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Golds Gym Venice - Arnold Disowning It?
« on: May 25, 2007, 02:02:05 PM »
For those that may not know....over the last two days...Gold's venice has been removing all of the images of ARNOLD....

First they tore down the Muscle Beach mural...then they tore down the "Mecca Of Bodybuilding" mural that contained pictures of Arnold, Haney, Lenda Murray, Corey Everson, and Dorain Yates. They also took down a similer picture that was hanging upstairs near the posing room.

I asked the front desk about this, and they told me that Arnold owns the rights to any of his pictures, and that he doesnt want them in Gold's. They also told me that he would be coming down in a few days for a "meeting," (whatever that means).

If anyone else knows more about this, (maybe Chick and offer some insight), I would love to hear about it.

You know its a sad day in bodybuilding when Arnold no longer wants to be assicoated with Gold's.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2007, 02:12:02 PM »
Interesting....


I was also suprised to see Arnolds Column back in the lates Flex, after that major clusterfuck years ago.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2007, 02:23:21 PM »
Interesting.  After hearing Arnolds speech at the Arnold or Olympia recently (within the last couple years) I was glad to see he embraced the thing that gave him the opportunity's he's had. 

Now I read this and think it would really be too bad if, at this stage of his life, he turned his back on bodybuilding....That aint being true to your self.

However, I also think it could be related to the recent Venice Beach bodybuilding show problems with the old timer.

If so, and this is a show of support for Arnolds old friend, then I applaud him.  It would show that he really is 100% true to himself and the thing that gave him the opportunity's, bodybuilding.

Like I said in the Venice Beach BB show thread, I would not support the show either if I were a part of that Venice community and if what we read is true I don't think any BB's should.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2007, 02:27:18 PM »
I dont think Arnold's column ever left, but his finanical intrest in Ami/Weider had to be cut.

In any event it was depressing to see those mural's get taken down. Hopefully they replace it with another bodybuilding related picture. They also took down all the Mr. America pictures, (although they may have done it just to make room to work...for all I know they might be putting them back up.)

I just hope this isnt the begining of Gold's management attempt to distance themselves from bodybuilding.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2007, 02:30:09 PM »
Arnold disowned Golds many years ago when Joe Gold started the World Gym franchise, so this comes as no surprise.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2007, 02:34:13 PM »

Yes...I thought about Joe Gold and World's....but you would think that he would have had his pictures pulled a long time ago. Also all of the pictures are taken from his Gold's/Venice era....they are part of the rich history that is Gold's/Venice.....and its a shame if he pulls the plug.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2007, 02:36:41 PM »
Yes...I thought about Joe Gold and World's....but you would think that he would have had his pictures pulled a long time ago. Also all of the pictures are taken from his Gold's/Venice era....they are part of the rich history that is Gold's/Venice.....and its a shame if he pulls the plug.

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It is a shame the pics have come down..its not like he's losing any money by them being up.. I wonder what repercussions this might make across all gyms who carry Arnold's pics?

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2007, 02:39:51 PM »
It is a shame the pics have come down..its not like he's losing any money by them being up.. I wonder what repercussions this might make across all gyms who carry Arnold's pics?

I think he has simply become disgusted the way Golds has turned out to be the fag gym it is now..

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2007, 02:46:21 PM »

Ugh...I hope this isnt the start of a trend....I will say this though...if they continue to take down pictures and piss on bodybuilding. I will simply jump ship and start training at Worlds/Marina Del Ray. Training at Gold's is depressing at times, (when one looks around and sees all the clowns that hang out there now), but even then...there is still a sense of history that premeates the place. I think they could toss out every picture/bodybuilding refrence in the building, and the atosphere will still remain. There is just something special about the place.

Also there are still serious bodybuilders/pros that go there...so hope isnt quite lost yet.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2007, 03:30:21 PM »
That's really sad news.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2007, 03:35:14 PM »
Hmmm, Never heard of him.....Does he lift??

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2007, 03:48:57 PM »
For those that may not know....over the last two days...Gold's venice has been removing all of the images of ARNOLD....

