Better or worse?: Branch Warren

[BayGBM]

2001 (I think) vs. 2006

[adipo8]

The future for Dennis Wolfe -TRUE STORY

[Captain Slin]

hey branch had to do what he had to do to start winning. he needed more condition and a  lil more size and balance. the best way to do that now a day is throw gh/more gh in the mix.

most competitors face this one day and have to do it. not judging fault.. the judging is right. its just everyone has to go through it to achieve that level and then they push themselves to take it further until they dont look good/as good anymore. thats just the way it goes and it should go that way.

when ur times up its up, if you dont look good n e mroe you dont look good. in order to look phenomenal at one point your going to have to see how far it can go and you will take it too far mroe often thn not because you have no way of knowing if ur going to look better or worse. then when you do look worse, you cant just stop, because you need the gh for conditioning. you arent going to win any pro shows without it most likely.

[affy]

http://forum.bodybuildingpro.com/showthread.php?t=976

Keep in mind that Branch was under Tom Prince's guidance for diuretics use for this show and wanted to go to the hospital but the idiot who was in the hotel with him wouldn't let him go as Branch lay cramping on the floor in severe pain:

jesus...thats the thickest chest i've seen since arnold



he looked so much better back in 99

[mitchyboy]

Damn. He looks so much older and his pecs are getting smaller

[slaveboy1980]

Damn. He looks so much older and his pecs are getting smaller

he def looks worse nowdays! but his pecs arent getting smaller...its just an illusion as his proportions have changed.

[WOOO]

much better.. he is getting muscle maturity IMO... he looks denser all over

[The Coach]

much better.. he is getting muscle maturity IMO... he looks denser all over

He look hard but smooth, lost his separation, detail and symmetry, back looks even worse.

[Dballn247]

He look hard but smooth, lost his separation, detail and symmetry, back looks even worse.

The GH and the IGF are not what is ruining physiques.  It can actually make you really, really lean.  Throw slin into the cocktail and you've got gut.

On a serious note, Insulin if used correctly can add good size and not give you a distended gut.  Like everything else the key is moderation, which is something that almost every pro seems to be lacking these days.  Slin makes getting big affordable, you can get sick gains using slin with half the amounts of Roids that you would normally use.

[The Coach]

The GH and the IGF are not what is ruining physiques.  It can actually make you really, really lean.  Throw slin into the cocktail and you've got gut.

On a serious note, Insulin if used correctly can add good size and not give you a distended gut.  Like everything else the key is moderation, which is something that almost every pro seems to be lacking these days.  Slin makes getting big affordable, you can get sick gains using slin with half the amounts of Roids that you would normally use.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I know it's not the GH and IGF-1, it's 100% insulin, I've said it before, insulin has ruined bodybuilding, Milos and I had this discussion on the phone about a month ago.

[gh15]

its abuse of igf and insulin,,growth at 15units a day will not do you what 100-200mcg a day of igf will,,200mcg of igf a day = 30 units growth a day taken as straight igf! that grows everything and that creates kamalis and branches to a lesser degree since branch has better genetic response to begin with

but you get the idea behind it all,,slin and igf = big guts,,all the rest = smaller guts or no guts

branch of 2000 was still on everything in the aas department fully loaded,,  but the use of slin gh and igf and diff oils was at alower level.. it has nothing to do with training or food by the way

[Stavios]

GH15, I have never seen someone actually get results from IGF-1 but from GH they change like crazy
they get bigger, rounder and super veiny on GH
while on IGF-1 they look the same

speak on this

[YoungBlood]

Milos and I had this discussion on the phone about a month ago.

How much did it cost you?
Sometimes...just sometimes, to be a fly on the wall at Koleseum....

[gh15]

because they didnt have enough money to go with gropep and insted went through the yellow chinese ,,ausralian = big chinease = small

more serious now,,the mostly used fake shit,,igf3 does what gh does in 1/3 the time if not faster,,inaddition to make you hold less water,,its a matter of continues use with both and a matter of preference,,i think gh is the way to go but many fella pros think igf3 is the way to go,,i prefer to let the body do the change from gh to igf in liver rather than play with such a crazy molocule such as igf which is less stable than gh,,

never the less they most likley used fake since igf grows everything and grows it LEAN while with time add you a nice big ole gut since the bello grows too same as everything else including parts of the head and face and no im not joking

[Stavios]

why is GH so fucking expensive in Canada compared to the US ?

it's like 600-700$ a box around here and you mofos in the USA pay like half if not less

