IFBB ethical/moral Code Of Conduct?

[Vince B]

While we are talking about unethical behaviour have a look at the crap Sean posted about Milos. Talk about behaving in a way that brings disrepute to the IFBB. What Sean did was despicable. He is a certified rat because of what he did to others re the DEA. It is all on the record here and he had ample time to defend himself. Oh, he tried but failed miserably.

[texasbubba]

While we are talking about unethical behaviour have a look at the crap Sean posted about Milos. Talk about behaving in a way that brings disrepute to the IFBB. What Sean did was despicable. He is a certified rat because of what he did to others re the DEA. It is all on the record here and he had ample time to defend himself. Oh, he tried but failed miserably.

You live across the pond, what proof other than the BS you get here do you have that he ratted anyone out?  He's not listed on whoarat.com.

[Disgusted]

You live across the pond, what proof other than the BS you get here do you have that he ratted anyone out?  He's not listed on whoarat.com.

Other than Sean (you) admitting that he sat down with the DEA and served them iced tea and talked about Milos, other than that I guess we have no proof. 

[Chick]

Noooooo..let him ramble on, Bubba....please, tell us all what went down with Shawn and the DEA, Vince....

Please, share some of your first hand knowledge..I'm begging you.

[Vince B]

I have no first hand knowledge of the Sean-Milos feud. Those two posted about happened and Milos detailed what he believed happened. I rather doubt Sean is innocent of all charges. He is a good talker, however, much like Bob and Texasboof. Those guys can bullshit all day long!

[Chick]

I have no first hand knowledge of the Sean-Milos feud. Those two posted about happened and Milos detailed what he believed happened. I rather doubt Sean is innocent of all charges. He is a good talker, however, much like Bob and Texasboof. Those guys can bullshit all day long!

"I have no first hand knowledge " should be your middle name...yet, somehow, you're able to make detailed accounts of what goes on, who said what, who is right and who is wrong....face it, you form your opinions based on complete heresay on the internet.

Shawn has admitted to talking to the DEA...SO WHAT? If he had nothing to say, it makes no difference....they also talked to 13 other athletes and people in the industry. Milos has said from day one that he is innocent of all charges and has never delt steroids....I beleive him.

That being said, if he's done nothing wrong, then there is nothing Shawn could have said to implicate him.

As usual..STFU about things you dont have a clue about. You make yourself look like a damn fool.

[chaos]

"I have no first hand knowledge " should be your middle name...yet, somehow, you're able to make detailed accounts of what goes on, who said what, who is right and who is wrong....face it, you form your opinions based on complete heresay on the internet.

Shawn has admitted to talking to the DEA...SO WHAT? If he had nothing to say, it makes no difference....they also talked to 13 other athletes and people in the industry. Milos has said from day one that he is innocent of all charges and has never delt steroids....I beleive him.

That being said, if he's done nothing wrong, then there is nothing Shawn could have said to implicate him.
As usual..STFU about things you dont have a clue about. You make yourself look like a damn fool.

you've heard of a lie before haven't you?
I know, it's illegal to lie to the authorities, but Sean isn't exactly Mr. Innocent himself, ya dig?

[Vince B]

That will be the day when Bob decides on what is moral and ethical behaviour on the net!

Sean is a rat. A certified one, too. Bob, is living proof of how oblivious stooges can be.

[onlyme]

you've heard of a lie before haven't you?
I know, it's illegal to lie to the authorities, but Sean isn't exactly Mr. Innocent himself, ya dig?

Exactly, he sure didn't come forward when the someone who gave him life was in trouble (and thats the worse).  So yes Sean is capable of anything to save his own ass or make it look better.

[Chick]

you've heard of a lie before haven't you?
I know, it's illegal to lie to the authorities, but Sean isn't exactly Mr. Innocent himself, ya dig?

Lie?? For what?

He never saw Milos dealing drugs.....has said so himself. Milos has said he's never dealed....Shawn was retired and certainly in no danger of being busted for anything...there was nothing to lie about.

What about the other 13 people that were questioned, including Titus?

Vince.....STFU.

[Vince B]

Bob, don't let me get under your skin. Stop posting in an ethics thread that you know absolutely zero about.

[chaos]

Lie?? For what?

He never saw Milos dealing drugs.....has said so himself. Milos has said he's never dealed....Shawn was retired and certainly in no danger of being busted for anything...there was nothing to lie about.

What about the other 13 people that were questioned, including Titus?

Vince.....STFU.

ha Titus had his own issues then and now. Personal vendetta's can be dangerous and very self involving Bob.

Did you and Milos get a chance to talk at the show this weekend?

[Chick]

ha Titus had his own issues then and now. Personal vendetta's can be dangerous and very self involving Bob.

Did you and Milos get a chance to talk at the show this weekend?

We did, actually.....nothing was accomplished.

[chaos]

We did, actually.....nothing was accomplished.

haha, you refuse to listen did you?

oh well, I guess,if it's change you want, you have to fight for it.

[Chick]

haha, you refuse to listen did you?

oh well, I guess,if it's change you want, you have to fight for it.

