Dems come up short on promise

[militarymuscle69]

Before the election Hillary said "if you are tired of high gas prices, vote democrat" When they took over in January gas was in the $2.20s, it has risen to the $3.20s. In her defense maybe she didn't realize that 3 was higher than 2.

[240 is Back]

Before the election Hillary said "if you are tired of high gas prices, vote democrat" When they took over in January gas was in the $2.20s, it has risen to the $3.20s. In her defense maybe she didn't realize that 3 was higher than 2.

Of course, I'm betting you can't show us how the dems have in any way caused gas prices to raise.

Can you?

[militarymuscle69]

Of course, I'm betting you can't show us how the dems have in any way caused gas prices to raise.

Can you?

So who do we blame? hmmm let me guess....Great comeback by the way, straight out of the Democrat handbook. Don't provide answers, just turn around the subject.

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

So who do we blame? hmmm let me guess

Could it be the highly profitable American oil companies?  I wonder if there's anyone at the upper levels of the government that have ties to the oil industry. 

[egj13]

Could it be the highly profitable American oil companies?  I wonder if there's anyone at the upper levels of the government that have ties to the oil industry. 

I believe that if the congress (bi partisan) wanted to do something about the fuel prices they could. I haven't seen anything from either party proposed that would help with the price. Isn't it something miniscule like $.08 per gallon that the Oil companies get and the rest is taxes/station owners? I could see if Bush had vetoed a bill helping with the oil companies but I don't think your take on things has any merit.

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

Check the quarterly profits over the past year for the oil companies.  You think gas station owners are making a higher percentage profit?

[Camel Jockey]

Before the election Hillary said "if you are tired of high gas prices, vote democrat" When they took over in January gas was in the $2.20s, it has risen to the $3.20s. In her defense maybe she didn't realize that 3 was higher than 2.

Republicans and Bush lowered gas prices around november to get votes and then stopped caring after the election.

[militarymuscle69]

Republicans and Bush lowered gas prices around november to get votes and then stopped caring after the election.

Oh tha's right, a conspiricy theory...yeah I remember seeing news about the bill they passed to lower them...oh wait, that didn't happen? If it is so easy why don't the Dems even make a proposal? Because they are spineless and don't give a shit about us, they will take the extra taxes we pay and give more handouts.

[Camel Jockey]

Oh tha's right, a conspiricy theory...yeah I remember seeing news about the bill they passed to lower them...oh wait, that didn't happen? If it is so easy why don't the Dems even make a proposal? Because they are spineless and don't give a shit about us, they will take the extra taxes we pay and give more handouts.

Bush called up the Saudis and asked for a favor. When a nation produces a third of the world's supply, then they can easily effect prices by pumping more or less.

[militarymuscle69]

Check the quarterly profits over the past year for the oil companies.  You think gas station owners are making a higher percentage profit?

really idiot:

A multitude of factors can affect an individual oil company's profit on gasoline sales. However, data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) indicates that when the average price of unleaded regular peaked at about $3 a gallon in the middle of 2006, major companies were making a profit of about 10 cents a gallon on their U.S. refining and marketing operations. Profitability factors include the efficiency of the firm's refining, distribution and marketing system, as well as its source of raw material. In times of rising oil prices, companies that own and produce a considerable portion of the crude oil used in their refineries may benefit more than other companies that must purchase most or all of their supplies on the open market.

Sounds like you don't know that the fvck you are talking about....so if they make 10 cents and the station makes less than that, the government makes $3 on each gallon? hmmm maybe they could fix the problem

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

Because they are spineless and don't give a shit about us, they will take the extra taxes we pay and give more handouts.

If you knew anything about government handouts, you would know that the Republican party's policy has been to give handouts to corporations at a level that social programs could never expect to receive in a socialist system.

[240 is Back]

military69,

you missed the thread about the treasury secretary's actions - what was that fella's name - he joined, made changes, and caused the drop in prices, albeit temporary.

someone have that link?

Also, anyone else noticed how egj13, who was here 24/7, has disappeared since mm69 returned?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[egj13]

military69,

you missed the thread about the treasury secretary's actions - what was that fella's name - he joined, made changes, and caused the drop in prices, albeit temporary.

someone have that link?