[affy]

because they didnt have enough money to go with gropep and insted went through the yellow chinese ,,ausralian = big chinease = small

more serious now,,the mostly used fake shit,,igf3 does what gh does in 1/3 the time if not faster,,inaddition to make you hold less water,,its a matter of continues use with both and a matter of preference,,i think gh is the way to go but many fella pros think igf3 is the way to go,,i prefer to let the body do the change from gh to igf in liver rather than play with such a crazy molocule such as igf which is less stable than gh,,

never the less they most likley used fake since igf grows everything and grows it LEAN while with time add you a nice big ole gut since the bello grows too same as everything else including parts of the head and face and no im not joking

that would explain don longs big ass head

[Stavios]

that would explain don longs big ass head

I think Don is a good looking dude

[Captain Slin]

that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. insulin DOES NOT cause a distended gut.
I dont know where that rumor started but its 100% bullshit. It is ALL GH and IGF that gives the current look besides the mass becase you get that when combined with insulin.

The GH and IGF is the cause of the big guts and the look where they dont have s much seperation. They are VERY lean, as lean as they can be, but the GH makes the skin thicker and thats why you can not see as much detail. For people who already have thick skin.. eg mostly white skinned people, it makes it even worse.

[Stavios]

that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. insulin DOES NOT cause a distended gut.
I dont know where that rumor started but its 100% bullshit. It is ALL GH and IGF that gives the current look besides the mass becase you get that when combined with insulin.

The GH and IGF is the cause of the big guts and the look where they dont have s much seperation. They are VERY lean, as lean as they can be, but the GH makes the skin thicker and thats why you can not see as much detail. For people who already have thick skin.. eg mostly white skinned people, it makes it even worse.

most people I know who use a lot of GH seems to have paper thin skin all year long with crazy veins comming out of everywhere

there arms looks like 2 big fat veiny cocks

someone can quote this for the gayest post of the year

[Captain Slin]

most people I know who use a lot of GH seems to have paper thin skin all year long with crazy veins comming out of everywhere

there arms looks like 2 big fat veiny cocks

someone can quote this for the gayest post of the year

at first they are going to be insane looking. But long time GH use will blur out definitino because of skin thickness.

i knew a guy on GH, amauter but huge super heavyweight, he looked more lean as a natural than he did on GH because he took so much his skin got too thick. at one point when he started he was pretty good but after that he never got back in shape.

Why do you think Jay cutler is 3% bodyfat with no veins on his entire body? dont you think there is a connection??? if jay wasnt blessed with such a well structured mid section his gut would be huge looking too.

[Stavios]

at first they are going to be insane looking. But long time GH use will blur out definitino because of skin thickness.

i knew a guy on GH, amauter but huge super heavyweight, he looked more lean as a natural than he did on GH because he took so much his skin got too thick. at one point when he started he was pretty good but after that he never got back in shape.

Why do you think Jay cutler is 3% bodyfat with no veins on his entire body? dont you think there is a connection??? if jay wasnt blessed with such a well structured mid section his gut would be huge looking too.

you look like you know your shit my man ! 

[wylllis100]

If you put branch before he turned pro on stage with branch today then branch today would smoke the old version.

Thats what its all about.  In terms of bodybuilding competition he has gotten better.  He is more dense (much more), bigger and better balanced now.

[affy]

I think Don is a good looking dude

my bad...did i saw don long?

hahaha i meant wong hong...the asian guy with the cartoon like body

jesus his head is huge

[slaveboy1980]

because they didnt have enough money to go with gropep and insted went through the yellow chinese ,,ausralian = big chinease = small

more serious now,,the mostly used fake shit,,igf3 does what gh does in 1/3 the time if not faster,,inaddition to make you hold less water,,its a matter of continues use with both and a matter of preference,,i think gh is the way to go but many fella pros think igf3 is the way to go,,i prefer to let the body do the change from gh to igf in liver rather than play with such a crazy molocule such as igf which is less stable than gh,,

never the less they most likley used fake since igf grows everything and grows it LEAN while with time add you a nice big ole gut since the bello grows too same as everything else including parts of the head and face and no im not joking

the guys who use insulin seem to have problems getting ripped and get a thick skinned look (atleast after a couple of years of use) but the thick skin is probably from gh.

[slaveboy1980]

most people I know who use a lot of GH seems to have paper thin skin all year long with crazy veins comming out of everywhere

there arms looks like 2 big fat veiny cocks

someone can quote this for the gayest post of the year

it seems to be a case of dosage and how long you use the stuff...first it looks great but after prolonged heavy use of gh..you start looking like shit because the thick skin effect...and the gut growth...add insulin to the mix which makes it even harder to get ripped.

not to forget the igf which does the same things as gh...

+lots off food with stretches the belly+heavy squats or legpresses which makes abs grow because the stabilize the heavy weight

thats why i stay natural, no need to worry about all that shit.