New Theory re enlarged digestive apparatus

[shiftedShapes]

Much of abdominal distension in BBers comes from enlarged digestive apparatus (stomach intestines etc.).  Consuming mass quantities during bulking phases forces the digestive machinery to adapt and it does this partially through hypertrophy.  The rest of the bulk is IAF.  If you diet for a long time pre-contest you might be able to get rid of some of the IAF, but chances are the bulk of it will remain and the digestive track will remain enlarged.  A change in life-style, i.e., 1-2 years of moderate eating habbits (i.e. slightly below maintenance calories) could be enough to bring a gut down, to a tapered waist.

[The Squadfather]

maybe these IFBB pros should diet on two stalks of celery once a week on Wednesdays so they can have a 27 inch waist, 11 inch arms, 16 inch thighs and a 29 inch chest like you "shifted shapes".

[shiftedShapes]

maybe these IFBB pros should diet on two stalks of celery once a week on Wednesdays so they can have a 27 inch waist, 11 inch arms, 16 inch thighs and a 29 inch chest like you "shifted shapes".

I'd train these "pros" but I've got my hands full trying to keep the legendary kings in line, being a MAGICAL EMPEROR isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[wootwoot]

[The Squadfather]

Did you read what he said? Where did he say anything about arms chest and thighs? Just take the damn eca stack and stop whining.

hahahahahahaha, keep making excuses for being skinny.

[The Squadfather]

Im not making excuses, one day ill be bigger and better. But no fucking way will I be in constant bulking mode like you. Thats why you get so defensive everytime someone mentions small waists. Damn.

hahahahaha, yeah i know, one day you''' bulk your arms from their current 12 inches to 23, your thighs from their current 18 inches to 36 all while keeping your waist at 26, hahahaah epic delusions.

[noc]

hahahahahahaha, keep making excuses for being skinny.

whats your excuse for being the michelin mans stunt double?

[The Squadfather]

whats your excuse for being the michelin mans stunt double?

hahahaha, at least Xerxes had the balls to post a picture as skinny as he is, you're far too much of a pusssy to do the same.

[Rami]

Yeah, this is why Lance Armestrong and other cyclists have such a hug gut  , consuming 8000 cals for the Tour and during heavy training. Get over it, it is the drugs, the and internal fat accumulations in the gut due to GH and Insulin and some growth of intestines and internal organs due to IGF.

However I would agree that carb loading will bloat you, pulling extra fluids into the digestive tract as well.

Lance eats alot of fish, protein and fats during and after races so cyclist at that level don't exactly carb load like a bodybuilder getting ready for stage.

[noc]

hahahaha, at least Xerxes had the balls to post a picture as skinny as he is, you're far too much of a pusssy to do the same.

hahaha oh brother  maybe i will once ive racked up over 20,000 posts with two accounts hahaha i might even get called out by alex to post up then deny the photos are me 

how is HBK doing anyway?

[The Squadfather]

Whatever. Anyway that would look retarded on a 5'8" frame. 17 inch arms, 26inch legs and ripped abs, thats my goal.

why do you think that would look retarded? this is GETBIG.COM right?

[The Squadfather]

hahaha oh brother  maybe i will once ive racked up over 20,000 posts with two accounts hahaha i might even get called out by alex to post up then deny the photos are me 

how is HBK doing anyway?

hahahahaha, brutal avoiding the subject by talking about something else.

[The Squadfather]

Yes, it is getbig, not getdisgusting.

hahahahaha, some of you guys make me laugh at your delusions, you make it sound as if you can gain weight and all of it will go to yoru arms, legs, shoulders, chest and back and none at all will go to your waist, hahahaha.

[The Squadfather]

Sure it will be a little bigger but its not like your training your obliques all day. They wont be much bigger. The rest of the bodyparts will be bigger.

why wouldn't you want to be 260 pounds at 5'8" in reasonably good shape?

[The Squadfather]

Maybe it is because you dont realize how small your waist is under that layer of fat. Once you diet down you will realize that your waist didnt grow much (maybe even got smaller if you started as a fat kid).

these are the words of a guy who has never squatted or deadlifted heavy in his life obviously, once you get your weights in those movements up over 500 pounds each for reps let's see if your waist is still 27 inches or whatever it is.