First they tore down the Muscle Beach mural...then they tore down the "Mecca Of Bodybuilding" mural that contained pictures of Arnold, Haney, Lenda Murray, Corey Everson, and Dorain Yates. They also took down a similer picture that was hanging upstairs near the posing room.

I asked the front desk about this, and they told me that Arnold owns the rights to any of his pictures, and that he doesnt want them in Gold's. They also told me that he would be coming down in a few days for a "meeting," (whatever that means).

If anyone else knows more about this, (maybe Chick and offer some insight), I would love to hear about it.

You know its a sad day in bodybuilding when Arnold no longer wants to be assicoated with Gold's.


Awwww, man. What the hell is going on?  :-\

Those are extrememly motivational pictures of Arnold hanging on Gold's Gym walls. I know this has to be from Arnold's part because what gym in their right mind would take down any picture(s) of him? This really comes as a surprise for me.  :(

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2007, 04:05:55 PM »
If i was Arnold i wouldnt want to be associated with modern day bodybuilding but why would you take it out on golds

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2007, 04:28:34 PM »
If i was Arnold i wouldnt want to be associated with modern day bodybuilding but why would you take it out on golds

why??

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2007, 05:02:53 PM »
Yeah, I noticed the murals being painted over too. It's pathetic. That was THE gym- the most famous in the world. It has a legacy like no other, and now they're dismantling the history piece by piece. World won't be an option though because that's going softcore too now. I guess "The Mecca" of bodybuilding is no more...  >:(

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2007, 05:04:50 PM »
Yeah, I noticed the murals being painted over too. It's pathetic. That was THE gym- the most famous in the world. It has a legacy like no other, and now they're dismantling the history piece by piece. World won't be an option though because that's going softcore too now. I guess "The Mecca" of bodybuilding is more...  >:(

I know only of 2 "hardcore" gyms in SoCal....

Milos' and Armz's....

Definitely the end of an era.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2007, 05:04:54 PM »
Yeah, I noticed the murals being painted over too. It's pathetic. That was THE gym- the most famous in the world. It has a legacy like no other, and now they're dismantling the history piece by piece. World won't be an option though because that's going softcore too now. I guess "The Mecca" of bodybuilding is more...  >:(


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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2007, 05:12:26 PM »
Ugh....Something...or someone has to give.... We shouldnt let Gold's go down the drain without a fight...perhaps if more pro's started to come back and stick out like a sore thumb...that might help.

Jay has been stopping by here and there....maybe he can spend some more time at the Mecca...

If they continue to shit all over the legacy I feel that a boycott (for those that live in the Venice area), might be in order.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2007, 05:16:49 PM »
Don't be surprised to see more and more "phasing out" of bodybuilding pics and publicity in Gold's Gyms across the country...

Source :  http://www.goldsgym.com/golds/pressroom/press_new.php?id=29

Advertising Age: Hasta La Vista, Musclemen
Gym Chain Associated With Schwarzenegger and His Buff Brethren Wants to Overhaul Its Image

03.19.2007

NEW YORK (AdAge.com) – Gold's Gym, arguably the highest-profile name in the workout-club category, is undergoing an extreme brand makeover.
 
Once known as a musclehead mecca, Gold's is reaching for a bigger share of the $16 billion industry by marketing itself in a kinder, gentler, fashion: as a health-and-fitness center for everyone from babies to baby boomers.

"We must evolve," said Gold's Gym Senior VP-Chief Marketing Officer Joe Flanigan. "If we stay exactly where we've been, soccer moms and boomers move on and we remain a brand with nice black-and-white photographs of when Arnold [Schwarzenegger] used to work out there."

A weighty proposition
With rivals such as Bally Total Fitness and 24 Hour Fitness edging closer to its lead, Gold's is leveraging its $30 million ad budget with a print, TV, radio and internet campaign featuring the tagline "Change Your Body. Change Your Life." Executions, created by independent Riester Agency, Phoenix, include a senior citizen lifting weights and a woman in a lap pool, among others.

