Author Topic: IFBB ethical/moral Code Of Conduct? (Read 12182 times)

chaos · « **Reply #100 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:38:05 PM »

the title of this thread in itself is a funny thing.

onlyme · « **Reply #101 on:** May 25, 2007, 06:39:26 PM »

Chic why is Manion the President of the NPC and IFBB. Was there a vote by the members of the IFBB. Or did they use the excuse you use about not being able to get ahold of all of them (except of course when it is membership dues time). When Manion was appointed the President of the NPC the people who voted him in did NOT realize or was told it was a lifetime appointment. Like in most situations as this, elections are set up and then votes are casted by members. But in all these years NO election EVER. Way is that? Why isn't their an election? You know how we do it i SAG. They send out ballots and we vote for who we (the members) want. There has to be a reason. And you do realize that anyone (in the past at least) who wanted to run against Manion was immediately removed from their position in the NPC. Is this practice still used today. Just wondering.

Chick · « **Reply #102 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:04:07 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on May 25, 2007, 06:39:26 PM

Chic why is Manion the President of the NPC and IFBB. Was there a vote by the members of the IFBB. Or did they use the excuse you use about not being able to get ahold of all of them (except of course when it is membership dues time). When Manion was appointed the President of the NPC the people who voted him in did NOT realize or was told it was a lifetime appointment. Like in most situations as this, elections are set up and then votes are casted by members. But in all these years NO election EVER. Way is that? Why isn't their an election? You know how we do it i SAG. They send out ballots and we vote for who we (the members) want. There has to be a reason. And you do realize that anyone (in the past at least) who wanted to run against Manion was immediately removed from their position in the NPC. Is this practice still used today. Just wondering.

Manion wa never appointed to president of the NPC....HE STARTED IT. It's HIS company, genius.

Are you that blinded by stupidity that you just make shit up all the time?

Why would Manion send out ballots to be elected (or not elected) to his own business? It's not a publicly traded company, there are no shares of stock or stockholders.

You sound dumber everyday.

Vince B · « **Reply #103 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:23:58 PM »

We underestimate Bob, he is the IFBB!!

SirTraps · « **Reply #104 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:26:50 PM »

Vince, i cant believe you havent posted a pic of yourself in this thread.

onlyme · « **Reply #105 on:** May 25, 2007, 07:53:12 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 07:04:07 PM

Manion wa never appointed to president of the NPC....HE STARTED IT. It's HIS company, genius.

Are you that blinded by stupidity that you just make shit up all the time?

Why would Manion send out ballots to be elected (or not elected) to his own business? It's not a publicly traded company, there are no shares of stock or stockholders.

You sound dumber everyday.

Dude you obviously didn't call Manion on this one. Manion was elected, unanimously. QUIT trying to sound like you know everything. One of my best friends were flown to Atlanta to cast his vote for Jim. If it was Manions company the why was their a vote. Please answer this smart guy. The people involved wanted Manion as the president at the time cause the person who was going to be appointed could not do it cause of the conflict on interest and he really didn't want the job. I just tried to call my friend but he didn't answer the phone (time difference). But I will try to get the exact story. And does Manion OWN this company. Is he really listed as the owner. I am not sure of this, so need to know. It is a privately owned company or a corporation. Are there not officers i this company. Dude really you shouldn't try to answer questions you have no idea about till you talk to Manion. If his phone is busy or you can't get ahold of him for the answers then go to bed.

Chick · « **Reply #106 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:29:49 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on May 25, 2007, 07:53:12 PM

Dude you obviously didn't call Manion on this one. Manion was elected, unanimously. QUIT trying to sound like you know everything. One of my best friends were flown to Atlanta to cast his vote for Jim. If it was Manions company the why was their a vote. Please answer this smart guy. The people involved wanted Manion as the president at the time cause the person who was going to be appointed could not do it cause of the conflict on interest and he really didn't want the job. I just tried to call my friend but he didn't answer the phone (time difference). But I will try to get the exact story. And does Manion OWN this company. Is he really listed as the owner. I am not sure of this, so need to know. It is a privately owned company or a corporation. Are there not officers i this company. Dude really you shouldn't try to answer questions you have no idea about till you talk to Manion. If his phone is busy or you can't get ahold of him for the answers then go to bed.