[noc]

hahahahaha, brutal avoiding the subject by talking about something else.

i was talking about this



the other guy looks better than you and you've done cycles 

worse than billyguns hahahahah

[The Squadfather]

i was talking about this



the other guy looks better than you and you've done cycles 

worse than billyguns hahahahah

hahaha, that's not me, it just shows how desperate you are to post a picture of someone who isn't me.

[noc]

hahaha, that's not me, it just shows how desperate you are to post a picture of someone who isn't me.

hahahahhaha of course it isnt   

[shiftedShapes]

Yeah, this is why Lance Armestrong and other cyclists have such a hug gut  , consuming 8000 cals for the Tour and during heavy training. Get over it, it is the drugs, the and internal fat accumulations in the gut due to GH and Insulin and some growth of intestines and internal organs due to IGF.

However I would agree that carb loading will bloat you, pulling extra fluids into the digestive tract as well.

Lance eats alot of fish, protein and fats during and after races so cyclist at that level don't exactly carb load like a bodybuilder getting ready for stage.

lance armstrong is a good counterpoint...but id like to know how much these guys are really eating.   No way they eat 8000 cals durring the tour, also as we know they are ALL DRUGS as well

[Rami]

lance armstrong is a good counterpoint...but id like to know how much these guys are really eating.   No way they eat 8000 cals durring the tour, also as we know they are ALL DRUGS as well

Lots of fats, they are eating while riding. Lance has cheese sandwiches while on the bike for example. Just lots of regular high density food. I read lots of fast carbs don't really work that well for long time endurance, it's mainly fats and protein and carbs that are evenly distributed, I doubt they want insulin spikes.

But to each his own, so some bodybuilders have a gut, doesn't seam to hamper their placings to much...

[shiftedShapes]

Lots of fats, they are eating while riding. Lance has cheese sandwiches while on the bike for example. Just lots of regular high density food. I read lots of fast carbs don't really work that well for long time endurance, it's mainly fats and protein and carbs that are evenly distributed, I doubt they want insulin spikes.

But to each his own, so some bodybuilders have a gut, doesn't seam to hamper their placings to much...

well they are eating nutrient dense foods, that would require less digestive apparatus.  On the other hand cows eat massive quantities of nutrient impoverished grass so they need a big digestive machine to cull the quality sustenance.

I have a feeling that bulking bodybuilders are closer to cows then lance in terms of their food's nutrient density.  Perhaps thats why BBers guts tend towards the bovine

[BEAST 8692]

well they are eating nutrient dense foods, that would require less digestive apparatus.  On the other hand cows eat massive quantities of nutrient impoverished grass so they need a big digestive machine to cull the quality sustenance.

I have a feeling that bulking bodybuilders are closer to cows then lance in terms of their food's nutrient density.  Perhaps thats why BBers guts tend towards the bovine

many pro bbers from the seventies would gorge themselves on massive amounts of food off-season to bulk up, then lean down for a comp with a trim waist.

hell, serge nubret would eat 6lbs of meat in one meal, but had a very small waist.

oliva, buchanan, etc same.

of course, todays bbers have a shit load more muscle on their bodies and, whether people understand this or not, when you lift heavy ass weights (ronnieism) in rows, deads, squats, etc you are going to develop some thick abs, obliques, erectors, etc.

i don't know exactly what's causing it but i don't buy the bulking theory at all. too much evidence to refute it.

[shiftedShapes]

hell, serge nubret would eat 6lbs of meat in one meal, but had a very small waist.

MAYBE he did that for one meal, but in general he ate very moderately compared to today's bodybuilders.  I have heard he tended to eat just one filling meal a day.

[BEAST 8692]

MAYBE he did that for one meal, but in general he ate very moderately compared to today's bodybuilders.  I have heard he tended to eat just one filling meal a day.

1. you're ignoring the rest of my points.

2. my point about serge was that to eat all his calories in one massive meal would seemingly insure your theory of expanded digestive tissue.

yet he had one of the tightest and smallest waists of all time.

[SteelePegasus]

but isn't the digestive system elastic in that it adjust based on the quantity of food?

so yes, it would expand during the said buiking phase, but would quickly shrink in the diet/cutting phase