Also, anyone else noticed how egj13, who was here 24/7, has disappeared since mm69 returned?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Here we go, a guy goes out to earn a paycheck and use your tax dollars in a good way and what do I get?

We had a phase 1 here and I had to cover as NCOIC of weights and measures. I always used to be jealous of what I thought was an easy job! I would have much rather been on here, but duty called

[Laughing Sam's Dice]

really idiot:

A multitude of factors can affect an individual oil company's profit on gasoline sales. However, data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) indicates that when the average price of unleaded regular peaked at about $3 a gallon in the middle of 2006, major companies were making a profit of about 10 cents a gallon on their U.S. refining and marketing operations. Profitability factors include the efficiency of the firm's refining, distribution and marketing system, as well as its source of raw material. In times of rising oil prices, companies that own and produce a considerable portion of the crude oil used in their refineries may benefit more than other companies that must purchase most or all of their supplies on the open market.

Sounds like you don't know that the fvck you are talking about....so if they make 10 cents and the station makes less than that, the government makes $3 on each gallon? hmmm maybe they could fix the problem

A military guy defending soaring oil company profits.  They should give you a promotion!  The U.S. military is killing Iraqis for oil company profits.

[The Enigma]

Republicans and Bush lowered gas prices around november to get votes and then stopped caring after the election.

Henry Paulson had Goldman Saks sell 75% of their unleaded gasoline holdings.......all other trading firms on WS follow the leader (Goldman) This resulted in the temp. decrease in gas prices prior to the election.

That info comes straight from the floor on the NYSE. 

[240 is Back]

Henry Paulson had Goldman Saks sell 75% of their unleaded gasoline holdings.......all other trading firms on WS follow the leader (Goldman) This resulted in the temp. decrease in gas prices prior to the election.

That info comes straight from the floor on the NYSE. 

military muscle69, please do one of two things:

1) Tell us why Enigma is wrong.
2) Savor Enigma's taint.


Thank you.

[Al-Gebra]

military muscle69, please do one of two things:

1) Tell us why Enigma is wrong.
2) Savor Enigma's taint.


Thank you.

what's the word on the street, mr. douche?

P.S. tell your enigmatic buddy he'd sound like he knew what he was talking about if he could spell goldman sachs.

[240 is Back]

P.S. tell your enigmatic buddy he'd sound like he knew what he was talking about if he actually knew how to spell goldman sachs.

okay, he spelled it wrong.

Is he wrong about how gas prices were lowered right before the election?

We can agree he's a shitty speller when it comes to company names.  Awesome.

is he wrong tho?

[Al-Gebra]

okay, he spelled it wrong.

Is he wrong about how gas prices were lowered right before the election?

We can agree he's a shitty speller when it comes to company names.  Awesome.

is he wrong tho?

your repetitiveness is making you sound a little shrill tonight, darling.  everything ok?

p.s. are you mistaking me for someone who actually gives a damn about politics?

[240 is Back]

your repetitiveness is making you sound a little shrill tonight, darling.  everything ok?

ah yes.  I feel great.  I was curious about the gas price thing.  The NYSE showed that yes, the white house did manipulate prices right before the election.  I thought it was just a commonly known fact how they manipulated sales for the shortterm drop, timed perfectly.  mm69 started a thread about it should address that point.

p.s. are you mistaking me for someone who actually gives a damn about politics?

Why are you on the politics board?

[Al-Gebra]

Why are you on the politics board?

b/c you're here.

[240 is Back]

b/c you're here.

weird.

[Al-Gebra]

is it, really? you've got to admit you're something of a charismatic feller.

all right, i'm going to bed. just came down to fuck around a little . . .  "the Enigma" caught my eye first

 . . . perhaps you can tell me what inadequacy leads a feller to give himself that handle?

wonder if he walks around IRL introducing himself as an  "international man of mystery."

[240 is Back]

enigma =  former far right bush supporter who went to iraq as a medic, saw the horrors, learned that it's all about oil and 911 was probably allowed to happen, and decided to become very anti-war.

[Al-Gebra]

enigma =  former far right bush supporter who went to iraq as a medic, saw the horrors, learned that it's all about oil and 911 was probably allowed to happen, and decided to become very anti-war.

ah, so the enigma is how such a supposedly knowledgeable person came to be so naive (as to think iraq wasn't about oil) in the first place