I remember going to one of the first meetings with Jim Rockell...this was back in 1981 or so, I was about 14. Manion was the head of the AAU at the time, he and a few others broke off and decided to run their own federation, thus the NPC was born...

Lee_a_priest · « **Reply #107 on:** May 25, 2007, 08:52:20 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 08:29:49 PM

I remember going to one of the first meetings with Jim Rockell...this was back in 1981 or so, I was about 14. Manion was the head of the AAU at the time, he and a few others broke off and decided to run their own federation, thus the NPC was born...

YOU BEEN AROUND JIM AND ROCKELL SINCE THEN...MMMMMMMMMM...IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE NOW......

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #108 on:** May 25, 2007, 09:01:47 PM »

Quote from: Lee_a_priest on May 25, 2007, 08:52:20 PM

YOU BEEN AROUND JIM AND ROCKELL SINCE THEN...MMMMMMMMMM...IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE NOW......

It's no secret Bob is Manion's puppet/mouthpiece/pet chimp.

Chick · « **Reply #109 on:** May 25, 2007, 11:10:10 PM »

Quote from: Lee_a_priest on May 25, 2007, 08:52:20 PM

YOU BEEN AROUND JIM AND ROCKELL SINCE THEN...MMMMMMMMMM...IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE NOW......

The only thing that has fallen into place is is you successfully painting yourself into a corner, and out of the sport.

Good job.

timfogarty · « **Reply #110 on:** May 26, 2007, 01:10:10 AM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 07:04:07 PM

Manion wa never appointed to president of the NPC....HE STARTED IT. It's HIS company, genius.

well, at least now we know it's not really a non profit sports federation.

onlyme · « **Reply #111 on:** May 26, 2007, 01:12:14 AM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 08:29:49 PM

I remember going to one of the first meetings with Jim Rockell...this was back in 1981 or so, I was about 14. Manion was the head of the AAU at the time, he and a few others broke off and decided to run their own federation, thus the NPC was born...

Do you know who the Others were. This is a dumb arguement. All I really wanted to know was why no election

christinafitness · « **Reply #112 on:** May 26, 2007, 07:29:10 AM »

The president of the IFBB is Rafael Santonja. He took over from Ben Weider last October.
Jim Manion is the president of the IFBB Professional league and the NPC (IFBB Amateurs in the US)

Lee_a_priest · « **Reply #113 on:** May 26, 2007, 05:38:33 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 11:10:10 PM

The only thing that has fallen into place is is you successfully painting yourself into a corner, and out of the sport.

Good job.

NO I AM STILL HERE IN IT.....WERE YOU EVER IN IT.......I MEAN REALLY IN IT......YOU HAVE KNOWN THEM SINCE 14...YOU KNOW THAT CHILD MOLESTATION HAS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IF YOU WHISH TO SPEAK UP NOW.......

.......NOW I TRULY UNDERSTAND THE OLD SAYING...........

"TO GET AHAEAD.. YOU MUST GIVE IT "

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #114 on:** May 26, 2007, 05:41:28 PM »

Quote from: Lee_a_priest on May 26, 2007, 05:38:33 PM

NO I AM STILL HERE IN IT.....WERE YOU EVER IN IT.......I MEAN REALLY IN IT......YOU HAVE KNOWN THEM SINCE 14...YOU KNOW THAT CHILD MOLESTATION HAS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IF YOU WHISH TO SPEAK UP NOW....... .......NOW I TRULY UNDERSTAND THE OLD SAYING...........

"TO GET AHAEAD.. YOU MUST GIVE IT "

TELL IT LIKE IT IS !

onlyme · « **Reply #115 on:** May 26, 2007, 11:26:19 PM »

Quote from: Chick on May 25, 2007, 07:04:07 PM

Manion wa never appointed to president of the NPC....HE STARTED IT. It's HIS company, genius.