Without completely trashing its 41-year history and tradition – in fact, it's keeping its iconic logo of a chiseled bodybuilder with a sagging barbell – Gold's is walking a fine line. It wants to trade on its experience in the field but at the same time lose the perception, found in its own company research, that the brand is viewed as a place where bodybuilders craft their physiques and intimidate anyone else trying to work out.

"The bottom line is – and this is what we told the franchise system – the trick here is to fully leverage the expertise and authority platform we have while minimizing the musclehead/intimidating factor," Mr. Flanigan said. "We have 40 years of heritage, but I believe you can rebrand yourself."

New aesthetics
So does Ernest Lupinacci, a former creative with Wieden & Kennedy who worked on the ESPN and Nike accounts and is now the creative director of Ernest Industries, New York. "There's a distinction between your gesture and your aesthetic," he said. "Their aesthetic isn't trying to bench press a Ford minivan. Their aesthetic is physical fitness, but at one point in time, that manifested itself in bodybuilding. I would argue that in the market space, Gold's Gym has great brand equity, and what they have to do is convince people of the proficiency they have in fitness."

The health-and-fitness-center industry is, well, healthy. Between 1995 and 2005, U.S. health-club memberships rose 71% to 41.3 million, according to the International Health, Racquet & Sportsclub Association. The number of clubs that opened nationally in 2005 jumped to nearly 29,000, up 21% from 2004.

But the industry is highly fragmented. The 50 largest companies -- which include Gold's Gym, 24 Hour Fitness, Bally's Total Fitness, Lifetime Fitness, Curves and LA Fitness -- hold only about 30% of the market. Nonprofits, such as the YMCA, operate more than 5,000 of the 29,000 clubs.

Gold's had $1.2 billion in revenue last year from its 620 clubs, including 500 in the U.S. Bally Total Fitness had $1.05 billion from 361 units, and 24 Hour Fitness had $1 billion from 340 units.

No Control
An earlier hurdle for Gold's was that its advertising and marketing were also fragmented; franchisees sometimes weren't on the same page as corporate. "People were doing what they wanted. There was no control from a brand perspective," said Cody Pierce, Gold's Gym director-franchise marketing, who came onboard with Mr. Flanigan two years ago when TRT Holdings bought the franchise. "We had to step up and provide franchisees a good, solid marketing calendar with good promotions."

Gold's was also losing out on the 55-plus crowd. Health-club memberships in that demographic have increased a whopping 265% in the past 15 years, according to IHRSA. Gold's Gym membership from those 55 years and older was 7%, compared to an average of 25% overall, according to IHRSA.

To that end, Gold's has increased its alliances with various groups, including the American Diabetes Association, to associate its brand with "life-changing" causes.
 



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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2007, 05:20:24 PM »
I think he has simply become disgusted the way Golds has turned out to be the fag gym it is now..

This makes the most sense.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2007, 05:23:16 PM »
This is really a sad day.... I always thought that Gold's Venice would be immune to the changes of the rest of the company, but this doesnt appear to be the case at all.

Bodybuilding has degenerated to the point where we dont even have a flagship gym anymore.

Im at a loss for words.

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2007, 05:25:20 PM »
Arnold disowned Golds many years ago when Joe Gold started the World Gym franchise, so this comes as no surprise.

Speaking of which, I was in Worlds Gym today (Marina Del Rey)  having an arm blast with Robby Robinson and all the pics are coming down from there also. They close their doors on June 12th :'(

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2007, 05:32:57 PM »

Milos gave him some advices....told him to pull the pics to avoid any hassle from Robin Chang...

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2007, 05:35:17 PM »
We need Chick's opinion on this... where ya at??

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Re: Arnold Disowning Gold's Venice?!?
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2007, 05:40:03 PM »

I thought you liked Arnold

I do. But it's a misconception that Arnold has anything to do with this. It's Gold's Corporate (see the article a few posts back) calling the shots.

And for the record, Jerome Ferguson was doing everything he could, including spending his own money, to save that World Gym location. He knew Joe Gold for years and felt he owed it to Joe's memory to save that place. No such luck.

I guess my advice to everyone who's never trained there would be to get out to Marina del Rey before July 12th and train on the equipment Arnold and the boyz use in Pumping Iron, before it's gone for good.