We listened to each other...we just have different philosophies on how to run the ship. Bottom line is, I'm the captain right now, and I'll run it the way I see fit...not the way Milos would like it run. If he wants my position, he can run for it...all the power to him.

[chaos]

We listened to each other...we just have different philosophies on how to run the ship. Bottom line is, I'm the captain right now, and I'll run it the way I see fit...not the way Milos would like it run. If he wants my position, he can run for it...all the power to him.

cool, still the mutual respect for each others opinion?

[Chick]

cool, still the mutual respect for each others opinion?

We have respect for one another...We both have the best interests of bodybuilding and the bodybuilders when it comes to improving the sport. There is no question we both have a passion for professional bb.

[chaos]

We have respect for one another...We both have the best interests of bodybuilding and the bodybuilders when it comes to improving the sport. There is no question we both have a passion for professional bb.

never doubted your passion, Chick.

[Vince B]

Chick is doing the best he can on the 4 cylinders he was born with. It is amusing that he describes himself as the captain when he is but a foot soldier. Guess all that 'power' has gone to his head. Milos has a philosophy and lives by it. Bob has .....well, IFBBitis.

[Chick]

Chick is doing the best he can on the 4 cylinders he was born with. It is amusing that he describes himself as the captain when he is but a foot soldier. Guess all that 'power' has gone to his head. Milos has a philosophy and lives by it. Bob has .....well, IFBBitis.

and you have cellulitis...STFU goof.

[Vince B]

Nice try, Bob. You make a lot of noise but not many pay the slightest attention to you.

Do you honestly think anyone here needs to have the rules interpreted for them? Why on earth you think you are important re the IFBB is a mystery. You are the IFBB. Hook, line, and sinker!!

[Chick]

Nice try, Bob. You make a lot of noise but not many pay the slightest attention to you.

Do you honestly think anyone here needs to have the rules interpreted for them? Why on earth you think you are important re the IFBB is a mystery. You are the IFBB. Hook, line, and sinker!!

I think ou got it backwards old man....no one pays atention to YOU. You talk like you know whats going on...you dont. You're stuck in 1972...You have no input, no inside track, no idea what goes on in the meetings, who makes what decisions...NOTHING.

I am involved in every aspect of pro bb, while you think you've invented the wheel when you make a leg extension machine recline 45 degrees...congratulation s...they've only been around for 25 years.

Way to go Edison...!

You continue to show your ignorance with every post...

[Vince B]

Bob, you are the limited guy here. You are debating with a philosopher and naturally you descend to personal attack because you are devoid of sensible arguments. My comments are descriptive and I hope are accurate about you.

So what if you are in with the IFBB? Big deal. You might get some sympathy from the beginners around here but you aren't fooling the older guys. You lost your integrity when you sold your soul to the IFBB. We understand. Your wife is pleased that you are making money and still manage to built stuff at home and babysit your daughter. You sound like a regular guy but are over your head on the internet.

Come to think of it, you remind me of that guy who stayed at my place with his wife, Bev. Good old "Don't Bother!" Steve.

[Atlantic]

We see that the IFBB is getting guys from other federations and then threatening them that if they go to another federation they will be suspended.  Adhering to the rules is one thing but with this kind of action more pros will make the switch and if it didn’t work they will apologies or get an influence to get back in the IFBB.  So if that is the case why have the rule on not going to other federation in the fist place. 

Just to name a few.  These are some of the relevant case

Eryk Bui: another Musclemania to NPC and an IFBB pro now

Melvin Anthony: another Musclemania to NPC and an IFBB pro now

Dennis James: NABBA, NPC and now an IFBB pro.

Toney Freeman:  AAU, NPC and now an IFBB pro.

Bob Cicherillo: AAU, NPC and now IFBB pro and Athletes rep.

Hasan Saqa:   won the NABBA Mr. Universe then did the Asian Games – IFBB with influence of his local federation.

Flex Lewis: won the Mr Universe - NABBA, Junior then did the British Championships - IFBB, with influence of the EBBF

Sami Hadad: did the PDI NOC now will do the world Championship-IFBB (after apologizing from Paul Chua when he was in Dubai)

Lee Priest: can get back anytime if he stops doing the PDI shows and apologies

Stan McQuay:  after doing the Musclemania for four years he went to the NPC and now he is a pro in the IFBB


Paul L.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=150992.0

what about this ??

[Chick]

Bob, you are the limited guy here. You are debating with a philosopher

Who doesn't know what he's talking about.


 and naturally you descend to personal attack because you are devoid of sensible argments. My comments are descriptive and I hope are accurate about you.

"You hope" just about cuts it...your WRONG on just about everything you say. YOU are the one without sensible argument, as you get your info from 3rd party/ internet ramblings.....I'm the one in the meetings and making decisions.

So what if you are in with the IFBB? Big deal. You might get some sympathy from the beginners around here but you aren't fooling the older guys. You lost your integrity when you sold your soul to the IFBB.

Feel free to explain how I "sold my soul"....


We understand. Your wife is pleased that you are making money and still manage to built stuff at home and babysit your daughter. You sould like a regular guy but are over your head on the internet.

Come to think of it, you remind me of that guy who stayed at my place with his wife, Bev. Good old "Don't Bother!" Steve.