Are you that blinded by stupidity that you just make shit up all the time?

Why would Manion send out ballots to be elected (or not elected) to his own business? It's not a publicly traded company, there are no shares of stock or stockholders.

You sound dumber everyday.

Just to get things straight, Manion DID NOT start the NPC. Is that why you love him so much. You think he started it. It was a group of guys who wanted a certain person to actually be the president but he couldn't and they decided to elect Manion. One of my closet friends was flown to Atlanta to cast a vote for Manion. I asked and called all three of the guys I know who were involved in the very first meeting and the election of Manion and ALL of them had no idea it was going this long (him acting as president). I ended up that Manion got a few loyal stooges to make sure that he stayed in so that they always had the control. If anyone challenged Manion they would find themselves out of the NPC. His accountant who we know, probably has made the NPC now Manions company. Have no idea, but if anyone could he can. So basically it might be his company now, which would explain allot of the shit he does. Does it sck CHic to be controlled by Manion, just a question. I would hate having someone like him having 100% control over what I did day in and day out.

christinafitness · « **Reply #116 on:** May 27, 2007, 05:02:19 PM »

What is the official definition of a sports federation??

onlyme · « **Reply #117 on:** May 27, 2007, 05:58:05 PM »

I just noticed someone put IFBB, moral and ethical in the same sentence. Is that legal. If so it should'nt be. Shame on you.. That like putting Sean Ray in the same sentence with words like man, honest, integrity, honor, truthful and Christian. Unless of course you put no or non in front of the words

Vince B · « **Reply #118 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:11:00 PM »

That sneaky Sean Rey is trying to depict Only me as a bloke wrapped in bed sheets eating doughnuts all day! Any truth to that, Keith?

Watching Bob and Sean discuss morals is quite humourous. Bob, being the IFBB, knows all about following rules, however.

onlyme · « **Reply #119 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:13:49 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on May 27, 2007, 06:11:00 PM

That sneaky Sean Rey is trying to depict Only me as a bloke wrapped in bed sheets eating doughnuts all day! Any truth to that, Keith?

Watching Bob and Sean discuss morals is quite humourous. Bob, being the IFBB, knows all about following rules, however.

I don't eat donuts anymore. I like bananas and strawberries.

texasbubba · « **Reply #120 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:21:15 PM »

Quote from: onlyme on May 27, 2007, 06:13:49 PM

I don't eat donuts anymore. I like bananas and strawberries.

We aren't talking about Keith weight any longer...it has no place here!

Vince B · « **Reply #121 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:24:59 PM »

Well, Keith was in hospital a few months ago so I hope he is mobile and better. Trust Sean to put crap on someone because of health issues. Keith doesn't need anyone to support him because he does just fine on his own. Sean needs all manner of characters to defend his sorry ass.

texasbubba · « **Reply #122 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:26:30 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on May 27, 2007, 06:24:59 PM

Well, Keith was in hospital a few months ago so I hope he is mobile and better. Trust Sean to put crap on someone because of health issues. Keith doesn't need anyone to support him because he does just fine on his own. Sean needs all manner of characters to defend his sorry ass.

Why do you find it necessary to judge people? Shawn has been a good friend to me and my family for years, so we have a difference of opinion. Why hate?

Disgusted · « **Reply #123 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:27:32 PM »

Quote from: christinafitness on May 26, 2007, 07:29:10 AM

The president of the IFBB is Rafael Santonja. He took over from Ben Weider last October.
Jim Manion is the president of the IFBB Professional league and the NPC (IFBB Amateurs in the US)

There is no such thing as the "IFBB Amateurs".

Chick · « **Reply #124 on:** May 27, 2007, 06:30:13 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on May 27, 2007, 06:27:32 PM

There is no such thing as the "IFBB Amateurs".

Forget it Jim...she doesnt get it.