultimately it should be the person receiving the vaccines decision to get it or not.   

  Vaccines can be harmful, making ANY vaccine, let alone one that does not pose a  health risk to the general public, mandatory is a violation of oneself.  Injecting a potentially harmful substance into your body should be a choice.

  You could not pay me enough to be a guinea pig for that vaccine.


  Dina - did you give informed consent before getting the vaccine?  Was there full disclosure of deaths and adverse affects disclosed as well as being informed of the lack of effaciacy studies and long term affects being unknown?  I'm curious as to what Dr's are telling people.
 

[Dina]

since I was outside the age group it was for, I had to sign forms etc waiving liability blah blah  to be honest I dod not read everything in detail....

In the past I have had abnormal pap results and had to have a colposcopy.. so it was worth getting the vaccine done.


As far as vaccinations being mandatory.. dont some if them have to be like polio and small pox.. was not the way they eradicated them.. I have no idea.. perhaps you have more research on that..

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since I was outside the age group it was for, I had to sign forms etc waiving liability blah blah  to be honest I dod not read everything in detail....

In the past I have had abnormal pap results and had to have a colposcopy.. so it was worth getting the vaccine done.


As far as vaccinations being mandatory.. dont some if them have to be like polio and small pox.. was not the way they eradicated them.. I have no idea.. perhaps you have more research on that..

I have to question your saying it was worth getting it when you admit you did not read everything, and it doesn't sound like you were told everything?  That is one of the big problems I have with vaccinations, people are only given part of the information, not all of it.  How can someone make an informed decision without all the information, pro and cons? 

Yes, some are mandatory like polio, MMR, ones that could be communicable in a general setting.  You are not going to get HPV from a classmate (or anyone) unless you have sexual contact with them, so it should not be mandatory.   Exemptions for all vaccines are allowed for both religious and personal beliefs in pretty much every state.  Most people are not aware that they can choose to not vaccinate their kids for all or some of the vaccines and they can still go to school.   They just keep adding more vaccines to the "mandatory" requirements and this one should never be on the list. 

 They are not sure if this vaccine, which only vaccinates for a few strains of HPV (and not even all of them that are the known cancer causing strains), will make the other strains easier to contract/turn cancerous, there are so many unknowns with this vaccine. It was rushed through for approval and basically the "studies" are being done now with people who elected to get the vaccine.

[Geo]

you don't have to tell me to stay away from gardasil !

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you don't have to tell me to stay away from gardasil !

One other reason the mandatory requirement was bullshit was it only required females to be vaccinated.  Males can get and pass on HPV yet only females were going to be req'd to get the vaccination?    


  Gardisil was pushed in the aftermath of the Vioxx lawsuits, and if it had been made mandatory they would of recouped all and then some of their losses most likely.  "Interestingly" the Governor that was for mandatory vaccinating in Texas (the start of the campaign to make it mandatory) is a lobbyist for Merck and tried to bypass the state and put that into affect with an "executive order".

 The asshole was shut down with the uproar that followed.  

 

[trab]

The wall street joke is HPV stands for - Help Pay for Vioxx.

Big Pharma, big money, big corruption.

[Dina]

A very good friend of mine is a gynecologist.. not my personal doctor, and he and I talked about it extensively and he reccomended that I get the shots... and offered to give them to me for free... I decided to go to my Dr as it was closer to me

the vaccine only protects against a few strains, the ones that tend to lead to cervical cancer.

My gynecologist actually gave the shots to her two sons ...  said she felt it would help them not pass it on even though they were at risk

I am not saying this is what everyone should do... this is just what I chose to do, and my experience.

[trab]

Dina, I hope you live to 110.

I bet the fear is overdone, any shots/ meds kill a few ppl from reactions.

One thing I will say, is the healthcare workers tend to be "True Believers" who trust the Pharmas.
I'm a little more skeptical.

[Dina]

I think it is about personal choices and making the best decision for you. There are some great drugs and some terrible ones...

not sure I was to be around till 110..lol